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Hanford native wins national award, will be congratulated by President Bush

A woman born and raised in Hanford was recently named Teacher of the Year for the United States Department of Defense, and is now in the nation's capitol to be personally congratulated by President George W. Bush. Cathleen Marziali, who began her teaching career in the Central Valley, currently teaches at Naples Elementary School in Italy. In October, Marziali was notified that -- after having been Teacher of the Year for Department of Defense Education Activity's Mediterranean district -- she was selected as the 2008 Teacher of the Year for the entire department.

Marziali graduated from Hanford High School in 1979 -- long after the moment that inspired her to teach. Marziali's third grade teacher at Jefferson School established a connection with her, taking special interest beyond her responsibility. And that connection is still what Marziali aims for with each of her students.

Marziali attended University of California at Los Angeles, where she earned her Bachelor of Arts in Psychology, and Fresno Pacific University, where she earned her Master's in Educational Administration.

While in college, Marziali did a summer abroad in Italy, where she met her husband, Stefano. Though she had studied Italian previously, she said she really learned it after meeting Stefano, because he didn't speak any English at the time.

The couple lived in the Central Valley as Marziali taught at Huron Elementary School, Lemoore's Meadow Lane School, Laton Elementary School, was a learning director in Hanford Elementary School District and a curriculum consultant with Kings County Office of Education. During that time, they had two children, Mitchell and Jennifer.

For about 16 years, Marziali worked with students learning English. Although most of the bilingual students she taught were originally Spanish speakers, the Marzialis raised in their home a different set of bilingual children, who learned English and Italian from birth. They subscribed to Italian TV channels and spoke Italian.

"When you walked in our house, you were in Italy," Marziali said last week during a brief visit in Hanford.

One night in 2003, nearly eight years after she had applied, Marziali was offered a job in Italy, with the Department of Defense Education Activity.

"It was kind of our dream come true," Marziali said of the job offer.

Marziali now teaches Spanish to each of Naples Elementary's kindergarten and first grade students, whom she said are a bit different than Kings County's students. She said she will never forget just before her first Spring Vacation in Naples, when she asked her students what they would be doing for their recess from school. Marziali recalled sitting in awe as the students told her they would be traveling to England, Rome and Paris.

Marziali added that the school environment on the Naples Navy base is safe and "kind of a teacher heaven."

"The military wants to make sure that the quality of life for people serving our country is high," Marziali said.

But nice environment or not, Marziali's supervisor, school Principal Richard Alix, believed her to be "radiating passion for the teaching profession," and nominated her for Teacher of the Year for the Mediterranean District.

"Cathy's standards-driven approach to teaching provides for rigor and relevance as she develops programs for the children she teaches," Alix said in an e-mail to The Sentinel. "Her focus on collegiality and her willingness to help whenever and wherever needed, serves as a beacon and gives positive direction to school-wide efforts that help every student achieve their highest potential."

Marziali was officially recognized as Teacher of the Year for DODEA in November at the Pentagon, and traveled back to Washington D.C. on Monday for a visit to the Smithsonian and the White House. Last week, she was in town visiting with her parents.

In spite of the honor, Marziali remains humble and said that it is still that "passion" for making that connection with children that drives her love of teaching. And she realizes now the opportunity that comes with the leadership markings of being a nationally-recognized Teacher of the Year.

"It's not about being recognized," Marziali said. "It's about what can you do to make a positive impact."

The reporter can be reached at 583-2424.

(April 22, 2008)

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The following are comments from the readers. In no way do they represent the views of the Hanford Sentinel

Paul wrote on Apr 22, 2008 2:19 PM:

" heres an example of a couple who decided to speak Italian in their house and as she says "when you walked in our house, you were in Italy." They do this and they get rewarded by the president.
I would bet most of you money all kinds of racist commments would be made if this was a Latino. Much less would they be up for an award by the president. And all this takes place in a state that will soon have a majority Latino population. HA!

"

G.S. wrote on Apr 22, 2008 9:17 PM:

" Good job Cathy !! "

jenn wrote on Apr 23, 2008 8:30 AM:

" my mommy is amazing [:

"

barb wrote on Apr 23, 2008 10:59 AM:

" Congratulations Cathy! "

Hi Marzialis wrote on Apr 23, 2008 10:17 PM:

" We sure miss the job you did here in the county. You were a joy to be around and I miss teaching your daughter. Hi Jenn

"

to Paul wrote on Apr 24, 2008 10:49 AM:

" I disagree with what you stated above, she taught her children both English and Italian, regardless what language is their first language her children and her husband learned the language of the country they are living in. Myself, as well as many in the ocmmunity, state, and country are frustrated by the fact that many people come to our country, take advantage of all of our countries amenities but yet refuse to learn or teach their own children English. It makes it even more frustrating that in terms of finding a job, many times an experienced person is overlooked due to not being able to speak Spanish, regardless of having a degree or even military training, I can go on and on but I wanted to make it clear that this couple made it a point to speak both languages. "

Not For It in any way shape or form . . . . . . wrote on Apr 24, 2008 12:03 PM:

" Congratulations Cathy, good job.
Paul - love how you stayed on topic and point here with your very first comment. You are however right the legal taxpayers in this state are about to give it to the Illegal immigrants by making a mass exodus to Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, and Montana and let the rest of you support the illegal immigrants of course as we leave your share of cost will certainly go up. But from your comments that's what you want anyway, so good luck and hope you find many more freebies for the illegals in your quest for segregation. Why don't you just make a proclamation and let Mexico have California back then the Federal Government won't be saddled with supplying funding for your schools or anything else for that matter. Then it truly will be a win win situation. In fact continue the quest and before long it will be the United States of Mexico. "

Paul wrote on Apr 24, 2008 1:10 PM:

" to Paul first let me congratulate Cathleen Marziali on her award. Second, I am bilingual. I have taught both of my kids English first and then their native language. We are both teachers. My daughter teaches at the elementary level and I at the post graduate level. And many times we have tried this out. We speak Spanish, and we are amazed at the reaction that we get from people. Most sound like YOU and THINK that we are not trying to learn the language or that I didn't teach or want to teach my kids English, or worst of all that my daughter doesn't want to learn the language. End of story. "

to Paul wrote on Apr 24, 2008 5:21 PM:

" It's unfortunate that you took what I wrote to pertain to you which I was not intending to do. I think its great that you speak both languages, but many don't do this and that is the frustrating part, maybe you should take the chip off your shoulder and stop putting words in people's mouth's, no one said anything about you or your mom. "

Riley wrote on Apr 24, 2008 8:58 PM:

" Nice to see a well written and informative article making a great connection between Cathy, always an outstanding person, and her hometown. I am sorry that the connection was not made complete by stating the names of her parents whom she was visiting. Her parents, Dave and Sue Clardy, are long time residents and servants of the community. Many readers would have made that connection that have otherwise missed an important part of Cathy's life in Hanford.
"

jenn wrote on Apr 25, 2008 9:09 AM:

" since some people focus more on finding a way to negatively shoot people down instead of realizing what the main point of this article was, i guess i should enlighten you with what it was really about. my mom did not get awarded for having bilingual kids, nor did she get awarded for having Italian be the main language in her household, the reason she was recognized in this article about having a bilingual family is because, thats a really great gift.. me being her daughter, i am so thankful that i had parents that gave me to option to learn another language, and the way they chose to do it, was hands down, the best way.
But the award that she has received is not because she raised her kids in a bilingual environment, it's because she is an amazing teacher.
so before you start pointing fingers, passing judgments, and jumping to conclusions.. make sure you're on the right path with, logical reasons.

"

Congrats wrote on Apr 25, 2008 12:12 PM:

" Congratulations. But if it were me I would nix the meeting Bush thing. "

Alan G. wrote on Apr 25, 2008 2:50 PM:

" Riley, you made a great point. I suspected it was Cathy Clardy. Good for her. I went to school with her brother and I can remember when she and Stefano had opened the European-style laundromat on 10th Ave many years ago. "

Acosta wrote on Apr 26, 2008 8:41 PM:

" Congratulations...and it could not be awarded to a finer educator. Cathy, you continue to be an inspirational example of what you wish for your two (beautiful and talented) children and those that you have taught and now teach. May you continue to shine in whatever country or position you take on! God bless! "

to Jen wrote on Apr 27, 2008 4:01 PM:

" I don't think anyone was criticizing your mom but thanks for "enlightening" us, I think it goes without saying why she earned her degree so maybe it should just be left with that, I don't see how what was written by any of the bloggers to be negative toward your mom, and I was a bit confused why you should be so upset nothing negative was even mentioned of your mom..but its cute reminds me of my little one when she would stand up to me, small children are so cute like that. "

Paul wrote on Apr 28, 2008 3:10 PM:

" If its frustrating to you that you don't speak two languages then that sounds like a personal problem to me. I HAD TO LEARN ENGLISH back in the 50's in the central valley. I got spanked by Anglo teachers, so that now when I get the chance to I SPEAK SPANISH, I DO, just to get people like you mad. "

Not For It anyway shape or form wrote on Apr 29, 2008 12:29 AM:

" To Paul: Buddy calm down it wasn't any of the Anglo's on here who were wacking you cause you didn't speak english. I have sympathy for you I too was struck by an Italian Teacher in typing class for the mistakes I made, but it sure made me a better typist. Perhaps if we would have had a Spanish Teacher with the same technique, I might speak spanish. I am not frustrated because I can't speak spanish that's the least of my worries. However, even to this day my knuckles can hurt like hell. You are the one who described yourself as being intelligent and a scholar which means you teach others. Do you pass along this bittnerness toward Anglo's (as you said) you seem to have (by the way the term is Caucasian now)
throughout your childhood and into adult life as a member of Higher Education. Does higher education really just mean you keep your books on the top shelf, never did understand that term. Do you have to climb a ladder to get higher education? Just kidding Paul, losen your kneck tie before you hurt yourself. "

Not For It anyway shape or form wrote on Apr 29, 2008 12:32 AM:

" Can someone please pray tell explain to me how we got on the subject of anyone's Momma on here? I haven't heard anyone and I better not hear anyone make a derogatory remark against anyone's momma in this blog? I'm confused it must be all that higher education stuff rubbing off on me. Now quit talking about anyone's momma
Aright! "

Everyday Hero wrote on Apr 29, 2008 2:40 PM:

" Congrats, when your with Bush (Jr) remind him over 4,000 of my brothers have died. Then ask him if he has thanked there spouse/ parents/ siblings for what they have done for this fine country. You keep up the good work teaching english overseas "

Jeff wrote on Apr 29, 2008 3:12 PM:

" And now to get back on topic: CONGRATULATIONS for a job well done Cathy! Or should I say, "Sehr gut gemacht"? "

Lilly Munster wrote on Apr 30, 2008 8:21 AM:

" I was wondering who was Cathleen Marziali. Now that I seen Clardy. I know. Very happy for you. You continue the good work. Sounds like you have a wonderful daughter..Jenn... that loves you much. Take care and may you be blessed with a healthy life. "

Paul wrote on Apr 30, 2008 2:44 PM:

" To not for it
Some people can just sit back and laugh about things and say "Man You Should Be Happy." That's how people that have either never had or never seen anything past Hanford. I am not bitter. The spankings that I got at the hands of my teachers that were not of color made me stronger and prouder of my parents place of birth. I speak Spanish because I choose to. And I laugh when I can see that it makes SOME people mad.
And you are right I do teach, and I seek my revenge on some students by telling them that if they write their term papers in Spanish they will get a higher grade. Many nights I laugh myself silly. Talk about what goes around comes around. Mrs. Johnson must be rolling in her grave. Oh, I NEVER said I was a scholar, THAT I will leave to you. "

To Paul wrote on Apr 30, 2008 5:22 PM:

" I would like to know what school you teach at so I may ensure my child doesn't have you, I can see that you have much hate towards someone who isn't hispanic and if you take these comments so harshly, which I didn't really see any comments to be insulting just someone saying they wish people would learn the language of the country they live in, I can only imagine what your poor students must endure. You are the prime example of reverse discrimination, using your past as justification for revenge, to me its cowardly. "

All Against It wrote on May 1, 2008 4:28 AM:

" To Paul: as your daughter provides you with grandchildren keep this one truth in mind as you are around them: Prejudice begets Prejudice, they learn by watching what and how we relate with others in society. If you failed your daughter don't fail the next generation too with your anger and torment over what happened to you and hopefully will never happen to them.
It's time for you to let all that go and be a standup guy which I know is what you really want to be and treat everyone equally so they will to, in society we often get back what we project. So in closing I hope you know I tell you this for not only your grandchildren but for you as well. Anger and hate can eat your insides out if you let it fester, fester and continue to fester. Before long you lose track of what you hate so therefore you hate everything and everybody. Buenos Dias e
Via Con Dios mi Amigo! "

To All For It wrote on May 1, 2008 2:52 PM:

" Prejudice begets Prejudice. Gee. Isn't that not only intelligent but original. Write that line to the Students not of color that put the hangmans noose on the tree in Jenna. Or will you tell them to "let it go." Like I said its easy to sit back and sigh when you have never experienced life outside Hanford. I am just matching YOUR hostility maybe not in this blog but in others.

"I would rather the future teachers could teach about the legal deportatons of illegal immigrants that ocurred at the insistance of legal citizens happening in 2008-2009."

And you want me to temper MY comments. I sleep very good at night, and I promise you more FESTERS in YOU than me.

Are you tired of seeing the Mexican Flag flown in the U.S.? in society we often get back what we project.

My, My aren't you the crusader for warmth and forgiveness.

Oh, I AM NOT YOUR BUDDY!!!!! And for your SIMPLE sentence you get a C. Ask a Latino why. "

Med Time wrote on May 1, 2008 6:37 PM:

" Paul, I think it would be better to lead by example, you have so many different subjects that you are bringing up its kinda amusing, you can actually feel your anger through your comment but your comments make no sense because you are all over the place. I mean its a story about a lady getting an award, so your either jealous or mental-enjoy your late nights laughing at children sicko. "

Scott Tucker wrote on May 2, 2008 2:19 AM:

" "Anger and hate can eat your insides out if you let it fester, fester and continue to fester. Before long you lose track of what you hate so therefore you hate everything and everybody."

Ah, the irony is too great.

All for the Fence wrote on 15Apr2008: "Sheez still have to teach the History Teacher, no wonder Switzerland always votes for neutrality, they don't know any difference. Must be boring when you live in a world of ignorance is bliss ay Scott? Seems to be your choice of asylum as late. Perhaps next you can try Scottland and commute all the wee Irish to your see all crystal ball you seem to have. Kill the world with kindness and hope to survive what a tactic." Why such hate towards the Swiss?

All For the Fence wrote on 22Apr2008: "It's time we got paid back for all those millions and billions of dollars spent on illegal immigrants for education, health care, welfare, free immunizations, free breakfast, free lunch, free child care, free pre-school, free milk, free formula, free, free, free need I go on?" Do you really hate innocent children so much that you would deny them essentials? "

Scott Tucker wrote on May 2, 2008 2:20 AM:

" All For It wrote on Apr 11, 2008: "[You] just belittle and make a mockery of another persons thoughts." Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

All For The Troops wrote on Apr 12, 2008: "[...] because until you ware their shoes for a year you don't deserve the right to speak for them. Don't go to the Freedom of Speech thing either because the freedom to talk about war belongs to those willing to risk all they have upto and including the ultimate sacrifice. Not some snotty nosed little brat born with a silver spoon in his/her mouth and somehow thinks they are gonn save society from war and strife. You haven't even had the experience of being under fire, don't give me that holier than though speack...We are a nation of spoiled brats [...]"

All of this from the person who warns us about anger and hate. Once again I say: Kettle, meet Pot. Pot, meet Kettle. "

YODA wrote on May 2, 2008 8:21 PM:

" Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. "

ALEJANDRO wrote on May 4, 2008 5:20 PM:

" A great illustration of what you call "anger and hate," Scott.

I believe this is called 'role model education?'

You saved these remarks and let them fester until you found a venue to display them,
topic be damned. Why is that?

I guess what got you so riled was the attack on your new country of allegiance, Switzerland. Or perhaps that President Bush gave this award to another educator from Hanford who now lives and teaches in a faraway country. And it was an award that celebrates this teacher's skill AND her patriotism to boot!

I most sincerely thank you for this lesson learned.

"

Scott Tucker wrote on May 5, 2008 1:12 AM:

" Alejandro, You are very welcome. If you need more schoolin', just let me know. "

ALL FOR IT - ALL FOR THE TROOPS - ALL FOR AMERICA - wrote on May 5, 2008 8:59 AM:

" TO SCOTT TUCKER - I'd suggest like your buddy SJT and Get a Clue if you wish to quote me don't take things out of context, quote the entire blog. You're awfully political for a person who says he doesn't like politics. Haven't met a History Teacher yet who didn't think his version was the only correct one. But they don't print everything in the books Scott and those of us with common sense who have lived life understand there are many times more than one version just like in all books. You have your cripted don't live outside the box of the Vietnam experience and I have the, I was there and I know when an author is blowing wind up your toot version. That version won't ever be in a book because it is the truth and most Americans like yourself like fiction and can't handle the truth.
You sure were quiet on here for a while, guess our last blogging left you speechless.
Heads up keep your eye on Isreal and Iran something is coming, it's all over the net. Sy the way did you hear Isreal hit Syria last year? "

ALL FOR IT - ALL FOR THE TROOPS - ALL FOR AMERICA - wrote on May 5, 2008 9:11 AM:

" TO SCOTT TUCKER - Alejandro and I are gonna get together and come up with an award just for you so you won't feel left out. It will be for "Achievement in teaching Swiss Children instead of American Children" and it will end with Amen. Happy teaching, mold those minds by the time you get through with them they'll be ready for a good fight. Oh I've been meaning to ask you do you hold President Bush responsible for the terrorist network in the Phillipines as well? Because if you do they were in place when I was there in 1970 long before President Bush held any public office. The Phillipino's called them Huck's back then. Oh one other, what do you think the response should be to Iraqi's who chop off military and civilian people's heads should we pay them a bounty, Mr. Liberal? Just wonder if you have a line that they could cross or would you just keep moving it to the left to get away. Oh that's right you are Neutral, isn't that the gear in your car that doesn't do anything? What a coincidence. "

Scott Tucker wrote on May 5, 2008 10:54 AM:

" AFI, When did I ever say that I do not like politics? If you haven't noticed on this blog, I follow politics with nothing but the greatest interest. Politics is one of the few areas where, with our votes, we can affect change. What's not to like about that? You must not have met many history teachers, if you feel that all history teachers believe that there is only one way to tell and interpret a story. I know and understand the version you are telling very well (sure, unlike you, I wasn't there as Vietnam occured before I was born), but my role is to make sure that people are aware that your version is not the only version of the story. Your's is only one of many. And again, you disregard any and all experiences that are not somehow directly related to your life experiences. If you haven't already found this out about life, let me tell you: EVERYONE has valid life experiences. Reason for my silence: I was away on a week-long class trip with little time to sit at a computer. An award from you and Alejandro: No thanks, teaching is an award in itself. "

ALL FOR THE TROOPS AND NOT FOR THE POOP wrote on May 5, 2008 2:27 PM:

" TO SCOTT TUCKER - Scott all I am saying is the author of most of the so called facts about Vietnam were written by correspondants who were for the most part shown what the government wanted them to see. Nothing more and nothing less, and it was one of the largest propoganda wars for that reason. Anytime any actual action was filmed it was broadcast during the dinner hour back in the states. Do you also teach that in your classes? Because that and Hanoi Jane's sitting on a AA battery in Hanoi is the way the Vietnam war was lost. How anyone can stand to hear her name is beyond me, she was and is a traitor and will one day pay the price for her misdeeds during that conflict. Do you also report the hatred of the National Guard who gunned down the students on Kent State Campus who now are the battling Hero Battalions in iraq? Do you report about the massive torture and killing the VC performed on our american soldiers,airmen,marines and coast guard of course you don't. War is hell and should be portrayed that way. "

ALL FOR THE TROOPS AND NOT FOR THE POOP wrote on May 5, 2008 2:33 PM:

" TO SCOTT TUCKER - so in you are implying my version, the truth is somehow replaced by the propaganda written in books then I feel sorry for you and your students because there is a large injustice being performed in the school system. Do you teach how many american rich kids got defirmants and didn't have to fight because of their money, how the teacher population blossomed when it was learned a teach defirmant was like a license guarantee to never have to fight in a time of war. Did you report that many americans chose to leave their citizenship behind and cross the borders into Canada and Mexico to avoid the draft and fight for their country. Only to receive a slap on the wrist and amnesty for their cowardess in a time of war? Of course you aren't, that would be the truth about Vietnam. The last thing you want to do is teach anything that resembles truth. Do you show them news reels of the Killing Fields when we pulled out of Vietnam? Do you teach them the slaughter that occured in Iraq when the americans pulled out after taking Kuwait? "

ALL FOR THE TROOPS AND NOT FOR THE POOP wrote on May 5, 2008 2:40 PM:

" TO SCOTT TUCKER - the difference/defferance in printing the truth about Vietnam has made me many times question the accuracy of the Civil War the French American War the Spanish American War, WW1 and WW2 the war to end all wars well that wasn't the truth now was it? So please don't try and convince me that somehow you know the truth and only the truth when you admit you weren't even born yet. Has it ever occured to you that maybe the Vietnam War never existed it was a big ploy to kill african americans at an alarming rate, ask the blacks how real Vietnam was Scott they and the Hispanic/Latino crowd lost more lives as your forefathers were escaping service of any kind to our great nation. The same will be reported about you and your generation in this current War. Escuse me but weren't you the one who suggested Korea and Vietnam were not wars that they were Police Actions. Then why didn't they send the Police to fight them then? Why did it take 58,479 MIA or KIA's to fight Vietnam if it wasn't a war? "

ALL FOR THE TROOPS AND NOT FOR THE POOP wrote on May 5, 2008 2:47 PM:

" TO SCOTT TUCKER - my suggestion isn't that you don't enjoy teaching history, I just think for the benefit of your students you should live some before you consider yourself an expert on the subject. Don't you ever try and discredit what I lived and know to be true you arrogant little brat. You have proven to me that knowledge of a subject is not a prerequisite to teach it. If you can talk the talk and walk the walk your a certified teacher. But then if it is our history which you are teaching which you never admit to doing then they don't have anything to compare it to like I do. Like the truth and how it happened. The great art the Grapes of Wrath was a life experience do you wish to discredit that to because it was based on fact and opinion? Your egotistical hallmark is that equal only to Adolph Hitler. I am convinced you are a product of someone's LSD trip in the 1970's culture and you have inherited their twisted idieologies and life style. I guess the Hippie Movement is alive and well. "

ALL FOR THE TROOPS AND NOT FOR THE POOP wrote on May 5, 2008 2:48 PM:

" TO SCOTT TUCKER - by the by the Confederacy in Switzerland came about due to a large conflict don't know if you would categorize it as a war or a Police Action though. So much for being neutral? "

Scott Tucker wrote on May 6, 2008 2:07 AM:

" AFI, Do I teach about Media subjectivity and propaganda in my class? YES. Do I teach about dissenting opinions in my class? YES. Do I teach about the Kent State shootings (which, btw marked its 38th anniversary on Sunday)? YES. Do I teach about draft dodgers? YES. Do I teach about the Killing Fields? YES. In fact, all of the things you mentioned are topics of discussion in my classes. You see, I try to provide my students with all possible information and aspects regarding any given topic, so that that they can view issues from all sides. In this way, they can develop critical thinking skills to question sources, investigate subjects, and, in short, learn. You see, I wasn't a soldier in Vietnam and obviously do not have the same experiences regarding that war that you have. However, I have read, attended classes, spoken to Vets, listened to the opinions of people like yourself to learn about something, that, because I was born after the fact, cannot have experienced directly. Do I question your opinion about the 30 Years War? Perhaps. But do I deem it invalid, because you weren't personally alive to experience it? No. "

Scott Tucker wrote on May 6, 2008 2:09 AM:

" AFI, I am glad to hear that you have developed the skill of approaching your sources critically. If only everyone were able to develop such a skill. I never claimed to know the truth about anything, especially when it comes to history, because as you just demonstrated in your comments above, there is no ONE truth about anything. Historical "truths" vary depending context and on who is telling the story. Civil War historians from the South have undoubtedly a different truth to tell than historians from the North.

You suggest that I "live some" before I consider myself an expert on a subject. Please, AFI, do tell us in your opinion, what "living some" entails? Relative to you, I may be young, but trust me, I have been around the block a few times. I have life experiences that you will never have and vice versa. Like I wrote above, everyone has valid life experiences, and you should not discount them because they don't live up to your definition of "living some." And as for discrediting your life experiences, that is something that I have never done. I may question your opinions, but never your biography. "

Scott Tucker wrote on May 6, 2008 2:10 AM:

" AFI, And as far as the arrogant little brat comment is concerned, I thought you subscribed to the philosophy that anger and hate can eat out our insides. Subscription cancelled so soon? And I am surprised that Jakie K. even let this comment find the light of day on this forum: "Your egotistical hallmark is that equal only to Adolph Hitler." Because I do not agree with your viewpoints on certain issues, point out the irony of your hypocrisy, and question policies that our governement follows, you think it is OK to equate me with Adolf Hitler, a horrible dictator responsible for the deaths of millions. And calling my parents drug users is remarkably smooth. Very nice conduct on your behalf. Since the original topic here was about an award, perhaps we can award you with Mr. Congeniality.

And as far as Swiss history and neutrality are concerned, I will use your logic: You weren't around when the Eidgenossen made their oath, nor did you fight in the Battle of Marignano, so you cannot possibly know anything about it. "

Jeff wrote on May 6, 2008 7:54 AM:

" As someone who has worn a uniform in defense of this country, whose family has actually worn a "uniform" in defense of this country in every conflict or war since before the United States even became a country, who grew up in Department of Defense schools, and who grew up bilingual (German), I'm going to suggest again that we remember what this article is about and cut out the personal commentary. Do that in person, face-to-face, over a cup of coffee or in some other venue! Wow, imagine that, face-to-face in a civilized manner! We might actually get something accomplished that way. AGAIN, CATHY CONGRATULATIONS! I always thought the quality of my DOD education was superior to that stateside. "

ALL FOR THE TROOPS BUT NOT THE POOP wrote on May 6, 2008 9:16 AM:

" TO SCOTT TUCKER - But you totally glossed over the atrocities and torture aspect of my questions. If you give them every angle to learn by why was such an important part of the Vietnam War left out? Do you teach them about the animal traps the Viet Cong prepared for the American Soldiers and how they were mamed and killed by them. You are so against water boarding, I would have thought surely you would be against those tactics as well, but they should still be taught to give them an over all look at the big picture in the war. In case you were to ignorant to get it, I was comparing your ego to Adolph Hitler it is you who filled in the blanks about him, not I. As for your birth right, I just call them as I see them and that was the attitude of the dropped out culture who couldn't handle the truth in the 60's so I figured with your attitude you must have been the end result. Hippies, LSD it's all part of that history too Scott. You being an expert should know all. "

ALL FOR THE TROOPS BUT NOT THE POOP wrote on May 6, 2008 9:32 AM:

" TO SCOTT TUCKER - How do you teach the students about draft dodgers? That they were the true hero of the Vietnam War? What courage they showed to abandon their responsibilities to turn their backs on friends and family to save their own knecks. Each and everyone of them had friends who died in Vietnam, but did they die for them or the grunt next to them in Vietnam? That is the question young Scott and I do know the answer, it was that brother next to them in Vietnam they gave their life for and no one else. But just maybe if the coward hadn't ran to Canada he could have prevented his friends death, has any one of them ever thought of that equation? I doubt it very seriously, 58,479 of my brothers and sisters put their lives on the line and sacrificed all, that is the truth and that is what you should be teaching. But in their memory of course they thought their blood purchased freedom for another nation, did it, no the american people wouldn't see it through. Don't make the same mistake twice! "

Alan G. wrote on May 6, 2008 9:50 AM:

" And all of this has to do with the original subject how? Find a new battleground guys, you do a great disservice to the original article and the recipient of the award. "




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