Sid wrote on Oct 1, 2007 2:46 PM:
" Yet another article on how great Hillary is as a "person" , how people perceive her, or as a politician...Yet once again not one reference to something she has ACCOMPLISHED. Nor is their again any reference to her performance as a LEADER, obviously as there isn't any. All perception and politics and zero leadership credentials. Presidential material here? Kinda gets lost in all the Hillary hoopla doesn't it? "
Devil's Advocate wrote on Oct 1, 2007 4:31 PM:
" She did pretty good with the bimbo eruptions - that took real leadership; most of 'em gave up and none of them cost the '96 election. She's pretty fierce when she not trying to be "softened." "
Sid wrote on Oct 1, 2007 6:18 PM:
" Devils Ad, you are on the same track as I am. Hillary is being "packaged" for consumer approval. Today she will be "tough" and tomorrow she will show her softer or more humurous side. The next day she will "reach out" to blacks, etc., etc. Politics is a game and both she and her husband play it very well. However, I think an experienced leader with some accomplishments, ANY accomplishments, should be president, regardless of party. What do you put on a resume? Your accomplishments and experience. What has Hillary done besides be Bill Clinton's wife (and hence ride his coattails? Nothing of significance, especially to be president. Your right, she "looked good" handling all that family trama Bill's transgressions caused. "
joe hanford says wrote on Oct 1, 2007 7:54 PM:
" Give Hillary a cape and super hero power's to market herself to the voters in the next year. Hey... I have an idea! she can have her own talk show.
Yeah! It can be called "The Hillary Show". Let me call Bill I think I am on to something here.
I'm joe hanford and that's my take.
"
from far away wrote on Oct 1, 2007 11:54 PM:
" to sid - i guess george had a ton of world experience when he ran for office. that's right he ran a baseball team.... God that really sets you up for the world stage with a ton of leadership credentials . then he was the gov. of Texas, where if i can remember he ran on the promise that he was a uniter not a divider.....boy we are really united aren't we. then of course he was out drinking it up (yeah baby, real man stuff). but he save the best for last. during Vietnam, he was stationed in texas, close to dad. and then somewhere with the background of a ship he announced MISSION ACCCOMPLISHED. that seems so long ago. REAL PRESIDENTIAL!!!!
i think that if Hillary was a man, you'all good old boys would be for him. i think it is the fact that she is a WOMAN is what upsets you more than her being bill's wife.
and i don't buy into the REP. and DEM. thing either, so don't start with that. i'm voting for the best person there and i hope she wins. "
Scott Tucker wrote on Oct 2, 2007 4:00 AM:
" Hi Sid, You and I are a lot alike. You like to go on and on about, in your view, HIllary's lack of credentials, while I go on and on about Georgie's lack of, well....skills, intellegence, prudence, judgement, brainpower...just about anything that makes a good leader. Hillary may have made her name by being Bill's wife, but Junior got his free ride from Daddy's big bucks. Now, don't go off and think that this is an endorsement of Hillary on my behalf, because it is not. Still lots of time until next year's elections. Rather, this is to point out how you (you, the person who always plays the "Bill did it (or didn't do it) too card) are not playing by your own set of rules when it comes to accountability. I hope you're having a nice transition into Fall over there. It's been cool and rainy over here. "
Devil's Advocate wrote on Oct 2, 2007 10:28 AM:
" Yeah, I haven't been satisfied with a Pres since Ronnie; there have always been these fatal flaws, whether its being unable to capture the attention of the nation, uncontrollable philandering, incredibly poor communication skills, or, as we've always seen in Hillary, amoral ambition. Not saying lots of other candidates don't have issues, too - McCain seems unhinged, Romney flip-flops as bad as Kerry, Edwards is not the brightest light on the tree, either. The only ones I haven't ruled out are the ones I don't know enough about - Obama, Thompson, and all the others that are in the very low single digits. I still haven't figured out which primaries I'm voting for with which aliases... "
Sid wrote on Oct 2, 2007 11:42 AM:
" Hello Scott & far away. So much to say yet only 200 words...Ok, my point here is nobody has said what Hillary's resume/experience is to date to help bonify her being a candidate. Both of you just helped make my point by not supplying anything here either. Your counterpoint is a Bush compairison who is not running in 2008, therefore not looking towards the future issues at hand. So you think Hillary could/should be president with even less experience than Bush or even her husband Clinton the First? If it was OK for Bush to be president with 'little" experience than it is also OK for Hillary with less? Lets think about this...To shift gears, I'm not a cool aid drinker for Bush either. But his qualifications were similar to those of Bill Clinton in their respective quests for the office. Hillary in comparison to both falls far short and that deficit is being filled with fluff like this article in questions brings to the debate. She will be packaged & wrapped like a birthday present with a ribbon on the outside but when you open the box there will be nothing inside. "
ALEJANDRO wrote on Oct 2, 2007 7:55 PM:
" I would like to know from someone knowledgable WHY Mrs. Clinton is qualified to be president. I would also like to know what her plans are to solve the problem of Iraq, Iran, and North Korea. "
from far away wrote on Oct 3, 2007 1:43 AM:
" to sid Do you really want george to run again!!!!i don't think george could have found N. Korea on the map when he first took office. thank God he surrounded himself with his fathers team, otherwise he'd still be looking for N. Korea. but i still think that its more of a "she's a woman issue." you are being sexist by implying that she will be powdered and wrapped up nice and cute with ribbons like a nice woman should be. anyway, george will be in texas soon, telling stories and still putting his silver foot in his mouth, laughing at you and me.
to Alejandro even if "someone knowledgeable" gave you 10 reasons, you find something wrong. you have this bad karma FOXISH vibe about you. as for iraq well that's another 10 yr. war MISSION ACCOMPLISHED,sir!!. n. korea is done. Iran is the problem. its been a problem since georgie told us. So, in my book that's his problem. hillary will have to do what bush didn't have the huevos to do and go after iran, hell we're next door. then the whole MIDDLE EAST will go up in smoke. us too. next question??? "
Sid wrote on Oct 3, 2007 11:09 AM:
" Jeopardy answer to what has Hillary accomplished: "What is nothing". Seriously, at least with the few bloggers here, Hillary's greatest strength is she is not GW Bush. Sure, we can compare Bill to George to Hillary, but lets focus on Hillary for a second like this article did: Not ONE Hillary accomplishment accompanies these "Warming up to Hillary" style articles. Can't our country do better than this? ----------------------"Far away", you once again are doing my thinking for me without my permission and not doing a very good job of it: I have no problem with a potential woman president. In fact, I admire female leaders of other nations such as MT, BB, IG, GM and AM and would contrast & compare any of them againsy Hillary. Your "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" bashing is also a deliberate (perhaps not by yourself-you fell for it) misuse of reality. See, the USS Abraham Lincoln and it's associated Air Wing placed that banner on the ship as THEIR extended deployment, THEIR MISSION, was ACCOMPLISHED. The banner was NOT placed there by Bush & Co. Just ask your neighbors at NAS Lemoore who were THERE and they will tell you-THEIR accomplishment is now filthy political fodder... "
Devil's Advocate wrote on Oct 3, 2007 12:20 PM:
" Hey, maybe somebody can help me out/educate me a little. Can somebody tell me why Barack Obama would make a good President? How about Fred Thompson? How about Hillary? How about Huckabee? I'm particularly interested in these, but if somebody else needs a mention, I'm all ears. If you are willing to do this, though, would you be so kind as to tell me without comparing them to other candidates or previously elected Presidents? For example, "Arnie the Govenator would make a good President because he's demonstrated the ability to work with both parties while at the same time being able stand firm against the legislature when necessary." Of course, he isn't and can't run, but I think you get my point. I'd really appreciate it. "
W.O.W. wrote on Oct 3, 2007 11:44 PM:
" Here's my answer Sid and Scott...
Hillary is smart, tough, experienced and would have the most popular and successful president on the planet as her advisor and world peace maker.
"
The Oracle says... wrote on Oct 4, 2007 12:36 PM:
" W.O.W....the only way that would happen is if Reagan came back to life. Facts are Hillary is a socialist. Her writings and beliefs prove it out. Her "Hillary care" is just one of the big indicators of her intentions. Obama....I don't thinks so. He's a cardboard poster, no substance behind the facade. The republicans are not any better off. Romney is just another Edwards...slick talker, say anything. Probably the two best viable candidates are Thompson and Guliani. By the way, don't you just love how Hillary does the fake accents to play to whatever audience shes talking to. If a conservative did that, there would be a howling outcry from the media. Big plus is that she is a divider, politically speaking. Either you love her or you cant stand her. Not good for electability "
To Far & Sid wrote on Oct 4, 2007 12:49 PM:
" To Sid , thanks for the support against peanut brains like far away. They excuse the fact that when President Bush announced Mission accomplished. He removed Suddam from power send him running into a cave. Any one in this world even the under educated will understand that it takes more than a couple of years to help reorganize a government, you don’t just leave the people hanging like what happen in Vietnam and Cambodia after we left hundreds of thousands died . Again to you all Hillary lovers remember what was going on in the White House during the nineties, and what Osama Bin Laden was doing during that error. Osama was hitting target all around the world, and even hit us twice while Bill Clinton and Hillary were have serious relationship problems. If she was a good woman Billy would of never gone out seeking for other sexual satisfaction. I can’t understand if you were the spouse of the biggest most powerful man or woman in the world how dysfunctional can you be not to make him or her happy.
MV "
Devil's Advocate wrote on Oct 4, 2007 3:14 PM:
" Bad form, MV. Whether a man is a shameless philanderer is no reflection whatsoever on his wife as to whether she is a “good woman.” Such thinking is hurtful to women whose trust has been horribly and inexcusably abused. In fact, it’s the same enabling mindset that families of other types of abusers face: “Maybe if I’d stop making him mad, my husband will stop hitting me.” “Maybe if I carried a second job, my husband wouldn’t have to do drugs to unwind from his financial stress.” “Maybe if I was a good girl, Daddy would stop touching me.” Dysfunctional would be living your life thinking you can prevent “bimbo eruptions” by being a better wife. Please take a little time to think through how you want to make your points next time. If you want to call Hillary a shrew, or that you wouldn’t want to be married to her, fine. What you actually said was terribly unkind to millions of women. "
Yaruchiban wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:40 PM:
" To: From far away
I was born and raised in San Francisco, and currently live in one of the most far, loony leftist towns in the country and I thank my lucky stars for it.
I am a man and a proud feminist and I still totally agree with Sid's original question: what has Hilary done? How does being married to a CEO make you qualified to be a CEO?
I think it's a shame that our truly experienced candidates, people who have served in military positions, the Peace corps or worked directly with underserved communities or headed legislative committees for years are all being ignored because they lack name recognition.
But I don't blame Hillary or the media really. I blame Joe and Jane Average who can quote sports stats and tell you what happened on a TV show with perfect recall but can't take the time to learn about people whose decisions will directly affect the quality of their lives and probably future generations. "
HILLARY PRESIDENT wrote on Oct 4, 2007 11:57 PM:
" HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT! HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT! HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT! Hillary Clinton is the right and only choice for U.S president to clean up this mess and turn our country around PERIOD!!! "
Scott Tucker wrote on Oct 5, 2007 5:08 AM:
" Dear Devil's Advocate, As to your response to MV, I can only agree. Thanks for writing what many of us were thinking after reading MV's comments. "
To Devils Advocate wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:01 AM:
" Sorry you were hurt by my feelings towards Hillary, I agree with you about your explanation towards kids and some woman that are being abused , but where talking about and adult with a college degree Hillary. If your comparing her to the average house wife or daddy's little girl , than it gives me even more reason not to want her in the white house. Again people like Far away and other liberals that consantly complain about Bush. How did you feel about Bush the on 9/11 and the week following , The average American forgets easily of what has happen in the past . Kind of a good thing. However it can be devasting in some areas of our goverment. Example: Bill Clinton invited Yasser Arafat to the White House, one of Osama's biggest supporters , while Osama was out there skeeming more ways to attack the United States. Real smooth willy.
MV "
The Oracle says... wrote on Oct 5, 2007 1:32 PM:
" What short memories we have.....The Clinton presidency still stands as having the most number of indicted people out of an administration. Whitewater? The Rose law form? Hillary's magical commodities money making scheme? Hillary care? And now she wants to give EVERY baby born here, 5 thousand bucks...you do the math on that one. Would all of you Hillary supporters be intellectually honest enough to admit that a lot of her positions/values are socialist in nature? She is a smart, cagey politician without a doubt. But do we really want a repeat of the Clinton admin? I cant stand her as bad as you Bush haters, hate GW, and thats the problem in her electability. There is no in-between with her. You either detest her or love her...Head to head, Guliani will win "
Devil's Advocate wrote on Oct 5, 2007 5:10 PM:
" Pouring fuel on the fire, MV. Now you are saying that women with college degrees can prevent their husbands’ infidelity by being “good women.” Imagine yourself as an abused woman with a college degree having just read what you wrote – she already feels horrible about who she is and thinks her troubles are all her fault and that NO ONE UNDERSTANDS her, then you come along with your comments and directly tell her that she SHOULD feel horrible and deserves abuse because she’s “educated” enough to avoid it. Or take it from another angle – a woman getting beat who doesn’t even have a GED reads what you wrote and understands it to mean that she’s not smart enough to know she deserves better than that. Some of your comments about Hillary and history are insightful, but I hesitate to agree with anything you have to say because your lack of wisdom is exceeded only by your lack of compassion. You just paint with too broad a brush, man. "
Yaruchiban wrote on Oct 5, 2007 5:53 PM:
" Wow, Hillary For President, with mindless boosters like you, I guess she doesn't need to have any actual experience or take any principled stances. Just being a woman with a famous husband is enough after Bush's screw-ups huh? "
To Devils Advocate wrote on Oct 5, 2007 7:35 PM:
" I don't know who you are , but I have read your troubled counter stories defending Hillary. I think you are the one that is or has been abused. Again I'm talking about Hillary NOT the average housewife. Do you speak or listen to english. I don't want an average in the White House, What I said was if she was stupid enough to put up with Bill all those years , AND she had plenty of money and people around her to support her , unlike many abused wifes'. Then she is to stupid to run the greatest Country in the World. Don't try to undermine what I wrote , your to liberal to understand or ever will be regardless of what u think or say,
Mv "
A Democrat not for Hillary wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:47 PM:
" Hi Sid, I didn't even need to read your posts to know your views on this one and should I say anything more about myself? The moniker says it all... Go John Edwards, the clean money man. Take care Sid! Alejandro, don't bother, your opinion is de minimus, as in of minimum importance, trifling. "
Jay wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:58 PM:
" No faster way to start an argument than talking about politics or religion... But I must say anyone who thinks Hillary should be the next President of the US, is a blind and ignorant! She has done NOTHING outside of being the First Lady, and "stand by her (cheating) man" throughout his career. She is so socialist, she is basically a communist... We need to get away from the people who have been in charge over the past twenty years, from both parties. We need some new, uncorrupted people in the White House. Hillary was the Queen, now she wants to be the King... It absolutely makes me ill, that people think she is the best person in this whole country, to be President. My motto for the next Presidential election is... "Anyone but Hillary!!!" "
ALEJANDRO wrote on Oct 6, 2007 2:26 AM:
" Back on topic. Steve and Cokie Roberts said: "In fact, Clinton is wearing her scars like battle ribbons. "Obviously, we made a lot of mistakes" she conceded on NBC's "Meet the Press," describing her failed battle for health care in the 1990s. And on ABC's "This Week" she added, "I think that what is so uniquely American about the American experience is that, you know, you get knocked down, you get back." ...WHAT PRETENTIOUSNESS! Why do I believe that? #1. Hillary was ONLY the first lady PRETENDING to be a legitimate politician . . . what gave her the right to have a health care plan foisted on the American public? #2. Again she says she was "knocked down (and) you get back"...? It's obvious that she STILL thinks she knows what's best after being a first lady and a junior senator from NYS. Money works in politics, and she is keeping her word: "you get back." Yep, she's getting back . . . AT US! Thanks for the warning, Steve and Cokie. "
Devil's Advocate wrote on Oct 6, 2007 5:41 PM:
" MV, my counters were not to defend Hillary; I’ve always found her arrogant and amorally ambitious. As for this hitting close to home: yep, sure does, almost every woman I’ve every loved has been the victim of abuse, and in the past I have been a perpetrator of emotional abuse. (I’m grateful to God for an upright woman that wouldn’t put up with it, and some men I respect teach me to be a real man.) So I’m what you might call an expert. You’ve now presented 3 scenarios: the 1st is that ALL women bear responsibility for their husbands infidelity, the 2nd is that DEGREED women do, and now the 3rd that only Hillary must live up to the standard of being a “good woman” to keep her man faithful since you said “Again I'm talking about Hillary NOT the average housewife.” Which is just your hatred of her overwhelming rational thought and excusing your thoughtlessness. BTW, Yo hablo englis pocio. And I don’t understand why you character failings demonstrate liberality on my part. It’s my fault, really: Maybe if I was less liberal MV would less irrational… "
Sid wrote on Oct 6, 2007 6:40 PM:
" Still, not ONE example of Hillary's accomplishments of the type favorable towards her being a viable presidential candidate and this blog has been up for nearly a week! Could this little fact actually mean something? Contrast: Rudy Guliani was a DA in a large population center and had to deal with the goods (cops) and others (criminals) in the justice system-bottom line REAL PEOPLE where the rubber meets the road. He worked that into Mayor of NYC, a very liberal town where he is a republican. Why? Those liberals/democratic voters saw something they LIKED over his democratic challenger. (Same with Romney in Mass). Obvioiusly set a great leadership example during 9-11. His foreigh policy views are SPOT ON in the terror world we live in (Remember he gave that Saudi Sheik his check back after 9-11? No nonsense there). No, I'm not yet decided myself, my point is NOBODY HERE said anything remotely like the above for Rudy in describing Hillary. You who think she is great, ask yourself to yourself, "What has she DONE to make me want to vote for her?" Then if you have one (or more) things, list them here. Take another week if neded... "
Evil Spotter wrote on Oct 7, 2007 2:32 PM:
" It's all smoke and mirrors. These polititions have more power then you might think. Both sides are leading us down a road to a one world political system. They were smart enough to have both sides covered (republican and democrat) in their goal. We are one major cotastrophy away from being silenced as a nation. Oh, I know, I'm just a wacky conspiracy theorist. "
The Oracle says... wrote on Oct 8, 2007 3:34 AM:
" Evil Spotter, your not so far off the mark. As a conservative, I can't believe the lack of leadership my party is showing. You are on the mark as to both parties being "vanilla." I see my party unwilling to take stands on immigration, health care, etc. I believe that it is truly time for a 3rd party to come into play, at least on the republican side. If nothing else, it would force the politicians to REPRESENT their constituency. To not do so would be at their and the main party's peril, as voters would be drained off to the 3rd party candidate. Win or lose, at least we would be represented. And to the Republican/local party chairs reading this...SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP!!!, because if you don't, I won't vote, and this from a Reagan conservative. "
Sid wrote on Oct 8, 2007 12:28 PM:
" Oracle, I don't think a 3rd party is a good idea; As you mention, it can and will split the vote. Recall 1992: Clinton 43%, Bush 37%, Perot 19%. (Teddy Roosevelt also split the vote like this in the election around 1912 or so with his "Bull Moose" Party). Republican & Independent voters liked Perots "maverick" real guy approach to issues over Bush who was tied to a faultering economy very effectively by both the dems and Perot. Democrats then (and now) vote more party line regaredless of the qualifications of their candidate; Bill was/is very good at LOOKING good via focus groups, poll analysis and thusly saying what many want to hear. Him DOING things are a different issue... A third party would also require a massive infrastructure similar to that already in place for both the dems and republicans. What to do? FIX/participate in the party that most likely reflects your values. I agree that republicans have shown miserable leadership on immigration for starters-do the governments JOB in securing the borders-simple. Yet they don't. Notice how democrats in Congress get ZERO grief (relatively speaking) for not securing our borders. Its politics to them, not their job description. "
Mrs. D wrote on Oct 8, 2007 4:45 PM:
" After 200+ years of men running this country, we need a change and deserve better! Vote for Hillary in '08!!!!! "
LATE NIGHT OWL wrote on Oct 10, 2007 1:02 AM:
" How come nobody mentions Ron Paul here? He might be in the Republican party, but he sure is independent. Not a true conservative at heart, though. Conservatives better get it together or all will be lost. Remember how Bill Clinton won the Presidency? Without a clear majority of voters, too! The parties were so fractured that a 3rd candidate sucked all of the conservative undecided voters away and guess who won! Looks like Hillary will win the same way too as she has no demonstrable talent, is unlikable, and has a distinct ‘I wanna be President too' aura about her. Looks like a winner to me. "
Jack wrote on Oct 10, 2007 6:06 PM:
" It's pretty amusing that so many people have already made up their minds about Hillary without knowing a thing about her. All of the anti-Hillary postings have demonstrated that fact- that not a single one of these people has even bothered to do their research about her before they've posted. Since when is a First Lady not a politician? Name a single time a President has won the Oval Office without the campaigning of their wife . . . First Ladies are politicians, too. And when speaking of accomplishments? She's a two term Senator, so obviously the people of NY like her. As far as her being "unlikeable?" She's leading the polls- both Democratic and Republican . . . obviously someone likes her. She was considered one of the top attornerys in the country for several years. I'm not sure who I want to win, but I at least won't be casting an ignorant vote. Do your research, then decide. "
OMG wrote on Oct 10, 2007 9:51 PM:
" Just what we need, a woman as president. this country is falling apart. "
LADY MARMALADE wrote on Oct 10, 2007 9:52 PM:
" she's lucky, bill is Foxy! "
W.O.W. wrote on Oct 10, 2007 10:30 PM:
" To JACK:
I took time to read Bill Clinton's daily dairy "My Life" as well as Hillary's. I was surprised that under his regime we had no deficit a large surplus and peace overall with the exception of loss of troops in Somali.
Hillary showed her resolve and maturity in dealing with Bill's indiscretons. She handled it as a truly great woman (leader) would be expected.
No other candidates out there, Republicans or Democrats are even close, in my opinion.
Hillary gets my vote. Get used to a woman leader. This country needs a woman's touch and approach for a change. "
Sailor wrote on Oct 10, 2007 11:27 PM:
" All I want to add is, for the past 20 years 2 families have run the country. It's time to move on and give someone else the chance to fail. "
LATE NIGHT OWL wrote on Oct 11, 2007 3:59 AM:
" Some seriously misguided bloggers here say: "First Ladies are politicians, too" and "Hillary showed her resolve and maturity in dealing with Bill's indiscretions." What a load of crapola . . . This is going to be a Presidential election jihad . . . the MOAB (Mother of All Busters). And don't forget, W.O.W. is really "MOM" upside-down! "
Sid wrote on Oct 11, 2007 9:14 PM:
" Hello Jack, welcome to the blog...OK here it comes: Did you even read the earlier blog entries? It asks (and I do) just WHAT has Hillary ACCOMPLISHED. Your entry furthers the point of "likeability" with both dems and republicans (I seriouisly doubt the latter). Just WHO considers her one of the top lawyers in the nation? What case did she help decide? Her name was not on the ballot for first lady and as you say that is politics...What about LEADERSHIP more and touchy-feely politics less?====WOW, Hillary showed "maturity" in dealing with her philandering husband? First, you may have an argument with that point. (Also, that is not leadership either. Consider, did her hanging onto Bill allow her to continue to hang onto his coattails up to the present time? Not very liberated is it?) Second, is that ALL you would rate her on to be president? Again, no problem with a woman president but in your zeal to have one, are you backing the WRONG ONE? She may actually set back the breaking the glass ceiling by years. "
to jack wrote on Oct 12, 2007 12:44 AM:
" i'm with you and W.O.W. both parties are getting to look like the other. like before you had vanilla and strawberry, now its vanilla and if you strip away the strawberry coat you have vanilla. and the fact that most people here want PROOF of Hillary's accomplishments proves the point that women have long complained about, that women Always have to prove themselves twice where as a man only was to prove himself once. GO HILLARY I"M BEHIND YOU!!!!! "
SAD ATTEMPT at LEVITY wrote on Oct 12, 2007 5:11 PM:
" Her campaign ad should be "Size DOES Matter." And with that 'behind' us, let's move on.org. "
w.o.w. wrote on Oct 12, 2007 7:30 PM:
" To: Late Night Owl:
You are a clever devil!!!!! "
The Oracle Says... wrote on Oct 13, 2007 12:13 PM:
" ...Are you kidding me? We don't know Hillary? We haven't done our homework? HINT..We LIVED through 8 YEARS of Hillary and her controversies. Shall I have to state themn order? I dont think there is enough room to number the controversies, alledged crimes, etc that she is associated with. Dont know Hillary? Now thats laughable "
Roy T. wrote on Oct 16, 2007 10:00 PM:
" Don't be fooled for a minute...the only reason Hillary "stood by her man" during the Lewinsky fling was because she had political ambitions and knew that if she dumped "Slick Willy" her ticket to the White House wouldn't pan out. If you elect Hillary for Prez , you will basically be electing Bill for another tour in the White House (she has already stated that he would serve to "heal our nation's reputation" if she is elected...what's he gonna do? Go sleep with the wives of all the world's leaders??
Ask yourself this...if she didn't have Clinton as her last name would you be considering her to be our nation's leader?? "
happy cow wrote on Oct 23, 2007 2:33 AM:
" HELLary is not the one! She will say what ever she needs to get a vote. Guiliani will clean up with an iron fist. He speaks his mind and does not flip flop. He cleaned up New York and is a great bussiness man and thats what the United States needs to get out of dept. The sad thing is Hillary is going to be the next Leader of the Free World. "
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