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Local Democrats wrestle between Clinton, Obama

Most people agree that in this presidential election, the political climate favors the Democrats.

Americans remain dissatisfied with the war in Iraq, the economy is going into recession -- a trend that almost always hurts the incumbent party in the White House -- and unfavorable ratings for President Bush remain high.

Still, local Democrats face a tough Feb. 5 choice between current frontrunners Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and New York Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Each candidate has negatives that could undermine the Democrats' assumed advantage.

For Obama, there is the question of whether his experience sufficiently prepares him for the job.

According to published reports, he has two years in the U.S. Senate, seven years in the Illinois Senate, one loss in a primary election for the U.S. House of Representatives, a keynote address at a Democratic National Convention and two best-selling books.

"(The experience question) is probably going to be the thing that hurts him the most," said Stephen Graham, a political science instructor at West Hills College Lemoore.

But paradoxically, it could also help him, if people identify him as untainted by the negatives associated with Washington, D.C.

"The Democratic choice is going to boil down to whether people are willing to go with the hope of Obama or the experience of Hillary (Clinton)," said Mark Trezza, a political science professor at Fresno City College and chairman of the Kings County Democratic central committee.

Also playing into Obama's favor is that he is an articulate, compelling speaker.

Carole Farris, Hanford resident and vice chair of the Democratic committee, heard Obama speak at the state Democratic convention and was impressed.

"The energy when he entered the room, it was just off the charts. He's dynamic," Farris said.

There is the also the race factor. Obama would be the first major party black presidential nominee in U.S. history.

That will help Obama in states like South Carolina with large black populations, but many voters indicate that race will not be a deciding consideration.

For Hillary Clinton, the biggest obstacle may be her high negative ratings with the American public.

A Gallup poll in October showed Clinton with the highest unfavorable rating among any presidential candidate, Republican or Democrat -- 44 percent.

Among conservatives, the dislike sometimes rises to the level of hatred.

Some believe that was an issue in Iowa, where Clinton lost to Obama despite a fundraising edge and a powerhouse organization.

"I don't know if people are willing to forget some of the negatives of the Clinton years," said Graham.

But many Democrats think Clinton's years in the White House make her more qualified than Obama.

"She was involved in presidential work, although not directly, but she has had some contact," said Simon Lakritz, longtime Hanford resident.

Lakritz believes Clinton is the more electable candidate.

Farris, on the other hand, thinks Obama is more likely to win because the Republicans will "fight bitterly" against Hillary, "America is ready for a change" and "there are a lot of people who like Obama on both sides of the fence."

As for Clinton, nobody's really sure how the fact that she is a woman will play out in the general election.

Lakritz thinks it's a "possible weakness."

"There's a lot of men out there who cannot stand to be told by a woman what to do," he said.

Trezza thinks that it could play in Clinton's favor at the last moment in November, when women see that they have the opportunity to put the first woman ever in the White House.

"That pretty much cuts across ideological lines," Trezza said.

Trezza sees Clinton as a more "formidable" candidate than Obama, and he agrees that Democrats have the presumptive advantage given the political climate.

But he won't count out the Republicans just yet.

"If (the issue) is national security, the default advantage is Republican," he said, adding that if there is an attack during the campaign, it would likely play in Republicans' favor.

"This will be a close race. That's what makes it interesting. There's no clear front-runner on both sides," Trezza said.

The reporter can be reached at 583-2432.

(Jan. 21, 2008)

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The following are comments from the readers. In no way do they represent the views of the Hanford Sentinel

SJT wrote on Jan 21, 2008 3:04 PM:

" Interesting, indeed. Will be glad when it's over and we can begin the healing. "

Thoughtful Insight? wrote on Jan 21, 2008 5:52 PM:

" It is a shame that the local political science instructor could not be a little more insightful about the current climate of the election. This article provides an teaching opportunity, in which the reader could benefit from his expertise and insight. Unfortunately, all the instructor could muster was that Obama's lack of experience could hurt his chances of winning the election. I would like to see articles (and quotes) used to really inform the community on more profound political issues. "

Joe Friday wrote on Jan 21, 2008 7:23 PM:

" Hey Seth did John Edwards drop out of the race? There are more than two candidates and a number of local Democrats are supporting Senator Edwards so why is he left out of this story? He is the only candidate who takes no special interest or Political Action Committee money. Seems like that is worth a story in itself. It is clearly one the Clinton and Obama camps don't like to talk about! "

corn-nuts wrote on Jan 22, 2008 10:33 AM:

" I would think John Edwards would be mentioned. And I also think Valley Democrats would favor him seeing that he used to be a Republican and is a nice moderate contender. "

JUSTICE wrote on Jan 23, 2008 1:32 PM:

" ITS FUNNY WERE ALL GOING TO VOTE AND TO ELECT A PRESIDENT REGARDLESS OF PARTY OR WHO IT IS WHEN THERE ARE ISSUES THAT WILL NOT BE ADDRESSED TIL AFTER A PRESIDENT HAS BEEN ELECTED. SOME PRETTY IMPORTANT ISSUES, THAT NO ONE IS WILLING TO ADDRESS. AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE BECOMING MORE LIKE SHEEP AND THROWING SOME OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT FREEDOMS TO THE WOLVES..... "

Prejudice? wrote on Jan 23, 2008 6:46 PM:

" Is it racism that blacks will vote for a black?
Is it racism that whites will vote for a white? "

Mag wrote on Jan 24, 2008 8:12 AM:

" To Prejudice: why would you say that? Obama is only half black. From the shows I have seen, blacks are no more likely to vote for him "because he's black." Remember the idea thrown out months ago, " is he black enough?" And it's not true that whites will only vote for whites. What century are you living in? I was really intending to vote for Obama until that bickerfest the other night between he and Hillary. Now I'm leaning towards Edwards. He DID let Letterman mess up his hair; he's a good sport! "

Con Carne wrote on Jan 24, 2008 8:56 AM:

" Isn't there such a thing as term limits in this country? By the looks of things lately, it looks like Bill not Hill is running. And whats up with Obama? He all of a sudden uses Ebonics when addressing a black audience? That's a little disingenius, don't you think? Then on the other side you have Rudy Guliani, AKA Miss Clairol. "

Bobb wrote on Jan 24, 2008 3:55 PM:

" To Joe Friday--the Democratic Party and Media are doing the same thing to Edwards that the Republican Party and Fox did to Ron Paul. He beat two of their CHOSEN CHILDREN in Iowa, but was excluded from the Fox debates. He may not be the best candidate, but with his showing he should at least have a chance to be heard Nationaly. Maybe it is because he was an Independent before turning Republican so that he would have a chance in the National Debates. The Green,American Independent,Peace,etc. Parties are always excluded by the Media. It's no wonder that the Internet has become the news source of CHOICE. "

Robert wrote on Jan 25, 2008 9:32 AM:

" Barack Obama delivered his powerful speech at the Federal Plaza in Chicago October 2, 2002 against the US beginning war in Iraq while later that same month Hillary Clinton voted for the authorization to begin US military action in Iraq. Once US troops were actually in Iraq and fighting a war, of course, it would be irresponsible for Obama to be against funding the troops. The key is that Barack Obama had the judgment to see the dumbness of the war in October 2002 and clearly said so. Hillary Clinton did not and voted to start it.

Bill and Hillary Clinton's tactic of trying to paint Obama's war position as "a fairy tale" or as "inconsistent" is merely "Clinton politics" and clearly demonstrates why America badly needs the enormous breath of fresh air Barack Obama provides. At one time Senator Kerry from Nebraska referred to the Clinton's as "clever liars" several years before President Bill Clinton told America: "I did not have sex with that woman!" or as Jay Leno quipped, "He didn't have sex with her, she had it with him!"
"

O. G. wrote on Jan 25, 2008 9:58 AM:

" I once thought Ron Paul was a crackpot. Now he seems to be the shining star.
Clinton promises free health care for all. Translation: You'll be taxed to the hilt and the care you'll get will be third (world) rate. But when Clinton has to face the hard issues, her laugh will be of great comfort to her supporters.
Barak Obama is great at pointing out the problems with America but he's not showing viable solutions.
I predict he'll take Hawaii.
Edwards has a plan to end poverty, but Jesus said "The poor you have with you always." Edwards should read his Bible. McCain isn't a conservative, Romney is a Cameleon, Huckabee is a fiscal liberal, Giuliani is a Democrat in sheeps clothing. Vote Ron Paul


"

Con Carne wrote on Jan 25, 2008 3:23 PM:

" Democrats! Here's a thought, what happens if the war ends prior to Nov 5? Then who do we vote for? "

O. G. wrote on Jan 28, 2008 1:15 PM:

" The latest headlines about Ted (CHAPPAQUIDDICK) Kennedy backing Obama is certainly the last thing I expected from a candidate whose entire campaign is built around CHANGE. Teddy (CHAPPAQUIDDICK) Kennedy is one of the most entrenched, fixed, logjams in the entire Democratic party - exactly the opposite of change - and it has me wondering how Obama is going to profess himself as the candidate of change. Change has got to consist of more than just color.
"

Great - Kennedy endorses Obama wrote on Jan 28, 2008 9:42 PM:

" I can not think of anything worse for a campaign but to have Edward Kennedy endorse Obama - he will be gone in a month. "

Evil Spotter wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:09 AM:

" Could the recent wave of ultra liberal politicians (Ted) and organizations (MoveOn) endorsements of Obama be a cooridinated effort to paint him as too extreem? A friend recently brought this up, and I think he has a good point. These "endorsers" have got to know that their endorsements of Obama can only hurt him with lost votes from "middle of the road" voters in the long run. When "their man" Hillary gets the Democratic nod, it'll be no sweat off their noses. They will support Hillary and no one will even remember their previous endorsements. Don't believe me? What percentage of average voters can remember which Democrat Ted Kennedy supported in the 2004 Democratic Primary races? I know I couldn't tell you (and I'm not looking for anyone to google it either). I think it's something to consider. "

As a Democrat...I worry because I am not going wrote on Feb 4, 2008 3:22 AM:

" to endorse or vote for a candidate who is not going to make a concentrated effort to knock-out the clear-path that illegal's have come to enjoy in this country.I find it very discerning when each of Dem's doa soft-shoe on the issue.I want to hear they WILL enforce the laws and not endorse more guest-worker programs that only create benefits for big business and expand an already out-of-control glut of uneducated person's who may also gain legal status apart from the already exisiting pathway procedures available to non-citizens,THEY WILLby-passing those who have waited in line faithfully and MOST IMPORTANTLY lawfully.I want to hear more from the canidates.Partly too,ILLEGAL-immigrants are to blame for the economy and are a factor which has contributed to the deteriorating wage levels, job opportunities, and labor conditions for U.S. workers, thank big business always looking for cheap labor by "insourcing illegal's" and their tax-incentive powerball "outsourcing" too to third-world countries.What a mess Bush and his crooked-administration have left for the American people.They raped and pilaged the nation and now the stock-market is being played out to suck 401K's dry too.I don't know if we can win for losing this next year? "




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