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Is global warming real?

Editor: The "political" cartoon ridiculing those of us (Neanderthals) who do not believe anthropologists' and mathematicians' assertions that there is "global warming" (Ooooooh noooo!), is ridiculous in itself.

(Incidentally, glaciers melt and glaciers grow, regardless of your experience over the last 40-something years).

I presume that your apparent assertion (based on the fact that you published this insulting piece of nonsense) is that those of us who insist on concrete proof, rather than the mathematical assertions of people that none of us know, somehow makes us stupid "throwbacks."

Climatologists from all over the world are not supporting the "global warming" theory. They are not saying it is not possible, only that is not supportable based on the existing evidence.

I am sure that a little research by a thinking unbiased person would yield the information that this is true.

I am happy those who believe this nonsense had no influence in the 1940s and 1950s. If they had, we would now have 100 million flatulent cows in the San Joaquin Valley trying to warm us up.

Apparently, The Sentinel requires no proof of "global warming," but only the published findings of mathematicians and anthropologists.

Imagine this: Four hundred noted DNA experts (including two Nobel Prize winners) and 400 heart transplant experts (including one Nobel Prize winner) assert that the crust of the Earth is getting thinner.

And based on that assertion, a mathematical project based on the current rate of degradation shows that in the next 52 years, unless we stop driving vehicles weighing more than 6,100 pounds, we will have destroyed the Earth's crust and will burn to death in the magma. Sound stupid?

If not, let me make it simple. Do you believe that you should visit a heart transplant expert to deliver your baby?

Do you believe you should visit your automobile mechanic to have your shirts laundered?

Do you believe you should visit your accountant to get a latte grande? Do you believe you should count on your city councilman or county supervisor to provide you with electricity? Do you believe in the curse of the "Bambino?"

Well, if you believe those things, you should believe there is global warming.

Here is another thing you should believe: If you wish hard enough and believe Peter Pan is real, you can fly.

Don Eiland

Hanford

(Nov. 1,2007)

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The following are comments from the readers. In no way do they represent the views of the Hanford Sentinel

Mag wrote on Nov 1, 2007 1:15 PM:

" So do you not believe in recycling either? Did you see Gore's movie, An Inconvenient Truth? We are becoming hogs of our natural resources. Letting your garden hose or your kitchen faucet run endlessly is the stupidest thing in the world and wastes water. Not recycling your cardboard, cans, plastics, and papers fills up the landfills, permanently. I find some of your analogies absolutely ridiculous. Did you take your "pissy pill" before you wrote this? "

The Anti Right Winger wrote on Nov 1, 2007 3:08 PM:

" Don could you please name a few of these "climatologists from all over the world" you write about? Here is what NASA has to say about it ;"Evidence for Global Warming Recent observations of warming support the theory that greenhouse gases are warming the world. Over the last century, the planet has experienced the largest increase in surface temperature in 1,300 years. The average surface temperature of the Earth rose 0.6 to 0.9 degrees Celsius (1.08°F to 1.62°F) between 1906 and 2006, and the rate of temperature increase nearly doubled in the last 50 years. Worldwide measurements of sea level show a rise of about 0.17 meters (0.56 feet) during the twentieth century. The world’s glaciers have steadily receded, and Arctic sea ice extent has steadily shrunk by 2.7 percent per decade since 1978." - Source material NASA Earth Observatory website. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Library/GlobalWarming/global_warming_update3.html With all due respect Mr. Eiland, I find their research a bit more credible than the extreme right wing rantings of corporate mercenaries. "

Don, Deniacus Moronicus? wrote on Nov 1, 2007 11:42 PM:

" Mr. Eliand, I liked the cartoon you mention SO much, I've saved it as a "keeper". Your letter to the editor shows that the ' "Denicus Moronicus" IS known for its narrow and simple mind. Fed off bad science. I think I'll tape your letter to the bottom of the cartoon as a "keeper" too. "

Scott Tucker wrote on Nov 2, 2007 7:28 AM:

" "Thinking" and "unbiased"? Mr. Eiland, thanks for the chuckles. "

ALEJANDRO wrote on Nov 2, 2007 4:09 PM:

" Regardless of the rationales presented worldwide, we all know that the earth's climate changes periodically for a variety of natural reasons. One thing man is not very good at: acting on anticipated changes to decrease death, displacement, and human suffering. Call it a preemptive strike against the bad effects of mother nature. Sure, we should decrease our human generated global warming contribution as much as possible but it is foolish to think that we can change billions of years of earth science and astrophysics. We need to do more, do it broadly, and think outside the box. Just don't tell me that Al Gore invented the Internet again! "

to the non believers wrote on Nov 5, 2007 1:25 AM:

" call someone in Georgia and ask them if the problem they have where they are almost out of water if they think its all just a big joke. I guess that's why the federal gov't is mediating a solution to what may become a War For Water. Let's see the Southeast is drying up, California is going up in flames and places in South America are flooded so much that people are drowning. Most people think its a problem that will be solved just in the nick of time or doesn't exist at all, and of course the punch line is to invoke Al Gore's name into it. Last year for the first time in many years the Kings River had water in it. I remember in the 60's it was always full. I'll betcha that Georgia is only the start, Al Gore or not. "

ALEJANDRO wrote on Nov 5, 2007 2:59 PM:

" I believe I said: "We need to do more, do it broadly, and think outside the box." We puny humans did not change the rotation of the Earth or increase the amount of solar radiation. The Earth and cosmos changes in cycles and when its good and ready. The cycles are continuous and ever dynamic. And Al Gore's boisterous claim that HE invented the Internet should have been titled: "An Inconvenient Lie." Goes to the credibility of his premise, is the point. "

Joe Friday wrote on Nov 5, 2007 3:23 PM:

" Seems to me the cartoon in the paper was right on the mark as to those who continue to deny we have a global problem. The facts are that use of fossil fuels to power our homes, industry, transportation etc., is simply not sustainable. Rather than defending the status quo. we might all be better served by starting a discussion on the future of energy in our country. Solar energy, wind, nuclear, hydrogen will all be part of the solution. As a nation, we have spent a trillion dollars and untold amounts of blood fighting in a country to help secure the free flow of oil to world markets. Might we have eliminated our need to import oil had we spent this same amount of money on developing energy alternatives? "

some people just can't get over Al Gore wrote on Nov 6, 2007 12:18 AM:

" again, some people just seem to love Al. Its Al this and Al that. look at the blog above Joe Friday's. I think that guy has a secret crush on Al. If there are "cycles" that the earth goes through, that's fine but I think that the last time the "EARTH" went through one of these "cycles" there were maybe 1,000 people on this entire planet. And I think that his idea of thinking outside the box is to keep laughing about Al's comment about the Internet, which is about as old as me. "

Policyhawk wrote on Nov 6, 2007 5:46 AM:

" Look - If the earth is warming, it is not man made. CO2 levels have been rising but the last 8 years our temp has not gone up. Why? If the so called consenses out there can predict this doom and gloom, why were we headed for another ice age back in 1979? No heres one better, if they can predict so well, where are the hurricanes they predicted for last year and this year. Didn't Al Gores picture predict more and more powerful stormes? "

Captain C wrote on Nov 6, 2007 10:14 AM:

" Uhhh....I believe the Kings River runs just about every year. I am not sure where one of the commenters gets his information but the Kigs River is a vital supply of water to the area and runs just about every year. I also believe Georgias problem is a lack of poor planning and managment of resources. Here is California there are large coalitions of water purveyors both municipal and agricultural that are establish to protect water supplies. The Georgia situation only highlights the need for California to build surface water storage to capture wet year water when it is available. "

Jeremy T wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:34 AM:

" I think this guy has tried selling ice to eskimos. All the ridiculous and petty analogies posted in this aritcle just make clear that this man feels like less of one because of a political cartoon. There is not one specific reference in this whole article. Everything stated is essencially hearsay because the author has failed to site one reference or fact to back up any of his tangent ramblings. If we would make it harder for people to post incoherant blogs there would be a lot less misguided idiots. A percentage of the population will read this article and conclude that this is truth soley because it is so opinionated and they also like to put others down by acting like their ideas are better or "more right" than others. Some of these people are the same ones that believe their religion is right and yours is dumb. I guess you can't argue with that, huh? It's points and people like these that make freedom of speech an abomination. "

So Jeremy T. wrote on Nov 7, 2007 12:06 AM:

" According to your beliefs about Freedom Of Speech, it is better for the US to turn into an Islamic state to shut not only me up but those whose brains still are active enough to question. Yes Jeremy, the Founding Fathers would be real happy with you. "

MV wrote on Nov 7, 2007 10:57 AM:

" Al Gore and his followers , thanks to all the dummies in this Country Al Gore’s bank account keeps on growing buying his silly movies. These far left wingers still believe that Gore should have been President. Al Gore kept this Country in suspense for over ten days with his recount of the Democratic Counties in Florida, They recounted most of the Counties of his choice several times. He still cries about it today. I think if he was man enough at the time of the election he would of thrown the towel in and quit his crying. The only thing shrinking around the world today is Al Gore’s brain along with many others. Are we still melting around the world since the Ice Age or did that quit at one time or another. An Inconvenient Truth is that the dumber your friends are the more fun you will have and make money off them. "

no wrote on Nov 7, 2007 2:07 PM:

" The record high temp. for today is 85 degrees back in 1930. Todays high is going to be about 78 degrees. This summer was cooler than last summer. What I want to know, Is anyone going to do something about global cooling. I for one am. I am going to drive my oversized SUV all day and just let it run in the driveway, turn on all of my lights and burn trash in my back yard. I am doing my part. Go black, not green before we all freeze to death. "

no wrote on Nov 7, 2007 2:09 PM:

" Al Gore drives an SUV also. He also has an electric bill of more than $1000 every month. He is not the conservative you think he is. He did get the dummies to pay to go see his propaganda. "

I can't get over how you guys love Al wrote on Nov 8, 2007 12:41 AM:

" If its not Gore's this, it's Gore's that. I'm in Hanford every now and then and I saw with my own eyes the Kings River dry. Don't know about the Kigs River. Now maybe they ran the water at night, but the river was dry during the day in summer and in the winter. With $100 a barrel for oil, I hope you think more about your kids at Christmas time than filling up your Oversized SUV at $4 bucks a gallon. Or is that something else that Gore has invented. I could care less about old presidents and old vice presidents (just smile and wave sir) but some of you have this fixation with them (him) that borders on weird. Strange that in its last year of existence, the bush administration is admitting that GLOBAL WARMING EXIST, but since that wasn't heard on FOX , I'm sure many of you will say next that George was misquoted by the liberal media or its more Gore dis - information. Remember, he who laughs last, laughs best. But as for me, I'm buying a boat and moving to the desert, just in case. Better safe than sorry. "

The Oracle says... wrote on Nov 8, 2007 6:03 AM:

" The last hysteria was "global cooling" as noted years past in Time magazine. Did I see Al Gores movie? Hahaha You mean "When Orson Welles attacks?" He's a fraud...He and John Edwards are true hypocrites when it comes to this hysteria....Carbon Offsets? That means if you have mega bucks you can merely pay your way forward. All of this is just typical liberal hysteria, meant to pander to their base. "

Dwight Schrute wrote on Nov 8, 2007 11:34 AM:

" When did a scientic phenomenon become just a political issue? It always seems like bloggers are incapable of carrying an intelligent discussion without taking political sides. Not everything is red and blue. "

Jeremy T wrote on Nov 8, 2007 2:04 PM:

" The Founding Fathers, which is now a proper noun apparently, are not of any concern to me. I was just using a slight bit of opinion myself, apparently you shooting back at my counterpoints to your factless opinionated ramblings angered you. Cromagnon man has trouble controlling his temper? This is a huge archeological breakthrough. Go read a bible encino man. Post another blog when you find a point you have some knowledge of and you can back up. Until then keep the clan safe and what out for the next ice age, since global warming is such an obsene concept. "

ALEJANDRO wrote on Nov 8, 2007 3:45 PM:

" In my humble opinion, the old saw: "Remember, he who laughs last, laughs best" is highly overrated. "

my did i hit gold wrote on Nov 8, 2007 11:29 PM:

" the Founding Fathers are of no concern to you?? my,my. What else do you not like? And yes,the Founding Fathers can be used as a proper noun. SO? can you say the same for "obsene concept" or "what out" If it bothers you that people write back with THEIR opinion, then maybe you should try somewhere else where no one writes back. Oh, and Bible is capitalized Neanderthal Man. "

The Anti Right Winger wrote on Nov 9, 2007 6:16 PM:

" Did it every occur to some of the folks blogging here that NASA and Al Gore are in agreement on this one? Won't find that bit of information on FOX News will you? Oh what the heck lets just ignore those pesky pinko scientists and have Rush Limbaugh tell us what we should believe. "

Al Gore wrote on Nov 10, 2007 1:56 AM:

" Dwight, don't put a stop too all the attention I get here. THEY LOVE ME!!! Seriously, it's all about the Blue and Red.Oh, and the non existence of the way we are not killing the Earth. The glaciers aren't melting, just going thru "cycles", if the surface temp. of the Earth is rising its not mans fault. its the cow poop. The fact that we are having droughts in the Southeast and in Southern Calif. have more to do with nobody planning ahead for these things. That's mans fault. So, as you can see our blogs are full of scientific facts, astrophysics (bet you George can't say that word) and bunches of other stuff you wouldn't understand. Our Earth is fine. What party do you belong to?? "

to in my humble opinion wrote on Nov 10, 2007 2:18 AM:

" And you see nothing OLD about the way almost everything you write makes reference to Clinton or Gore. Please. I used that saying once and you are all over it. Or was that another one of your jokes?? I stand behind what I called you once sir, "a parrot." "

Evil Spotter wrote on Nov 10, 2007 9:25 AM:

" Global warming is a scam. The United States puts out an estimated 45% to 50% of the 'man made' CO2 world wide (China will soon be the largest producer). Even by liberal standards, the total of ALL nations combined is ONLY about 1/8% to 1/4% of what nature itself produces. The goal of all these scare tactics is to introduce a World Court that can and will impose fines and probably a tax on the United States. So long U.S. soverignty. Steal from the rich and give to the poor. It will probably work as well as 'oil for food' or other such programs. "

Martin Devine wrote on Nov 11, 2007 8:06 AM:

" Those of you who "BUY" into the "THEORY" of global warming are exactly what many of you assert that Mr. Eiland is...moronic. Global warming is merely a theory latched onto by demagogue politicians to scare you into voting and buying green. A new market has been created, a new cause celebre has been whipped into a fervor. I assume those of you who believe in global warming lock stock and barrel also believe Al Gore's assertion that he created the internet? Why would someone choose to watch a movie about a mere theory, produced by a known liar and BELIEVE it? "

talking about theories wrote on Nov 11, 2007 4:47 PM:

" So then the theory that some politicians have used as scare tactics for US to buy into the idea that we can only be safe under a Republican are false???? Why would anyone listen to people rant and rave how WE need to start another war over there so We don't have to fight them over here and the FBI has issued a warning that we may get hit in malls over the holidays. Where is the "Theory" about feeling safer?? "

ALEJANDRO wrote on Nov 11, 2007 8:19 PM:

" History, by definition, IS old! "News" is 'new' and much more current, tis true. And 'Arrrrch...Polly want a cracker!' "

Pollution wrote on Nov 12, 2007 9:36 AM:

" Who cares if global warming is real or fake, What we need to do is reduce the pollution. The valley air is horrible. I see both republicans and democrats getting sick with asthma because the air is horrid here. Just my two cents. "

Jay wrote on Nov 12, 2007 10:34 PM:

" It's just a theory, not a fact!!! As with Evolution, Global Warming is solely a theory! There are many experts who claim it is not happening, but because Hollywood states it is everything is blamed on it. Take this statement for example, "Last year for the first time in many years the Kings River had water in it. I remember in the 60's it was always full." This is just one ignorant argument Global Warming exist. The Kings River had water in it year around pre-60's, simply because Pine Flat Dam didn't exist, the climate has nothing to do with the Kings River! In recent years the Kings River has flooded and ruined hundreds of acres of farmland due to too much rain, just ask anyone who lives in Corcoran. The climate has always changed, and always will.... now that's a fact, and it has nothing to do with Global Warming. Geez, How could the Dust Bowl have occurred prior to Global Warming??? "

The Anti Right Winger wrote on Nov 13, 2007 2:36 PM:

" E=MC2 is Einstein's theory. Does anyone want to argue that one? Perhaps some of the folks blogging could tell us why it is a good idea to keep burning fossil fuels? Are you saying that NASA, who now states this "theory" of global warming is supported by substantial evidence, is wrong? What peer reviewed scientific study are you basing that belief on? Was the study you site as evidence for your belief that global warming is not happening the same as that recently sited by Rush Limbaugh and paid for by Exxon? "

Jay wrote on Nov 13, 2007 6:14 PM:

" Why is it, that Liberals always use name calling and deem anyone who does not accept the spoon fed information Hollywood delivers as "Right Wingers, Rush Limbaugh or Bill ORielly" cronies? Thinking outside the box is wise, and there is nothing wrong with being objective and not just a blind sheep follower. I am not saying global warming is fabricated, I am merely stating it is not to blame for every single weather event that occurs. As with evolution, there are those of you who will take global warming as gospel because a few scientist theorize it. What about those who claim global warming isnt occurring? (Oh, that's right theyre on Limbaugh's payroll.) I totally agree it does us all good to recycle and conserve, however I dont take every Michael Moore type of bias documentary as factual. There may be some issues, but things like the Kings River being dry through the winter isnt one of them! "

Jeff wrote on Nov 15, 2007 12:03 PM:

" This article is ridiculous and I am a "Global Warming Skeptic" and by that I mean I don't agree that human made Co2 is the main cause. I do think that the Earth is warming but I tend to believe that this is a cycle that occurs. Look at what 'The Anti Right Winger' says "Over the last century, the planet has experienced the largest increase in surface temperature in 1,300 years." Doesn't this statement just prove that this has happened before? Also the problem in Georgia is not a lack of water as Captain C put it. Their problem is that their water is going to other sources. Hey "The Anti Right Winger" if you want some lists on climatologists who don't buy Al Gores theory look here http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming and here http://www.iceagenow.com/Climatologists_Who_Disagree.htm. And please stop making jokes about Al Gore inventing the internet. This is a very old and played out joke I don't think you're making anyone laugh with this one. "

In the Know wrote on Nov 15, 2007 3:03 PM:

" In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, “Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,” Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264). The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other "minor greenhouse gases." As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2. "




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