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Watchdog Report: Too Much?

When he was appointed last February as Hanford's legal counsel, attorney Robert Dowd swore he wouldn't bill the city more than $250,000 a year -- no matter how busy he might get.

Dowd, a personal injury and business litigation lawyer, went so far as to say that if he reached that cap in a month, he wouldn't get paid a penny for the rest of the year.

This was the sales pitch he made when he stood before an audience of residents on March 29, 2007, explaining how his contract could be a money-saving proposal for taxpayers because of the limit.

And the people nodded, including the city council members who had hired him on that condition.

One year has since passed.




It turns out Dowd's law firm, Griswold, LaSalle, Cobb, Dowd & Gin of Hanford, has billed the city more than it originally said it would bill.

In fact, the numbers have gone far beyond.

During the contract period between Feb. 21, 2007, and Feb. 21, 2008, the firm has billed -- and the city has paid -- a total of $381,328 in legal fees for 2,342 hours of work claimed, city records show.

That's a figure more than twice the amount billed during the last three years that Kahn, Soares & Conway of Hanford was the city's legal counsel. The number of lawyer and paralegal hours claimed in a year also nearly tripled since Dowd's firm took over the job last February, city records show.

In fact, the amount is higher than the city has ever paid before.

'Everybody walked away from the table happy.'

The attorneys at Dowd's law firm's charge an hourly rate ranging from $115 to $215, with Dowd charging the highest. When his firm took over last year, Dowd called his $215-an-hour fee a "gift" to the city.

But city documents show Hanford's legal representation cost skyrocketed when Dowd's law firm took over.

Hanford was previously represented by attorney Michael Noland with Kahn, Soares & Conway for 18 years until the fall of 2006.

According to the city, a retainer agreement with Noland paid his firm $6,000 a month for routine legal matters and $165 an hour for special matters, such as litigation and real estate matters.

Between 2003-2006, the city spent an average of $159,304 a year for legal representation by Noland.

Dowd's law firm is far more expensive.

Over the past year, Dowd's law firm charged the city an average of $31,865 a month, while Noland charged the city $13,274 a month during the last three years of his city representation.

Dowd's law firm billed the city of Hanford for 2,342 hours in lawyer and paralegal services between February 2007 and February 2008. That represents 2.6 times the hours seen in a typical work year when Noland was the city attorney, billing records turned over by the city show.

The figures came to light as the result of California Public Records Act requests The Sentinel filed late February through March, and inspection of the records with a certified public accountant.

Dowd justified the bill, saying it's a cost associated with the unexpected amount of litigation and doing the job the right way.

"There have been no expenses incurred by us but for that which was either required of us or expected of us by our client," Dowd said.

The city council members maintained that it's money well spent because various lawsuits were nipped in the bud through Dowd's representation.

"I will say that our last negotiation he did was done quickly," said City Councilwoman Marcie Buford. "It was a first-class job. Everybody walked away from the table happy."

Buford said Dowd has proved over the year that his work is worth the money.

"It's money well spent. I wasn't a believer at first," she said. "I wasn't convinced of the kind of expertise we were getting for the amount of money he was asking for. Now I am."

But the way Dowd's law firm has been compensated, and the way the city council allowed it, is criticized by at least a couple of legal experts who questioned the mid-year contract change that allowed Dowd's firm to get paid more for less work. Both called it unethical, and one went as far as to call it a "rip-off of taxpayers."

Meanwhile, an elusive question remains: What did the $250,000 spending cap ever mean to people? The answer to the question is woven amidst the tangled web of contract legalese, fine print and a behind-the-scenes tacit agreement among officials that $250,000 wasn't at all the final number.

Yet the money spent to pay for the city's heavy legal bills comes from local coffers and local taxpayers.

So why not recruit a pool of law firms with reasonable experience in municipal government law with a reasonable price, and hire one that offers the biggest bang for the buck?

The city council did actually conduct a "request for proposal"-based search after Noland resigned.

As a result, 11 firms submitted proposals in December 2006.

But familiarity, rather than cost and experience, seemed to be the city council's utmost priority.

Council members ended up hiring Dowd, who had successfully bailed them out of the open meeting law violations earlier in the year.

It was then revealed that his law firm was under criminal investigation during the recruitment process for alleged fraud committed by one of its paralegals, and that Dowd's wife had made a campaign contribution to Mayor Joaquin Gonzales, who sat on the subcommittee that recommended Dowd's hiring, an obvious conflict of interest issue.

Also it came to light that the city's own documents indicated that Dowd's law firm was in fact the most expensive yet least experienced in city representation among those who applied for the job.

Amid public scrutiny, Dowd emphasized, on more than one occasion, that his proposal offered a unique bargain to city taxpayers with the $250,000 annual fee limit he set for himself.

Dowd has, however, reversed his position.

Contrary to what he said a year ago, Dowd now says he doesn't believe in that cap amount and, in fact, he never has.

'It's illegal. It's fraudulent.'

"I was not trying to mislead people. Was I trying to say where we're going to be 12 months from now given the best estimate? Yes," Dowd said during a recent interview. "If you ask me today where we're going to be on our billings to the city on April of 2009, I won't be able to tell you with specificity. But I'm comfortable saying it won't be $250,000. Could it be $400,000? Yes."

Dowd has also said other firms vying for the job were less than honest about what they would charge.

"I thought it would be a disservice to the community to say we'll do it for (a set) amount because if you read those proposals from other people, it was very limited what was going to fall within that set amount," Dowd said.

"I think the better proposal would to be honest and say, 'Here's what my hourly rate is and we'll all agree what work's going to be done and we'll shoot for a certain target.' And that was $250,000, which is not the number I said it should be."

Dowd says $250,000 was an "artificial number" imposed by the city council for the sake of budgeting.

However, Councilwoman Marcie Buford says it was a mutually agreed upon number.

"We discussed it and came to an agreement," Buford said. "Since it was discussed in an executive session, that's all I can say."

Buford did say that Dowd has voiced his opinion to the council about how much more he should get paid. And there was an understanding that the compensation would be renegotiated somewhere down the road, she said.

Dowd said he was asking for $350,000-$700,000 a year -- 1/2 to 1 percent of the entire city budget. That's a reasonable cost estimate for "proper" representation, he said.

"It isn't a $250,000 piece of work. That's the fundamental disagreement."

Yet Dowd signed the contract, based on a figure that, in his own words, he never thought was valid.

What was implicit then, Dowd says, was that he and the city council would revisit the number at another day.

That's a major foul, especially because Dowd was picked after a bid process, said Bakersfield attorney Dennis Beaver, who also is a columnist for The Sentinel.

"If he is saying he agreed to figures he never believed to be valid, if that's what he's saying, the entire bid process should be redone," Beaver said. "It's unfair competition. It's illegal. It's fraudulent.

"If the council said it wouldn't be a binding number, they are in serious violation of their own bid process."

City Manager Gary Misenhimer said it was more of an "informal" bid process.

It was a request for proposals process as opposed to a bid process, which Misenhimer said are different.

"You don't have to go through a bid process for this kind of services anyway," Misenhimer said. "It's entirely within the city council's discretion to hire whom they believe to be best qualified for the job."

That's hogwash, according to Beaver.

"If they accept bids, they are by definition engaged in a bid process," he said. "Yes, there is some fine-tuning involved. But in this case, they picked the most expensive and least experienced firm. They are ripping off the citizens of Hanford."

Another legal expert also questioned the motive behind the bid process.

"Why are you going through a bid process if they bid half the price and you don't choose them?" said Robert Fellmeth, former prosecutor and professor of the University of San Diego School of Law.

City Councilman Dan Chin explained it was to be fair.

"I can't speak for the entire council, but my reasoning was that it was a matter of fairness," Chin said. "I wanted to look for the best candidates possible."

Then there were changes to the contract adopted mid-year into Dowd's city attorney contract -- which city officials call a "clarification."

The amendment, adopted late last September and retroactive to July 1, shifted the contract period, essentially resetting the clock on the $250,000-maximum yearly contract.

Misenhimer said the purpose of the change was to match the contract period to the budget cycle.

"The original contract was from February to February. But our budget cycle runs from July to June," Misenhimer said. "It's easier for us to have all the contracts aligned with our budget cycle."

It was carried out in September because that's when the city council adopts any adjustments to the budget, Misenhimer said.

But the contract period for the city manager -- the only other city employee who works at the will of the city council -- does not begin July 1, and the city has no trouble budgeting his salary.

As a result, the $116,000 paid out to the law firm between last February and June was longer accounted for in the legal limit set forth by the original contract.

'We just clarified the language.'

A closer look into the September contract with Dowd reveals that it did more than just shift the contract period.

Verbage in the compensation paragraph also was changed so that the payment was no longer "limited" at $250,000 but merely "budgeted" at that amount.

"If we do exceed the $250,000, I want the opportunity to go argue why I still need to get paid," Dowd said.

But City Manager Misenhimer says the language doesn't change the intent of the $250,000 limit.

The amendment also allowed Dowd to bill separately for environmental litigation over private developments. The work was not specifically excluded by the original contract.

Dowd says the scope of work was revised because of the unforeseen needs since he took over.

No one could have predicted the amount of time consumed by the city on prosecution of former city managers and lawsuits brought by environmental interest groups, Dowd said.

"No one has the ability to predict what lawsuits are going to happen tomorrow. But it's a reality," he said.

It is true that new legal issues arose with resignation of former city manager Alan Christensen and his subsequent criminal prosecution, a lawsuit challenging Lowe's shopping center, and another suit challenging the city's water rate increase.

But it's also true that Dowd's bill was already near the limit in September at about $220,000, with five months still left in the contract period. Meanwhile, Dowd's firm had already billed the city nearly $30,000 for handling environmental litigation when the contract amendment was adopted in September.

Fellmeth, the professor of the University of San Diego School of Law, has a problem with that.

"Attorneys have a fiduciary duty to their client, that means you keep your word. But it's also true that legal representation is sometimes too hard to predict," Fellmeth said. "The right thing to do is to go back to (the client) before you incur the cost, not after. It's a cliche to say 'Don't ask in advance. Do it first and ask for forgiveness.' Attorneys should not be doing that."

But such a practice isn't uncommon, Fellmeth says.

"The fact is, if you are an attorney and if you are in the middle of 10 cases, you're very hard to replace," he said. "Theoretically, attorneys should not be taking advantage of their position to leverage more money from their client."

That's not how it happened, according to Councilman Chin.

Chin said that litigation arising from environmental challenges was never part of the scope of service for Dowd.

"We just clarified the language," Chin said. "The council had already known. We just clarified it for everybody. It was not a change."

Beaver opined that the contract amendment was a ploy that allows Dowd's firm to "get paid more for less work."

"He's basically saying, 'I want to get paid more because I'm doing more work than what I thought I would be doing,'" Beaver said. "He didn't mean what he said when he first agreed to that cap. Dowd needs to pay back to the city any excess compensation he was paid because of the second contract."

This contract amendment is the second major foul for the city council, Beaver said.

"If they pay him, then other law firms, which were competing for the job, are in the position of suing the city because they were rejected partly on the basis of this cap. They were denied their chance to work with the city because of unfair competition and dishonest bidding."

The reporter can be reached at 583-2429.

(May 4, 2008)

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The following are comments from the readers. In no way do they represent the views of the Hanford Sentinel

Outtatowner wrote on May 4, 2008 3:14 AM:

" I've always thought of the Sentinel as a rag, but keep up this kind of reporting and my opinion will change. "

DaTruth wrote on May 4, 2008 3:21 AM:

" Great job Sentinel... way to do some research and bring to light the corrupt small town politics that take place right here in Hanford. The bottom line is, when are people going to wake up and vote out these stagnant City Council members. Chin, Bufford and the rest of them need to go! Come on people, there are many in this town who are better suited to be on the City Council, so step forward and lets remove this out of touch group, whom has over stayed and abused their welcome! "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 4, 2008 7:28 AM:

" Isn't this like changing an estimate on the repair of your automobile without contacting you first. That is against the law. Forget about all the excuses what about a man giving his word that the max would be $250,000.00 and then going back on it in mid-stream. I say put the bidding process back in place and lets replace Dowd with someone who stands by their word, once it is given. I don't care about the environmental issues or anything else a man is only as good as his word attorney or not. Fire the bum and replace him with someone with integrity and character. "

LifeLongCitizen wrote on May 4, 2008 7:54 AM:

" That's allot of money for one year. I don't care what slick defense you bring up. A promise is a promise and Dowd broke it. What do we do now is the question for Hanford City tax payers. I urge all to attend City Council Meetings and voice their concerns. "

W.O.W. wrote on May 4, 2008 8:17 AM:

" What's happened to "integrity and honesty" in our local government?

Even though I'm not a fan of Dennis Beaver in this case he has exposed our fine attorney for what he really is....... Riding along side of Mr. Dowd is Mr. Misenheimer.....

Coucilman Dan Chinn is asleep at the wheel in that he just doesn't get it.....

Councilwoman Buford thinks everyone should get paid at the same level as she........

Reality: Most everyone else, however, is suffering from this dismal economic meltdown while these outlaws are robbing and allowing our City to be highjacked....

Thank you Mr. Yamashita for having the guts to expose our City's underbelly.... "

person wrote on May 4, 2008 8:25 AM:

" that is our great city council at work. they all need to be fired. they only think about themselves never about the people in the city of hanford. "

Tom wrote on May 4, 2008 8:44 AM:

" Is anybody really surprised? Dowd was in bed with the city council and the city manager from the start. The old-boy network in Hanford lives on. And Dowd's comment that such a cap is illegal and fraudulent is BS. Professionals bid for work all the time.
The bigger question is: in the interests of providing the best public service to his city, why didn't Dowd discount his billing rates and live up to his word? Unless, of course, his word is meaningless...... "

City Councils Fault wrote on May 4, 2008 10:35 AM:

" Ok, I now udnerstand the full story. The story indicates there was a "tacit" agreement between Dowd and the city and the number was used for budget purposes. If Dowd and the city came to an agreement which was not relayed to the citizens, shame on the council (again). Dowd is an honest man with a reputation he would destory for this city, but the City Council has once again demonstrated their unethical behavior. Are we suprised? I'm waiting for your reply. "

election wrote on May 4, 2008 10:51 AM:

" Reasonable people should get tired of this and decide for real change. If anyone is really concerned about this city and the getting rid of the good old boy system of scratch my back and I will scratch yours then let's take the opportunity to actually put our money where our mouth is and find good, honest people to run for the two council seats coming up for election this year. Buford in district B and Chin in district C are up for election this year. Let's walk our neighborhoods and find people with the guts and determination to represent us and run against these two incumbents. We cannot afford anymore to let Chin fake an opponent like Ayers did by having Escobar pull filing papers and never turn them in during the election for district A two years ago. Let's pull together and really show we care for this city. "

s gecht wrote on May 4, 2008 10:51 AM:

" That's why should never trust what a lawyer and members of the counsil say, until it is written down. "

Angry wrote on May 4, 2008 11:26 AM:

" I say put the job of city attorney up for bid again. If Mr. Dowd knew that $250,000 wasn't going to be enough money then he should have said so.
Mr. Dowd is a smart shrewd attorney. He is by far smarter than any member of the city council and not just in legal matters. He's a businessman as well. The members of the city council think they can hang with this big dog. They also think they are smarter than all of the citizens of Hanford. That's why they never really listen when the working people who pay the taxes and support this county try to get their ear.
The council said the money they paid Dowd was money well spent. I think if they were as smart as they think they are, they wouldn't need some expensive shrewd attorney to cover their behinds so many times. I also think the reason Misenhimer and Dowd have their jobs is because the council needs some good ole boys to look after them and their stupid decisions.I'm voting for a dog for CC. At least we'd have a good SPCA. "

Mike wrote on May 4, 2008 11:33 AM:

" When I read the headline for this article, my first thought was the Sentinel was publishing a hit piece about Mr. Dowd. I figured he wasn’t giving city business the high priority that it deserved. Then after reading the article, I realized the Sentinel was pointing out the exact opposite.

Mr. Dowd has not only spent the time he promised to spend on city business, but has worked over the hours he first allocated from his busy schedule. Mr. Dowd should be commended for his generosity with his time and effort in support of our city. It would have been much easier and more profitable for him to spend his time working for his other clients that pay a much higher hourly rate for his services. It is great to see such an accomplished attorney give back to his hometown with both his time and talent.

I believe that the city council recognized that Mr. Dowd would make every effort to guide the city through its many legal obstacles. The council should be commended for their foresight. I want to thank the Sentinel, for letting its citizens know that good people are still doing good things.
"

HELLO.....ANYBODY OUT THERE wrote on May 4, 2008 11:59 AM:

" Welcome to Mayberry II, where the town council will do as they wish. Unfortunately, in this case, it's not little morality lessons like on T.V.

How long is it going to take until this town truly wises up and realizes that "good ole boy/girl" syndrom rules this town. It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know and it's a true disease here.

I for one think that prosecuting the last two city managers only shows the "true spirit" of the city council and probably is a good percentage of this attorney's pay? .Justice or personal council vendettas?

I can't wait to retire and leave this town. At least when I move, I won't be so familiar with the city council and antics such as this "Sentinel Story" certainly exposes.

I guess it must be too hard for people to believe?
Look around at whose really prospering?
Good People of Hanford PLEASE wake up. They do this because most of us do nothing when stories like this come up, the majority of this town; should rise up in arms against this. "

d wrote on May 4, 2008 12:03 PM:

" Leave the man alone he has a NEW building to pay for. He just bought the old Thomasville Furniture building for his new office and it cost to redo everything. "

HELLO IS ANYBODY OUT THERE wrote on May 4, 2008 12:05 PM:

" i RE-READ WHAT I WROTE AND TO THE EDITOR READING THIS. PLEASE CHANGE MY COMMENT IF POSTED.

THE ENDING SHOULD SAY, WE SHOULD ALL TAKE INTEREST NOT TAKE ARMS. SORRY, FORGOT TO CHANGE IT. I DON'T BELIEVE IN VIOLENCE. "

ubserd wrote on May 4, 2008 1:17 PM:

" Leave it to the lawyers!!! They are the biggest thieves, and they do it legally. The city needs to get their money back and fire the law firm. Which we know will not happen due to this was a favor. Hence the contribution. If I were looking for a lawyer I would stay away from this law firm. They have ripped off enough people already. I would hate to be told one thing and then get another, and find out by having to pay another lawyer to read the paperwork. That is how all these lawyers work. Try to stay away from them. "

ALEJANDRO wrote on May 4, 2008 4:13 PM:

" THANK YOU SENTINEL:
This is truly important stuff! "

ALEJANDRO wrote on May 4, 2008 4:16 PM:

" Where to begin...

The new city manger, without any advanced degrees or basic 4-year college degree, goes on the record by explaining to the Sentinel:

"City Manager Gary Misenhimer said it was more of an "informal" bid process.
It was a request for proposals process as opposed to a bid process, which Misenhimer said are different."
"You don't have to go through a bid process for this kind of services anyway," Misenhimer said. "It's entirely within the city council's discretion to hire whom they believe to be best qualified for the job."

I guess his years of advanced legal education enable him to render this expert judgement. Heck that's why the Council pays him a lot more, right?

The question of the moment: Who exactly is looking out for the taxpayer in all of this?

Is the Grand Jury listening? "

FYI wrote on May 4, 2008 6:23 PM:

" It seems that the good-old-boy network is alive and well in Hanford. If the contract was for $275,000 for the year, how can the city be charged a higher amout? I think that this is something the Grand Jury should look into. I wish that I had contracts that I could change when and if I desired. I know some credit card agreements that I would change. Don't be suprised if the city dosn't get hit by a large lawsuit by another legal organization who put in a bid, but was not selected. "

Impossible wrote on May 4, 2008 8:07 PM:

" I, as a taxpayer, cannot believe the flagrant misuse of my tax money. What color of trash will we be getting next in order to pay for Dowd's misrepresentation of his word? He knew a slick deal when he saw it. What is the matter with the city council members? Are they that out of the loop in town that they didn't know his reputation as an attorney? He is definitely not worth the money. How can you give this guy so much and ask senior citizens living on limited incomes to foot the bill? People in this area better wake up! We need term limits on every elected position - that would solve some of the problems. I as a voter will be voting against every incumbent running for office in this area. If you take note, they are usually endorsed by the "good old boys". We need to stop this strangle hold. They are sucking the air out of this town. I may be only one vote, but together we can be enough to bring about a change - a good change. "

The cause wrote on May 4, 2008 8:17 PM:

" We woudn't have to pay to negotiate or defend lawsuits if they weren't continually brought. Dowd may have worked for the City buy one needs to realize WHERE the work comes from. What, you want him to slay the dragon for free? Hanford NOW, Hanford HEAT, Valley Advocates, and the various acronyms cause problems from the City Council meetings down to lawsuits. Before you crucify ANY attorney, not just Dowd, why don't you look at the issues that the City is turning over to their offices? No one can predict there will be three lawsuits this year against the City totally a defense of $300,000. Add the Ethanol issue and it will go higher. So, who is to blame now? Look beyond the smoke and mirrors, Dowd is working for his City. Stop being jealous of a man and a firm that IMO walks on water. I'd like to see anyone posting here do better. Dowd and the firm are exceptional and some people can't handle nor understand it. "

W.O.W. wrote on May 4, 2008 8:28 PM:

" I wonder if the other attorneys in Dowd's firm are "on board" with him. I know several and can't even imagine they are of the same "but of cloth" as Dowd.

However, if the present City Council can't understand what going on "heaven help our budget".

Now that's he's been exposed what will the Council do??

"

curious wrote on May 4, 2008 10:20 PM:

" Why is Alan Christensen on Trial again? "

Throw Out All The Incumbents wrote on May 4, 2008 10:29 PM:

" Time to throw out all the elected officals and put in Honest people. "

Not surprised wrote on May 4, 2008 11:14 PM:

" Lawyers and politicians.....two of the most trusted and honest professions out there. If you mix cow poop with Hanford water, why is anyone surprised that the mixture stinks? "

Dont miss this gem wrote on May 5, 2008 6:27 AM:

" Everyone seems to miss this little gem in the middle that sums up everything this abuse is about: "Council members ended up hiring Dowd, who had successfully bailed them out of the open meeting law violations earlier in the year. It was then revealed that his law firm was under criminal investigation during the recruitment process for alleged fraud committed by one of its paralegals, and that Dowd's wife had made a campaign contribution to Mayor Joaquin Gonzales, who sat on the subcommittee that recommended Dowd's hiring, an obvious conflict of interest issue". Is this just a pay-off? Great article, I might just re-subscribe! "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 5, 2008 8:21 AM:

" Mr. Misenhimer, in clarifying the language you removed the $250,000.00 cap so you did change things. Who do you think you are fooling with your pea and shell game? Dan Chin said it was fair, wasn't it Dan Chin and Dowd who approached the Hanford Sentinel together without an appointment? Sounds like their buddies from way back perhaps Hanford High School? I agree it is time to replace each and every member on the city council and if we don't we deserve what we get in the end. Put a council in there that isn't locked into their own little pet projects, this is about what is best for Hanford and the Community not what's best for Dan Chin and Marcie. Do you two really need to think about if you are gonna run again, I hope you do, because this city is gonna send you both a message that you won't mistake for adoration. Wipe the slate clean and begin all over again. If not for the city council there wouldn't be an Ethanol law suit, not so fast Marcie we aren't letting you get away with it this time. "

Power to the People wrote on May 5, 2008 8:27 AM:

" We are a consulting firm that submits for Request for Proposals (RFPs) to city and other municipalities. Public agencies typically will require a "Not to Exceed" amount that seems to be what Dowd agreed to. Whether it's an RFP for professional services or an actual bid process, the city council should have adhered to a selection criteria thus selecting the firm with the most city experience and least expensive since it received other law firm proposals. The city did not have to go through this process and could have selected any firm they wanted as "professional services." However since they did not proceed with the latter, the city should re-bid the position if Dowd does not agree to the original contract amount of 250K.

If there are other interested parties other than myself that would like to start a recall petition for the city council members that voted for this contract (and the contract for the city manager)and to bring fairness and transperency to our city government, let me know. "

GEZZ wrote on May 5, 2008 8:43 AM:

" I was wondering if you guys are going to put a picture in of Mr. Dowd Can you do justice. That must be such an old picture. He is a rather handsome guy!! So if you are going to throw rocks at the truth lets see a nice picture of Mr. Dowd. So we can say He's one hot guy
LMAO "

W.O.W. wrote on May 5, 2008 9:37 AM:

" Section 17200 of the Business and Professions Code prohibits this kind of shenanigan. Problem is other firms who bid on this job would be ostracized if they attacked their fellow pirates. Therefore, the District Attorney or the Attorney General should be looking into this matter. Also, what's the Grand Jury doing? "

Lori wrote on May 5, 2008 10:08 AM:

" I was born here in 1962 my grandparents migrated here in the 1930s.
I have had more then one run in with the city counsel over the years.
I played by there rules and lost every time. When you walk in before that counsel
Your fate has been decided long before the meeting takes place.
It is sad.
I love Hanford! But I decided the only thing I can do is sit back and watch.
We are growing so large now that I don’t look for things like this to keep happening
I just hope I live long enough to see the city clan torn down.This is not just about this one issue there are so many.I really hope one of the other law firms steps in and makes them accountable for this whole thing.
"

Great work wrote on May 5, 2008 10:51 AM:

" Wonderful reporting. Sad thing is voters will do nothing about those on the city council come election time. These are the people you elected. You will not change ever hanford, even with a great paper like the sentinel looking out for you! "

one question and a comment wrote on May 5, 2008 1:58 PM:

" Question - The article didn't say how much was spent on lawsuits. I'd like to know how much the base contract was for and how much as billed as "extra". What I'd really like is a breakdown as to what was spent on lawsuts by HEAT and Harriman. Did the sentinel read the contract between Dowd and the City, that might better show why it was so much extra. Is that something you can print??

Comment - All consultants bill for extra work. I'm sure Dowd had a list of things that are considered "standard" items and then another list of things that would be charged as "extras". There's not a person here that would agree to do any work outside of an agreed list. If I had a paper route with 100 homes and agreed to deliver for $100 per month would I then agree to add another 50 homes for the same price?? No, I'd charge more. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 5, 2008 2:14 PM:

" Do you hear that sound? That is Marcie and Dan and all other Council members flushing your tax dollars down the toilet, they just had another City Council Meeting. What's going on with Dowd is he is receiving his reward for bailing them out on their meetings Ron brought suit against them having. Remember the Brown Act, well now I think they should call it the Dowd act. Where is the Grand Jury when we need them the most? Mr/Mrs. Jury Foreman do your job and take the City Council to task and appoint another City Attorney that will keep his word not hold the city hostage every time a law suit comes around the pike. I thought handling law suits is what the original $250,000.00 covered and so did every other tax paying citizen in this town who allowed the Council to hire Dowd in the first place.
Robert Dowd needs to be removed from his post as the terminator he is trying to terminate the first 1% or 2% of the total budget for the City of Hanford. Next year it will be 4%, 5% and so on, "

Carpe di them wrote on May 5, 2008 2:42 PM:

" You indicate Dowd charged more than a contract allowed. Dowd charged more under a NEW contract than the OLD contract allowed.

Dowd gives better service, could have not renewed the contract, and the City made a new contract that gets Dowd to continue working for the City. Why did Noland leave? Did he decide he wasn't getting enough? Did the CC decide they didn’t want Noland anymore?

Based on the numbers in the article, you’ve made math errors – such as Noland’s average monthly charges. How many other math errors are in the numbers in the article? Was the certified public accountant you used the cheapest and most experienced you could find?

You question what the $250,000 spending cap meant. You consulted with two attorneys for this article; couldn’t they figure out what the contract meant? Were they the cheapest and most experienced you could find?

You get what you pay for. The CC seems to think the City is getting the legal services it is paying for. I don’t know how much the Sentinel is paying for accountants and lawyers, but it’s too much! "

JUSTICE wrote on May 5, 2008 3:04 PM:

" THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHY THIS CITY AND COUNTY NEEDS AN INDEPENDENT AUDITOR.....SAME OLD THING JUST A DIFFERENT DAY THE SAME DOGS POOPIN IN THE SAME OLD YARDS,SAME NAME SAME GAMES JUST DIFFERENT DAY. "

To Carpe wrote on May 5, 2008 3:14 PM:

" The Sentinel spends it's own money on attorneys and accountants. The CC spends our tax money. The CC is responsible to taxpayers to make sure there is not an abuse of spending and should be upfront when a budget is about to be exceeded or when it has been exceeded. Why does the CC have to be caught at everything? Why do they think they have no obligation to communicate with the taxpayers? is it arrogance or ignorance? Probably both. Dowd just counts on blind obedience from the council and apathy from the taxpayers. "

Carpe di them wrote on May 5, 2008 3:40 PM:

" To "To Carpe":

The Sentinel hired an account and some lawyers to do an article that says the City is paying too much for legal services. The Sentinel's accountant can't do math, and the Sentinel's lawyers can't figure out what a contract says. That seems like a problem with the Sentinel, not the City.

Nowhere does the article state the new contract was not discussed at open meeting or that no notice was given to the public. That might be real news, but the article gives incorrect numbers, meaningless quotes, and no news.

Even if you accept the premise that the City is paying more, what does paying more mean? The CC saw what Noland did and sees what Dowd is doing, and the CC thinks Dowd is doing more and is worth the price.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

If the taxpayers are unhappy, maybe they can elect a CC that will get Noland back. "

To Carpe wrote on May 5, 2008 4:38 PM:

" How long have you worked for Dowd? You avoided the statement about reporting to the taxpayers.Do you think there is any obligation for the council to let taxpayers know they were grossly outspending the amount that was announced previously? Do you think the CC had this obligation since Dowd had stated publicly that he would not exceed this amount in the first year or he would work for free? I think we taxpayers definitely got it and sure are paying for it. All because the CC owed him one. And the staff in charge of writing checks was just given a huge raise that was negotiated by guess who? ahhh, that's right. I'm just glad the sentinel is bringing it all up since the ones that were suppose to didn't. Our elected officials that think they are much more important than they will be after the next election. Anyone should be able to win against this bunch. Anyone should win by just saying they will find a new attorney firm as their first order of business. "

DaTruth wrote on May 5, 2008 4:39 PM:

" Dont blame the good ole' boy network... It's the voter's fault for reelecting this council into office over and over. Until others step up and challenge these people for their council seats, they will remain in office and continue to make poor decisions. If we want to end this circus, then we need to do so on election day! Wake up people, it's time to get some need blood in city hall! "

TO Carpe di them wrote on May 5, 2008 4:55 PM:

" Are you Dowd himself? Or are you just one of his friends? Or are you a friend of Dan Chin's.

The truth is the truth. Deal with it. Way to go Sentinel. "

What Is Dowds Word Worth wrote on May 5, 2008 5:07 PM:

" NOTHING "

Carpe di them wrote on May 5, 2008 5:50 PM:

" To "To Carpe":

"How long have you worked for Dowd?" If he offers me a job, I'll take it. (Call me, Dowd.) Of course, it might help if I was a lawyer, but I'm not. Then again, if the Sentinel offers a job, I might take that too. Times are tough for this hombre.

"You avoided the statement about reporting to the taxpayers." I did respond when I pointed out that the article fails to state that this matter was not put before the public. I'll bet it was. What more should the CC do? Force feed information to the public? Don't we have rights, even the right of ignorance?

Again, the Sentinel's accountant can't do math, and their attorneys can't figure out a contract. With the help of these "experts", the Sentinel questions whether the City pays too much for legal services. Based on the article, a bunch of dunder-heads are ready to burn down city hall.

In formal terms, you people have been Rope-a-doped by the Sentinel. Rather than be upset that you didn't get any news, you're upset about non-news. "

W.O.W. wrote on May 5, 2008 6:30 PM:

" Let me see. $250,000per year is not chicken feed even here in Hanford. Even if he paid his paralegal at $20/hr he'd still have over $200,000. That would be in addition to his "lucrative, busy" other part of his practice.

Get real! This guy is a thief and it's our money he's taking. The Sentinel only told it like it is. "

gaucho mom wrote on May 5, 2008 9:29 PM:

" Why does Hanford have to pay its City Attorney more than other like-sized valley towns? Are things more complicated here? If it's because of lawsuits, why do we have so many lawsuits? Do we have more problems for some reason, or is Hanford just more litigious than most cities? Why?

What can we do to stop the insanity? Look back at the last few years and check the CCs giveaway of our money. They've seen that they can get away with it and they're getting more brazen (and generous). They know it will die down in a few days and it will be business as usual. With the City Mgr and City Attorney working together against our interest they sky's the limit. "

Outtatowner wrote on May 6, 2008 8:38 AM:

" The bidding process may technically have been legal and the city council may be comfortable paying these fees. But, bottom line: ". . .attorney Robert Dowd swore he wouldn't bill the city more than $250,000 a year -- no matter how busy he might get."

I don't understand why Dowd would tarnish his reputation for a couple hundred k's. He can justify it any way he wants, but is your word worth anything?

On a different note, how much do like-sized towns pay their city attorneys? That would make for a good follow-up article.



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CC Watchdog wrote on May 6, 2008 8:51 AM:

" I think the Grand Jury needs to step forward and make the CC cease and render all decisions regarding expenditures through the Grand Jury. Dan and Marcie know they can't get reelected so they are cashing in all the favors they owe people before they are ousted. The writing is on the wall and in Dowd's law firms checking account, do you need more evidence? These two and their band of outlaws are casting very bad decisions all about the City and we the taxpayers will be paying for them. Beginning with the law suit where Dowd has to defend their hiring of him which we will end up paying the bill on. These other law firms are not going to stand by and watch the CC screw them over like this, they are afterall lawyers. Law-Suits is what they also do for a living. Dan and Marcie and their band of outlaws need to be impeached at the earliest possible opportunity. IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH AND SEND THEM BACK TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THEY SHOULD BE STRIPPED OF ALL ENTITLEMENTS TO INSURANCE/RETIREMENT LET THAT GO TOWARDS FEES. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 6, 2008 9:03 AM:

" The City Council members are not untouchable a signed petition for their impeachment with enough signatures can cause a special election to deal with this slime, once and for all.
I've been telling you for months what they are all about, now it is time to act and quit talking about it.
It's all about them and the favors they owe a select few who are receiving their due for keeping them in office and saving them from prosecution.
They know what they did in regard to the Brown Act was illegal regardless of lawyer speak and they know on that one, they just about got caught red handed with their hands in the cookie jar of ignorance.
If the City Council is truly trying to do what's right for the community why don't they make sound business decisions that save the community money? Instead of using the city coffers to bribe an attorney to save them from a law suit brought by our own District Attorney. We get better representation by the Hanford Sentinel than we do by our entire City Council, that is so wrong in so many ways, I can't count them all. "

DONT BE FOOLED wrote on May 6, 2008 9:39 AM:

" DOWD IS SPENDING ALOT OF OUR MONEY BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW HE IS NOT THE ONLY FIRM THE CITY PAYS FOR. DOWD DOES NOT DO PERSONNEL MATTERS FOR THAT THE CONTRACT OUT TO A SANFRANCISCO FIRM. SENTINEL CAN YOU FIND OUT HOW MUCH WE PAY THEM? ARE THE ANY MORE? "

Alan G. wrote on May 6, 2008 9:54 AM:

" Gaucho Mom, I suspect that if the CC was more virtuous, there would be less need for costly legal bills. "

Hypocrisy wrote on May 6, 2008 10:13 AM:

" Once again the fine "leaders" (haha) have done it again. Guess what happens when any other City dept. has to bid for services? The City always chooses the lowest bidder.
Dowd is crying that he isn't getting paid for the "extra" work he has done. Well, neither are any employees of the City who are continuing to do more with less as public safety services continue to decline. Heck, the City is proud of the fact that there are less employees per 1000 people now than there were 20 years ago (it's in the budget). So, Dowd you can join the rest of the City employees who are suffering to support their families because I know that it is impossible to live off of $250K a year in one of the poorest counties in the state.
This is cronieism at it's finest. I hope that the department heads and City management realize that when they are at Dowd's annual New Year's Eve party and they are eating FREE food and drinking FREE booze, that it was paid for by the hard-working tax payers and City employees.
Solution=Revolution! "

More Raises wrote on May 6, 2008 10:18 AM:

" All City department heads and the Deputy City Managers got raises ranging from 9-10%. About $1,000 a month more per position. Add that to Misenhimer's ridiculous raise and it's probably a total of $10K a month that we are paying. More with less puts more in our manager's pockets. "

Lynne R. wrote on May 6, 2008 10:44 AM:

" Bravo gaucho mom. Numerous civil rights and public interest cases against the city, and why? More litigation = more private lawfirm money. Solution: hire an "in-house" city attorney. An attorney paid the same regardless of billable hours with strict financial limits on hiring outside contractors. That will change the brazen and cavalier manner current and future council does business. If the city attorney is a paid position, budget $250K, (Avg. yrly/salary gov. attorney per "PayScale" w/20 yr. exp. $109K w/ben.) their advice to council would be based on questions of law rather than how much money and fame a case generates for the firm. Cases on appeal have potential of being published and perhaps setting precedence or stare decisis, the Holy Grail of law and legal fame (See Kings Co. Farm Bureau; Peanut Village; Hernandez; et al v. City of Hanford). Not many small cities have the distinction of "fighting it all the way to the Supreme Court", and taxpayers flipping the bill all the way to a private law firm. Noland's firm/or their contractors are still billing the city for legal work left over from "before" Dowd. Someone else's mess to clean up, brazen and cavalier council, indeed! "

Whats going on in this City wrote on May 6, 2008 2:27 PM:

" You have got to be kidding me! When are the citizens of Hanford going to finally see through the smoke and mirrors and demand a government that does the right thing. Shouldn't the recent lawsuits and investigations of all the top officials be a clue that something isn't on the straight and narrow in this town? Cant' the grand jury look into the corrupt city government? Isn't it time the District Attorney conduct their own investigation? I think our City government is wasting so much money over Christianson's lawsuit to take the spotlight off of their misconduct. Please Mr. D-A, file a charge against the City Council, Mr. Dowd and the City Manager for this gross misallocation of public funds! If Mr. Dowd said if he reaches $250,000 in one month then he won't get paid another dime for the rest of the year, and then charges an additional $130,000 isn't that fraud? And what about the people who authorized that? Something needs to be done, these people are drving out great city into the ground and they don't care who gets ran over along the way. "

ALEJANDRO wrote on May 6, 2008 4:38 PM:

" Here's a couple of novel thoughts:

Create a salaried position of 'City Attorney.' Pay them an annual salary which I am sure will be no more than 250,000 dollars. California has the most number of attorneys per capita of any state, so we can't say there is a shortage. Hold an open hiring announcement and have people compete for the job. Poof: no more excess ‘billable hours.'

Also, the City doesn't HAVE to FIGHT every single lawsuit. It could just default on the less important issues and then, if it's so important to the City, let the affected private parties sue each other. Poof: No more excess court time on the taxpayer dime.

Or, simply govern smarter. Have the City perform much-improved due diligence when deciding an issue before it runs afoul of the point of contention. Again, smarter government means less lawsuits. What a concept!

Why does the City always have to be right, and then spend our money to prove it?

As an attorney would say: ‘Asked and answered,' I guess. "

W.O.W. wrote on May 6, 2008 5:22 PM:

" Sounds like there are some pretty well informed taxpayers out there. Lynne C. from Chin's district I hope_________? Gaucho Mom sounds like a good choice. Who's district is she in? Will she or Lynne C. speak up. Let's us know your district. CC watchdog might also be a choice. If you don't know what district you're in know let me know and I'll give you the street boundaries. "

W.O.W. wrote on May 6, 2008 5:30 PM:

" To Lynne:

Your idea of a City Attorney position the same as a City Manager makez good economic sense. A good paying job, plenty of benefits and plenty of time to handle all the cases. Where did we get off track. I remember Larry Clawson, City Attorney, and he certainly didn't seem to have the problems we have today. Treat groups as the Council treats them and what the heck do they expect. These groups have no other recourse except to sue. Throw Dowd in "briar patch". "

Outraged wrote on May 6, 2008 8:28 PM:

" Actually, that is a very flattering photo of DOWD, Have you seen his puffed up face lately! Finally it all comes out and more to follow. Keep it up Beaver! We need honesty in our leaders. "

enough wrote on May 6, 2008 8:36 PM:

" Isn't it interesting that the City Council fired Christiansen over $1000, and supported the prosecution of Jan Reynolds over whether or not he told the truth about showing them a piece of paper, but will not even bat an eyelash over $20k, $300k, $700k? I guess it takes a liar/cheat/idiot (you choose!) to know one, and in this case we have a whole basket full of them. This may give some insight as to why Mike Noland resigned. Let's nip this in the bud, Hanford...start by recalling the entire brainless wonder of a City Council we have, and finish by hiring competent legal counsel. "

Jenna wrote on May 6, 2008 8:42 PM:

" Good job Sentinel. I will subscribe now. Keep up the good work in exposing these Good Old Boy schemes. leave it to Beaver! "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 6, 2008 10:53 PM:

" Recall, Impeach, Recall, Impeach fire the bumbs. If we are gonna spend city money let us spend it wisely on a recall of all the city council members and fire Dowd. The only one's who think Dowd is worth the money is the City Council Members he got off the hook for violation of the Brown Act. I suggested months ago for the city council to contact Comcast and have all their meetings telecast so the shut-ins and older folks could see what this fine group of people are doing behind our backs. There is enough senior vote in this community to make a difference and their isn't a single council member addressing this group on a regular basis. For Marcie and Chin it's about the only group they have a chance of convincing them to vote for them. According to the article in the Seninel today the younger crowd doesn't see a problem, but most of them interviewed for the article aren't even of voting age yet. So of course they don't have a problem with the current city council. One person has the delusion they are better some how. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 6, 2008 11:09 PM:

" If my health would allow it, I'd unseat one of those jerks myself. They spend spend spend and they are selling our grandkids futures down the drain. We won't need a City Attorney before too long because there will only be a bankrupt vision of it's former self left. Please, people take back this community while there is something worth taking back. Between Dowd, Marquez Brothers being gifted a city street, charges brought against them by the D.A.'s Office, appointing a Travel Bureau Executive who abscounded with $15,500,00 of city funds, frivolous vendetta style lawsuits against former City Managers, Misenheimer's salary, (he was overpaid when he was purchasing parts for the city yard), when are you all gonna say enough is enough? Misenhimer wasn't good enough for the position when the CC picked Mr. Christensen, now all of a sudden he is? What is wrong with that picture folks? The Council projects it's power very well within who it places in key positions. 1 to 2% of the entire city budget is now directed into Mr. Dowds law firm and that's just the first year folks. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 6, 2008 11:24 PM:

" I would like the movement to begin with someone starting a petition to give the Hanford Sentinel and Comcast exclusive rights to protect our first ammendmant rights and report and televise every Council Meeting. If Attorney Dowd doesn't handle personnel matters, charges extra for environmental issues, just exactly what does he do for that $250,000.00 per year? That is an awful expensive retainer for someone who doesn't do much, don't you think? We better get a criminal attorney on staff too at the rate the city attorney, city manager and etal are draining the funds in City Hall. I don't know how five people can meet in the landmark that is Hanford, California and perform such incredible feats of epic proportion, mismanagement regarding their performance as our representatives. They do this on Hanford's truly hollowed ground and smerk to one another as they pull another one over on the good citizens of Hanford. These people are laughing at us all the way to the bank fellow citizens. They are nothing more than a glorified medicine show. Only what they are selling is much more expensive and we the taxpayers pay it. "

JB wrote on May 6, 2008 11:31 PM:

" You guys are not very nice... Mr. Dowd needed our money so he could pay for all the houses on his block that he bought, so he could take their yards and make his PARTY pad. I am wondering if I tried buying all the houses on my block, If the City would come up with some type tax on me or even let me take the surrounding yards for my purposes. "

Really wrote on May 7, 2008 12:16 AM:

" What makes you people think that this is the whole story? There are always two sides to a story and apparently this is the side of the Sentinel. There are some facts and some quotes in the article. Don't judge Dowd or the city from this article. A lot more is going on behind the curtain that the townspeople don't know. "

hanfordcitizen wrote on May 7, 2008 7:26 AM:

" The CC and Dowd are so proud of him for getting them out of their alleged Brown Act violation last year. But what seems to be lost in their nonsense is that it appears Dowd's first official act as City Attorney was to march the CC right into an actual Brown Act violation. And they both admit it. If we recall correctly, his "getting them out" of the alleged Brown Act violation was to advise the CC to enter into an unprecidented injunction to record closed sessions of the CC meetings. By their own admissions, Dowd's "revised" deal must have been made in closed session and not disclosed in open session; a clear violation of the Brown Act. Hey, CC, let's see the minutes of those meetings. Where is our effective DA to enforce the injuntion, and where is our Grand Jury, and the state attorney general. You can't make this stuff up! But apparently the CC and Dowd are making this up as they go along. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 7, 2008 9:15 AM:

" To gaucho mom - a lot of this has to do with the majority of the City Council grew up and went to school in this very town. The click was established way back then and continues to thrive today. They take turns electing each other Mayor and continue to do as they please instead of how we the taxpayers please. I grew up in this community and have lived in several communities and never have I seen such blatant disregard for the taxpayers and citizens of a community than the present City Council exude during every meeting they conduct. No wonder they don't want their meetings broadcast, they would be shown for who they are and there would be documentation of every vote for the public to view whenever they chose to do so. What else are they trying to hide. Marcie recommended and voted for the Ethanol Plant, she will gain personally through gasoline sales in her businesses, she never should have been involved in the decision, in any other community she wouldn't have been. Gasoline is $4.00 a gallon and she votes for an ethanol plant. Who saves? "

W.O.W. wrote on May 7, 2008 9:17 AM:

" Really wrote there are things "behind the curtains you don't know about". Exactly the point most everyone concerned here knows or suspects. Just those items smoked out and reported by the Sentinel are financially destructive to the City's (Taxpayers') financial well being. Since you seem to have "insider" information you might enlighten us to the other "behind the curtain" activities . "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 7, 2008 10:07 AM:

" I have a very simple question from a very simple man. Why wouldn't we question water rate hikes when our water isn't even fit to consume? As for the City Manager lawsuits, who pushed to file them? The attempted prosecution of Mr. Christensen has probably ten times the amount of money involved which has already been paid back by the way. (Sounds like Dowd is continuing this for mo'money)
City Manager Jan's case is gonna end up costing nearly as much for the city to prosecute and there again the money wasn't even accepted. (Sounds like in both cases there exists a personal vendetta)
As for the Ethanol Plant, I haven't heard a positive comment made on it in any blog contained herein, so why wouldn't it be challenged, no body but the City Council and Marcie Bufford want it to come to fruition. We don't have a City Council we have one like mind with dogmatic tendancies running our city which is contained in five different bodies. You never hear of a heated discussion or disagreement which is unheard of when you throw five people together to decide.
"

TIME FOR OUTSIDE HELP wrote on May 7, 2008 10:26 AM:

" This matter needs to be investigated by the Grand Jury. PERIOD. Here is the complaint form. All somebody has to do is print it and spend the money on a stamp:

http://www.countyofkings.com/grand%20jury/Complaint.pdf

I just hope the jurrors aren't brothers of Dowd or Chin and in Kings County/Hanford, they probably are. "

concerned Citizens wrote on May 7, 2008 1:22 PM:

" Thank you Mr Dowd for all the hard work you do for us. Anyone who knows you know you are a fair and honest man. "

New Mail wrote on May 7, 2008 1:32 PM:

" Thank-you city council. It seems you guys are the only ones who know that we have an excellent attorney Bob Dowd working for us. You have my vote as well as hundreds more. "

To Concerned Citizens wrote on May 7, 2008 2:19 PM:

" Hopefully after he is removed from his office, the one he was never elected to, you will still think he is a good man. Or do you only think that because he is your friend and it's good to have friends with connections? "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 7, 2008 2:35 PM:

" To Concerned Citizens - you speak as though you speak for many. I doubt that is the case, but nice try anyway. Thank You Mr. Dowd for the lies and taking at the very least $150,000,00 more dollars from the city coffers that is deffinately the action of a liar, cheat and thief and you call him a good man, I'd hate to see a bad one.
What's the good you speak of are you one of the Council members he got off the hook? Maybe that is where the plural in your selected name comes from. Some people are ignorant boobs no matter what the case. You can lead a voter to common sense but you can't make him accept the facts, just provide them for them. No wonder these people keep getting elected. Concerned citizens you are deffinately not in Kansas anymore and this isn't the Land of Oz. Although it does contain five scarecrows a tin man and a made made from straw, you figure out who they are? Dorothy isn't Dorothy either, so the likeness ends at the city hall door step. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 7, 2008 2:42 PM:

" To Concerned Citizens - Jan said he had a contract no one can produce it. Dowd says he didn't so he doesn't have to honor it. Does anyone besides me see a similarity in these scenarios. I think the wrong man is being put on trial in this matter, if you charge one you must charge both. There's is your defense Jan, your move was no more illegal than the City Attorney's. Difference being Jan returned the money, Dowd bought an entire city block now who is guilty in this case? Come on sports fans you'll have many scenario's thrown out at you but isn't this one more valid than any you've heard so far? If Bob Dowd is a good man then so is Jan, so what's the beef, one is on trial and the other is hundreds of thousands of dollars richer Congratulations Mr. Dowd and I didn't even know Hanford had a lottery, but you're sure the new winner in town, you and Misenhimer both struck oil in your first year. We can only imagine what year 2 will bring. "

To watchdog wrote on May 7, 2008 3:23 PM:

" When you are elected, I trust the Golden Rule would apply and others will treat you as you treated them. Hopefully it will be biased, incorrect and have the picture on the front of the Hanford Sentinel.

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H. Ramirez wrote on May 7, 2008 3:59 PM:

" Of all the letters to the editor, 71 at the time of this writing, I count only 4 of them that have any thing good to say about either the city council or Mr. Dowd. Hmmm!! It makes me want to question why we don't have this many people show up at the council meetings to voice their concerns as to how the city is being taken care of by the present council members. It seems to me there are more than just a few who want a change on the city council. Come on, you sleepy-heads, get to the meetings. Lets do something before it's too late. "

jeremy wrote on May 7, 2008 4:08 PM:

" Mr dowd says he did not foresee having to prosecute a former city manager. Is it just me or isnt prosecution up to the D.A.? I may be wrong and if i am let me know. Kind of funny that the former manager is being prosecuted for "stealing" less than a thousand dollars. Mr dowd has stole one hundred and thirty times that amount. Just because he is an attorney he wont be prosecuted like he needs to be. "

Becky wrote on May 8, 2008 9:30 AM:

" We love you Bob Dowd. Stay in there. "

bobby wrote on May 8, 2008 10:18 AM:

" Thank God , we have a strong city council who knows to hire a strong attorney to deal with issues. I hear a lot of hot air from people who only see the surface of the issue, but don't know the whole story. Good job city council. "

to Becky Bobby wrote on May 8, 2008 2:40 PM:

" It's only right that you stand up for your dad. Afterall, look at the cash he brings home to buy you two big toys. "

CC WATCHDOG wrote on May 8, 2008 2:56 PM:

" IN RESPONSE TO TO THE REPONSES TO CC WATCHDOG - I would certainly want the Golden Rule to apply especially if I was as inept, incorrect, biased and disrepsectful of the community as the current Council is that is for sure. As for my picture being on the front page, it's a waste of space but if it goes with the job so what, I'm not wanted in any police systems that I am aware of so what's the big deal. That is an excellent likeness of Mr. Bob Dowd years prior, so whats the beef? They now are considering an expendicture that could lead up to $3,000,000,00 to silence the train whistles cause a few businesses in town complained about the noise. You better be Thankfurl there are still trains running through this small community they couold always side track them over toward Visailia or Lemoore keep complaining and they probably will do just that. Good thing Lemoore Naval Air Station isn't Hanford Naval Air Station, that's all I can say noise making jets, Marcie would pull her hair out and evict them. Does new blood scare the current council? "

bobby wrote on May 8, 2008 3:02 PM:

" Isn't it funny when someone speaks their mind, the only thing someone can write is to try to degrade their comments. I will pray for you. "

CC WATCHDOG wrote on May 8, 2008 3:07 PM:

" You can't replace a single tie rod end and expect to have your front end straightened out, you have to replace all the weak links in between and realign the entire front end to fix the problem. That is what needs to happen to the City Council, City Manager, City Attorney and a few Department Heads and Administration Positions in this town in order to rectify what the current City Council has accomplished of late.
A new broom sweeps cleanist my grandmother always use to say. Grandma was never wrong about very many things, unlike our current city council.
The Unqualified, leading the unqualified to the nearest bank, what will they all do buy vacation homes in Encinada or create their own island and villas? They are collecting enough money for it.
Oh just an observation has anyone noticed the cheese plant is expanding their parking lot for trucks down 6th street now. Yeah! they are staging trucks to be loaded and trucks that have been loaded on another Hanford city street, where does it stop? Chief Mestas could you look into this matter, I believe there is an ordnance regarding it? "

CC WATCHDOG wrote on May 8, 2008 3:10 PM:

" BEWARE HANFORD SENTINEL, CARROL'S TIRE, BADASCI THE CHEESE FACTORY IS GRABBING PARKING SPACE UP YOUR STREET NOW. WON'T BE LONG UNTIL THE SENTINEL BUILDING BECOMES MORE COLD STORAGE FOR CHEESE AT THIS RATE. "

Hanford Citizen wrote on May 8, 2008 4:59 PM:

" O.K., Bobby, what's the whole story. We are all waiting. What part of the story are we missing? Seem's pretty clear to all but you. Unless the Sentinel story is grossly in error, and I mean grossly, Mr. Dowd did not keep his deal, and did not intend to keep the deal he made with the City from day one. In fact, he seem's to admit this in the article. Bobby, please help us better understand what possible explanation there could be, and please fill us in on the facts that are missing. We're waiting. And waiting. And still waiting. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 8, 2008 6:53 PM:

" Please save your prayers for the soon to be fired City Council and City Attorney and Mr. Misenhimer. "

Somebody please help wrote on May 8, 2008 6:56 PM:

" I just hope that our District Attorney's office will look into this matter. I work for the City and I have a contract, does this mean that since the economy has taken a dump and I can no longer live comfortably in my tract home that I can get a $1000 a month pay raise? If so, what paper work do I need to sign? Believe me, if it wasn't 1) a conflict of interest and 2) career suicide I would run for council myself, at the very least I would love to spearhead a recall petition for all five members of the council, the City Manager and the City Attorney. Heck let's throw in some of the department heads and upper management people that have been here so long they have grown roots. Hanford needs new blood. We need outside influence and modern ideas. We have got to stop being so afraid of change. We need people on the Council who don't have big money interests in this city and who won't be afraid to put their foot down and say no once in a while. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 8, 2008 6:56 PM:

" H. Ramirez, could it be because we have given up on this Council and are waiting for the next one that will replace them, when is that vote in November, I believe. Enjoy while it lasts cause it's sooner than you think. "

DowdCalhoun wrote on May 8, 2008 8:30 PM:

" Some of you are asking for the DA to look into this matter. Let me remind you that Ron Calhoun was employed by Bob Dowd. He also wrote a letter to the editor supporting Calhoun's questionable behavior while in office. Calhoun is just another puppet for "good old" Bob in the long line of political strings he pulls in this county. Personally I am tired of a person with his record "running" this town. I always vote for candidates that are not backed by Dowd. I know that in this way, we hopefully have a chance to get independent persons in office. We all have a chance in June to make that happen. Be informed! "

W.O.W. wrote on May 8, 2008 9:24 PM:

" I hear rumbles and names (too early to identify) in

Chin's district!! "

To Dowd and City Council supporters wrote on May 8, 2008 10:05 PM:

" I've read a few comments stating that the Sentinel isn't telling the whole story. Well this is the internet age and setting up a blog is free and easy. So I ask you to tell us what the Sentinel is missing. State your case. If you do, make sure you let us know where to find it. "

Ironic wrote on May 8, 2008 11:01 PM:

" Hmmm...wonder if Bobby is the family member of Bob Dowd? Talk about biased.

I think the facts are loud and clear that there's something not quite right. Two city managers getting fired, city council member illegally living out of district, new city manager being hired and given raises but not qualified by the application requirements, lawsuits, city attorney racking up the money while living like a king of Douty Street and flaunting it.

i urge a petition be started being covered on tv so the citizens of Hanford can watch how our money is being spent. I also urge the Grand Jury to investigate if the closed meeting laws were violated by Dowd's contract regegotiation. I'm sick of the good ol boys click here in town and the wall around you is crumbing. I urge all readers and citizens of this blog to send a complaint to the grand jury and stand together as a community.

Thank you Sentinel for being the watchdog for our community. Congratulations Eiji on your award and keep up the good reporting. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 9, 2008 7:49 AM:

" To DowdCalhoun, I got my absentee ballot in the mail yesterday for the June election the council members are not on it, I believe that happens in November and only two are up for bid, we need a recall folks. "

Citizens beware wrote on May 9, 2008 7:50 AM:

" The CIty of Hanford has been operating with roughly $1.4 million dollar surplus (in the black) which is smart business because it means we aren't over spending. but do the math, if we pay Down upwards of $700k next year and add the $250k+ that the finance director is projecting we may not get from the state due to the current budget issues, and add to that the inflation and you can see that soon enough we will be sitting in the red (spending more than we have coming in). But the council doesn't seem to care about that. They don't care that their mindless spending is driving this city into financial ruins. It's been said already but if the city would stop fighting every petty issue then we wouldn't need some high priced lawyer.

I have a question for you "DowdCalhoun" if Calhoun is in the pocket of the great puppet master then whats the next step for us? Who do we contact to get this fixed? "

To Power to the People wrote on May 9, 2008 8:09 AM:

" I'm for a recall - how shall we proceed?

Shall we all meet somewhere.

Come on people, instead of blogging to death, let's remove these people that think they are of a higher society or class and can do as they please?

I'm on board for the long haul. I'd love to start from scratch with people who actually concern themselves with the majority of the people to whom they profess to serve.

Mayberry II and Good Ole Boy Syndrom, YOU'RE OUTTA HERE..... "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 9, 2008 9:40 AM:

" Televised City Council Meetings, where have I heard that suggestion before? It's finally catching on, they won't be as likely to act like fools if they are being televised doing it folks. Then when they do it is there for every citizen within viewing distance to see it. They don't even want to make hard decisions from behind closed doors. Why shouldn't hard decisions be reached in front of the public, let us see you argue and fuss over what you think is right, instead of being a stone faced single minded body who does as you damn well please. That's how voters decide who they want to keep and who they want to get rid of in most cities. IF YOU AREN'T DOING WRONG A TV CAMERA SHOULDN'T SCARE YOU!!!!!! "

Power to the People wrote on May 9, 2008 9:42 AM:

" This is an email address for our business, laborc@cnetech.com. The principal is licensed as a private investigator by the State of California. If the citizens of Hanford are interested in a recall petition its important to determine the number of signatures that can be gathered. I will then research the government statutes and regulations that cover city council recalls in our state. Please send us your name and contact information. Your privacy information will be kept confidential. Make sure your residence is within the city limits.

In a democracy, all things are viable! "

Alan G. wrote on May 9, 2008 9:46 AM:

" REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 9, 2008 9:52 AM:

" Think we should give them the respect they don't give us? I think we should meet at a City Council Meeting and one of us should approach the microphone and speak for all of us and announce that a petition is being circulated to recall each and every one and give them the opportunity to step down rather than be fired. I also think that a complaint by as many of us as possible should be completed and submitted to the Grand Jury, just in case there has been criminal acts taking place. They got out of the Brown Act but what else may be hanging out there we aren't even aware of, that hasn't surfaced yet. In your complaints please include a request for a complete investigation into the agreement with Dowd and his billing practices, we might be able to recoup some of that money through legal means. Also question the appointment of a City Manager who does not meet the miniumum requirements to hold his office. Request an entire audit of city finances in every department and investigate travel expenses and other reimbursed expenditures by the City Council and Employees.
"

Power to the People wrote on May 9, 2008 10:02 AM:

" A check of the state web site for recalls is governed by Const. Art. 2 Section 19 and Election Code Section 11000 et seq. Recalls may commence after 90 days in office. Recall may not commence if an officer has 6 months or less left in term. California does not require specific grounds for recalls. The time for gathering signatures is 40 to 160 days (depending upon the size of the jurisdiction). Signature requirements vary according to the number of registered voters in the jurisdiction: 30% if registration is less than 1,000; 25% if registration is between 1,000 and 9,999; 20% if registrtionis between 10,000 and 49,999; 15% if registration is between 50K and 99,999; 10% if registration is 100,000 and above. "

Jack wrote on May 9, 2008 12:02 PM:

" Don't forget that Dowd had HESD in his pocket under Presley as well.
Who was it that said 'a person only needs so much money; the rest is just for show'?

I sincerely doubt that he and his firm even need the $250k, much less 380-

I might need Edwards' services again to clean something up, but I'm starting to think of boycotting the entire firm. Any monkey can do what they do. The public opinion can ruin their reputation any time! Remember that... "

Smith wrote on May 9, 2008 1:16 PM:

" The county has county counsel go over every contract to make sure the contract have no hidden agendas. Is there something inplace for the city as well? "

Stop talking and start doing wrote on May 9, 2008 2:01 PM:

" To those of you who are up in arms about a recall why don't you contact the Sentinel and ask them to publish an article stating a time and place for a meeting. Then it's public knowledge and you can go from there. I know several people that would sign it. I'm not 100% sure but I think you can only vote to oust the representative in the district you live in. I may be wrong.

So, if you are truely serious then get that thing started, I can't since I work for the City and I would like to continue doing so. "

W.O.W. wrote on May 9, 2008 2:41 PM:

" Here's a tidbit I just learned. It could be the reason the Grand Jury is not investigating Dowd is the Judge Bissig is the Judge in charge of the Grand Jury and guess what........Judge Bissig was a senior partner in the infamous firm of Griswald, Bissig, LaSalle, Cobb and Dowd..... "

HA wrote on May 9, 2008 2:41 PM:

" One things for sure, if they televise the meetings Thomas will have to stop cussing in there. How professional! "

W.O.W. wrote on May 9, 2008 2:50 PM:

" More tidbits..........Seems the recycle program is so successful (money saved in tons dumped) that the revenue generated/saved by the recycle program (no dump fees) would come back to us, the taxpayers, in form of reduced monthly garbage fees. When asked if we can have a smaller trash can the City (Manager's) answer was akin to saying the loss of revenue would mean loss of jobs (City) and benefits. What good does it do us if all the effort to save is "gobbled" up in salaries and benefits by our City employees including Misenheimer's gigantic raise and Dowd's rip off!!

A real reason to "clean" house in November or at least remove two of the bums!!!! "

ironic wrote on May 9, 2008 4:52 PM:

" to Jack...He's got HWHS too. His nephew is the new principle. "

Watchdog wrote on May 9, 2008 4:57 PM:

" To Jack - Bravo Jack glad to see an understanding is being formed that when monkies eat and sleep and play together they all soon become baboons. So don't contribute to the delinquency of a baboon I always say. "

Watchdog wrote on May 9, 2008 5:04 PM:

" Jack - re read the article, I'd forgotten their firm was under investigation for fraud at the time they applied for the bidding process or during it. Dowds wife donated money to Mayor G's campaign fund and he was on the selection process for City Attorney. This whole entire bidding process smells fishy to me, don't know about the rest of you out there. Oh yeah how much was Dowd paid for his represenation of the City Council on the Brown Act thing and who paid for it? Take a wild _ _ _ guess?
Alejandro - history is being written as we speak and Scott Tucker isn't even here to see it happen, he missed out again. When will that boy learn to get involved?
VIVA LA RECALL !!!!!!!!!! BUENOS NOTCHES~
"

To CC Watchdog wrote on May 9, 2008 6:30 PM:

" From DowdCalhoun: We the taxpayers need to look at all of the politicians that Bob has endorsed. This is not limited to the City Council. It involves KC Board Members, DA and Judges. Fox ex., Currently there is a judge on your ballot that has the full support, especially financially, from Bob. Letters were sent on Bob's professional stationary, asking for campaign contributions to attend a fund raiser held at Bob's home. I don't think that we can afford to focus on just the CC. We need to look at all aspects of his political meddling because it affects us all and gives Bob control, which allows Bob to do what he wants, even changing his own contract from $250,000 to a blank check. "

To CC Watchdog wrote on May 10, 2008 3:21 PM:

" I wish you would go to a City Council meeting, so we can all finally see the real "good ole boys" (Alejandro, Tucker, WOW, Angry in Nevada etc.)! Same old people writing anything they can negative about our city, because thats all the Sentinel ever writes. A recall election means more $$$ and the odds of ousting the incumbent is slim at best, but go ahead and give it your all! The Sentinel will probably not post this because I am taking a shot at the people who support the removal of all city employees. I'd be willing to bet that not one of you posting has the intestinal fortitude to run for office. Of course, how would we know if it was in fact you, since you never post your own names? as for CC's never ending obsession about the selection of the city manager, the city manager job description say a degree or sufficient experience to perform the job. Get over it already! "

DL wrote on May 10, 2008 8:02 PM:

" I heard that Bob Dowd is using the extra money to build a secret lair in an island volcano! Also, didn't he cause small pox? "

To sum it up wrote on May 11, 2008 8:44 AM:

" There are more than a couple of people that are crying foul on this one. And there is plenty of blame to go around between the city council and the city attorney. Then there is the usual suspects that pop in and try to defend Dowd's actions or the integrity of the council by pointing out that things are much worse elsewhere. The Sentinel did a fine job of reporting on this and it clearly documented the fact that we have a problem with the city council and city manager either not paying attention or counting on apathy. The city attorney is so arrogant that he thinks he runs the city. Or maybe he does for now. That is just how disgusting this group of elected, self-serving, band of idiots performs. People are amazed when I share this story outside of Hanford. Yet the council and Dowd seem to be amazed that The Sentinel published a story about it. Thats how bad it is folks. Get on board with changing this mess. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 11, 2008 9:11 AM:

" In response to the response to CC Watchdog - It's amazing to me that you say we don't identify ourselves and yet neither to do you. Rest assured the good ol' boy network will be dealt with and if you are a part of that so will you. As fpr Alejandro, WOW, and Angry in Nevada, these people are rock solid citizens who care about this city and as for Tucker he and I can't even agree when the sun comes up, which indicates to me just how far your cerebral up your butt condition really is.
The recall will not cost anymore than the printing of the ballots if it occurrs during a regular election Mr. know it not. What is worse a few dollars on a recall election or $3,000,000.00 on silencing the trains. It is much cheaper to silence the City Council and save hundreds of thousands of dollars in wasteful salaries. You get rid of them you just might find all the frivolous law suits will disappear too. As for the City Manager's qualifications, what your telling me then is a gardner could hold that position. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 11, 2008 9:20 AM:

" In response to the response to CC Watchdog - Continued as long as the Gardner has time in service with the city? I think not, confused thinker. The experience has to be comparable experience to that as City Manager. Did Misenhimer work for another city as City Manager while back stabbing and biting his way up the ladder at the city of Hanford and we didn't know it? The only problem with your offer of rebuttal to the things we say is the ignorance that over shines your ability to express yourself, which convinces me you are a Hanford City Management Employee, probably promoted to a position you aren't capable of performing. You are right you won't see my name on the ballot for health reasons, don't think the city needs a City Council Member having a heart attack in front of all the constituents, otherwise spanky, I would be right there in the running and see to it that all five of those so called city misleaders were dethrowned. But it seems with the backing I've seen in these blogs it won't be a problem without my participation, so hang on! "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 11, 2008 9:29 AM:

" In response to the response to CC Watchdog - It never ceases to amaze me how the players in this pea shell game think they can come on here and display their thoughts about the bloggers and you know it is the very baboons we are talking about in disguise, or their family members.
I was on the court house steps as promised this weekend, did enjoy the art in the park and antique sale. I also noticed the KC library was selling books had a wonderful lunch at my faborite ice cream stop. It was so nice to see the community supporting events in the beautiful city square we have, would like to see more of it, all you civic groups who do fund raisers should take advantage of it. The smell of bar-b-que in the air, the hustle and bustle of people coming and going it was quite an event and I see on the front page this morning the Hanford Sentinel was on the job reporting about it. Good going guys/gals you truly are providing the local element to your paper now and it is very much appreciated. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 11, 2008 9:36 AM:

" To the Hanford Sentinel - I just wanted to say a few words of thanks for the jobs you do in bringing the news to us here in Hanford Town. I want to apologize for the few who want to chastize you and make ignorant remarks about your capabilities simply because they don't understand that it is your job to report news, both good and bad. The people here who are so nagative about your reporting don't understand in order to report good things about the City Council, City Attorney and City Mis-Manager, you first have to have something good to report. It is not your fault that the keystone cops are alive and well in our city government and no one can fault you for providing truthful accurate statements about them. They have gotten away with their established Empire Style of government long enough it is time the Romans dethrown them. They have thrown too many good christians to the lions while self-promoting their pet projects for profiteering purposes. So I for one wish to Thank each and every one of you at the Sentinel for your professionalism in journalism. "

Power to the People wrote on May 11, 2008 9:52 AM:

" This message is directly to the individual that addressed CC Watchdog dated May 10, 2008 at 5:21 P. M. City employees cannot be recalled only the elected officials. I believe the majority of Hanford residences applaud all city employees for the hard work they do whether it's the Police and Fire who have to risk their lives to the Public Work employees that are out there fixing our city street potholes. They are the ones that keep Hanford running. Elected officials are exactly that elected and if they are not fulfulling their responsibilities for the people they represent, then yes they should be recalled. This is what a democracy represents, the rights of the citizens to take civil action and elect representatives that meet the needs of the majority. I am sure there are many persons in Hanford that are qualfied to run for city council and its just a matter of time that they will step forward. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 13, 2008 1:47 AM:

" I have a sense this blog is coming to an end but I hope the moderator will let this through before they close it off. I think that it speaks volumes that over one hundred and twenty conversations were inspired by this single blog and most of them were not favorable of Mr. Dowd nor the City Council and their actions reflect poorly on the City of Hanford. It demonstrates an inability for the Council to make responsible, intelligent decisions in their selections for key posts within the city that don't cause termoil, mass expense and mismanagement. This is sending the wrong message to the surrounding communities and people that the city has to deal with on a daily basis as a matter of city business. If you don't wish to participate in a recall that is fine, but at most let us all do the most profound thing we can under the circumstances and vote for the change that is needed in the next election. My grandmother who comes to mind often use to tell me if change doesn't happen if water sits still it will stagnate and that is what has happened. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 13, 2008 1:55 AM:

" I have a sense this blog is coming to an end but I hope the moderator will let this through before they close it off. The council members themselves have to be made aware that they speak for us all, not just a few agitated voices who don't like train whistles. But if we don't attend meetings if we don't canvass the city looking for support where ever we can find it, then I am afraid 3 million of our hard earned tax dollars are going to silence the trains if you want it to or not. They are known for following their own agendas, even though well disguised and hidden it is still to their benefit. We all know as business people in the community they have a vested interest and if you don't support them and don't support their businesses you'll send a message louder than any train whistle, boycott their decisions and don't put money in their bank accounts if you don't believe in what they are doing to our city. Why should we reward them for hurting us, it just doesn't make sense folks. Grandkids, remember! "

Randy wrote on May 13, 2008 12:20 PM:

" To Watchdog: "The council members themselves have to be made aware that they speak for us all, not just a few agitated voices [re: your cause here.]"

Well... there are roughly 30,000 people in Hanford, and there are only a handful on here complaining. Should the CC dismiss the complainers as the "few agitated voices" and listen to the majority that are OK with things? After all, Isn't one of the main principles of Democracy the fact that majority rules?

I'm amazed, but not surprised, that HESD and HWHS are now getting drug into these discussions. Don't the people of Hanford have anything better to do than play armchair quarterback with every form of government in the area? You folks are so paranoid about conspiracies that I'm expecting to see large numbers of folks at the Farmer's Market wearing tin foil hats and jumping out of their skin ever time someone says "boo".

I, and others, have said it before: Throw your own hat into the ring if you think you can do a better job. "

CC Watchdog wrote on May 13, 2008 1:42 PM:

" To Randy: Silencing the noise of the horn whistles is not going to silence the problem with the trains. A certain group of people have decided they are going to run the rail out of this city. Go ahead run it out and then what happens when the Bullet Trains come flying through Armona instead of Hanford and you can't travel to the Bay area or LA in a couple of hours? You think Armona is gonna share any of that windfall money with Hanford, not on it's best day. You think the Bullet Trains that will travel at 200 mph are gonna care whether you don't want whistles blown in this little whistle stop of a town? You accuse us of not looking to the future and catching up with the times, there has been a revitalization of the rail and you better except that, as gas approaches $5 a gallon one day you'll climb on that same train and ride it cause you aren't going to be able to afford your automobile any longer. Diesel prices have already pushed many transportation companies back to the piggyback rail system, open your eyes. "

Randy wrote on May 13, 2008 3:23 PM:

" High Speed Rail and Armona now?

This is about Dodd and costs paid by the city - not trains. (The preferred location for high speed rail tracks is in the Eastern corridor near Visalia and Tulare - not Armona. The possible scenarios were presented throughout the state, but that's all on hold with the budget crisis.)

The point I was making is that there are people who have taken it upon themselves to continually make implications of misdeeds without any facts or proof. People think they are experts in an area because they've seen Law & Order or read something on the internet, and their ignorance shows quickly here.

These people scream "recall" and cry about the conspiracies within all government entities in Hanford, but do they run for office so they can do a better job? No! It's easier to sit back and take potshots at the people that have dedicated themselves to public service.

The lynch mob just needs to put down those pitchforks and torches. Make a name for yourselves by highlighting (and being a part of) the positives, not by being negative and trying to bring down the government. "

Power to the People wrote on May 13, 2008 4:50 PM:

" To Randy: I guess I am part of what you called "lynchmob" carrying a pitchfork and torch. I worked 19 years in public service, a college graduate, business owner for 15 years and could not agree more that if the elected officials are not fulfulling their fuduciary duties it is the duty of the electorate to remove them from public office. That is the basis of a democracy and it's ability to exercise it's rights by implementing a recall. You are correct that the towns people need to take a more active role in civil affairs and I anticate that this may be the "Paul Revere" call for action that will light that torch! "

Watchdog wrote on May 13, 2008 8:01 PM:

" Randy- you need to learn some respect for people who may have been places and done things you have only dreamed about. You go on the attack because I don't set back like a zit and let the festering pimple grow. Who the heck are you to tell me anything, what contribution have you made? Have you raised a family, have you changed daipers and put bread on the table working your tail off two or three jobs to support your family? Have you raised a child from nine to eighteen by yourself? You make those kind of commitments and you soon learn you don't want your taxpayer money wasted on insignificant programs. We live in a throw away society, nothing is refurbished, rebuilt or reused anymore so let's take that same spoiled generation attitude with our City Council, let's set term limits so the Empire can't be finished by Mr. Dowd. Chin, Bufford and Ayers have made a career in public office and have performed an injustice to this city in making it seem like a full time job. While they address and cater to their special interests. Grow up. "

Watchdog wrote on May 13, 2008 8:10 PM:

" To Power to the People - the problem we are running into is the tight grip this community has been under can't stand the thought of releasing some of it's power, because Bob Dowd has been a power grabbing machine ever since his High School days, Chin was President of his Class and Marcie well she has just been herself. She grew up with Bufford Oil the Texaco across from the Sales Yard and has built her own little empire of mini-marts on her own. The trio don't know what the word "no" means nor how to scrape a living out of society without their golden spoons and rich families. So they motivate their family members to respond to these blogs under the disguise as a concerned citizen to counter our thoughts and booster the Council and Dowd's ego to continue to rip off the community.
So you never know who you are really responding to on here but you can rest assured if it is in their favor it is part of the long arm of Dowd. I am slowly putting together the necessary information to get the ball rolling, so stay tuned. "

Watchdog wrote on May 13, 2008 8:22 PM:

" To Power to the People - It is our Constitutional Right nay our Constitutional Duty to replace these money grubbing Politicians with people who care and want only the best for this community. The only part Randy got right is this isn't about trains, planes or automobiles. This is about Malfeasance, Cullpability, Dishonesty, Profiteering, Collusion, Legal Malpractice, A Law Firms very Integrity, those bills were prepared by his Law Office, count on it. Above all that one man's word to the citzens he so professes to want to represent so badly and how he broke it in less than a full year in his office. Does that represent a case of Legal Malpractice on the part of the City Attorney, absolutely, the word of a good man is mightier than any sword. But the value of a broken promise is the heart ache it has caused among those who suffer because of it. Not only that but if he will stand and lie to the community what will this man stoop to in a court of law to win a case and how can any judge accept his word? "

Watchdog wrote on May 13, 2008 8:29 PM:

" To Power to the People - The City Council has lost all creditability, Mr. Dowd cannot be relied upon to tell the truth without changing it to his liking at a later date. Where is the trustworthiness in this man practicing law and representing our community as it's City Attorney. As Mr. Beaver put out what attorney in his right mind is going to accept Mr. Dowd as a good faith negotiator when he has earned this reputation for being a liar? An Attorney is only as good as his own word, and we all know where that places Bob Dowd! It doesn't matter how cunning, ruthless or charming Dowd is people are going to see through it for the underhanded, deceitful negotiator he has demonstrated in his reversal on his own suggested contract. The City didn't ask for that, he laid it out there, they should have held him to it and refused to renegotiate until next year and not pay one red cent past $250,000.00 for the entire year of his first contract. But he did them such a favor against the DA, they felt obligated to him. Jokesters "

Randy wrote on May 14, 2008 11:31 AM:

" Watchdog - Do you see the irony in accusing me of attacking you when I don't know your story? Is this not the same as people coming on here complaining about matters when much is predicated on false rumors and misinformation?

Sorry, but I don't personally know Dowd or any of the CC members. I am an involved parent and citizen, not a know-nothing youngster. I put myself through college, and now I'm putting two children through without the benefit of assistance - even though I've paid my fair share of taxes.

I don't like to have my hard-earned money taken away and then blown, but I'm tired of the conspiracy theorists. People carry out witch hunts accusing everyone of wrongdoing until they finally stumble upon something. Sadly, scores of people are defamed without any apologies for the innocent.

Yes, there are dishonest people in all walks of life. That doesn't mean that every elected official and government employee is out to lie and take advantage of taxpayers. If there was wrongdoing in the Dowd matter, then go after the guilty parties.

Dragging HWHS into this was totally uncalled for, but not out of character. "

Hey watchdog wrote on May 14, 2008 2:45 PM:

" I hope your basing all your discussions on more than just he Sentinel article. I'm not saying there is anything wrong wtih the article but it seems like you know a lot more than the article says. Is that so? Even assuming the article is 100% correct, 100% forthcoming, 100% unbiased and 100% truthful one should not get all his information from the same pot. For instance have you seen his contract yourself? Let's assume his contracto says 250,000 for basic services and extra for all litigation? Would you still think the same of him? "

Watchdog wrote on May 14, 2008 2:50 PM:

" Randy - I attended HWHS during it's premier opening year when it contained only the Freshman Class on it. It wasn't expanded to a full four year high school until years later, read the history, if you weren't there to live it. I am not blaming the school for the nepitism I am blaming the Principal, he should have at all costs deferred from having his Uncle represent that School in legal matters. If it wasn't his doing did he bother to mention to the School Board who probably in fact did hire Dowd that they were related. Now every case that goes before a court of law that Bob Dowd represents will be required to disclose their relationship. A good Injury Attorney will go after that conspiracy like a dog after a bone. That is my problem with it and it is not my fault that Mr. Dowd has chosen to leak his power trip over and spilled it onto his own nephew, that would be his blame. Just more evidence of these so called good citizens not dong anything wrong. I notice you defer discussing Bob Dowds' 250K limit. "

Watchdog wrote on May 14, 2008 2:58 PM:

" Randy - I also went to College and it wasn't through a grant, it was through the GI Bill which I was entitled to use for the service of my country. I worked 35 years in the private sector, I worked as either as a Supervisor or Branch Manager/Sales Manager 28 years of that period. So I know a little about budgets, business practice, a small amount about law but have been blessed with a great deal of common sense over the years. That promoted me more times than my College Education did, and I will take common sense over many degrees that are purchased over the net these days. The biggest problem I have with Misenhimer is he doesn't possess either a degree or common sense. Perhaps with his new windfall winnings as City Manager if he really wants to keep his position he will go back at night and earn what you and I did. I went to college at night and worked 8 hours a day six days a week to boot. I carried as high as 16 semester credits in one semester to get what I wanted. "

Watchdog wrote on May 14, 2008 3:04 PM:

" Randy - I am sorry you feel so burden with having to put your two children through college. I always thought that was an obligation to our children to give them at least what we had to work with when we started out. I went to college while supporting my wife and raising my children myself. It wasn't an easy task but a required necessity and I felt obligated to better myself so my son would also. He is and has been gainfully employed in another state and Thank God he has my work ethic and is a responsible husband. One day I hope you can say the same of your children. Fatherhood isn't easy taxation is worse and misrepresentation of our tax dollars by unqualified people is the uptmost slap in the face to a hard working society and community. A few of you don't get the message this is doing somethng about it, the status quo is no longer going to be tolerated in this community. The rippers are about to get ripped, watch the next election and see. Randy I hope you aren't affilliated with these people. "

Watchdog wrote on May 14, 2008 3:14 PM:

" Randy - How dare you call this a witch hunt? Have we falsified any of our claims to their unqualified behavior. Behavior in case you didn't get this in college is not quantitative by any other human being, we create and are responsible for our own behavior Randy. These people have committed nothng short of treason to the community they have sworn to represent. You don't find 400k appalling when it was promised it wouldn't exceed 250k? You don't consider somone who stands before the City Council God and all the other bidders for his job and swears he will not exceed 250k per year in his billing regardless of the man hours it cost him? You consider this person honorable, truthful and a role model for your children? The Mistress of Texcaco in Kings County recommends and votes on a controversial building of an Ethanol Plant and you see no conflict of interest. Misenhimer doesn't possess the minimum qualifications for City Manager and is hailed as the best one in the century by our City Council. Randy wake up and smell the fowl chicken. We are being poisoned. "

Hmmmmmm wrote on May 14, 2008 8:36 PM:

" To "To CCWatchdog", I would like to know what job description you are looking at unless now the City Manager job requires less education than those he is suppose to be supervising. I am sitting here looking at the job description for "Deputy City Manager under the section titled "The Ideal Candidate" it says in the second paragraph "A Bachelor's Degree in General Business Administration, Public Administration or a related field is required. Look-up the word required "to demand as necessary or essential". I don't see how you can continue to say Misemhiemer is anywhere close to meeting the educational requirement. Unless the City Manager job does not REQUIRE any formal education. Let's all face it Misenheimer was put in a job by the City Council that he is not qualified for. Just another "Good Ole' Boy" to back up the dirty deeds of the City Council. We need to get together to remove this trash from our city government. Wake up fellow "Hanfordite's" this town is in need of a major change in leadership. "

Watchdog wrote on May 14, 2008 10:57 PM:

" To Hey Watchdog a response to the Dog - I know much more than is printed in the Hanford Sentinel because I and my siblings are very well acquainted with these people since their High School days and before. I don't care what the contract does or does not contain, this man stood before the council and gave his word that he would not bill the city of Hanford more than 250k in a given year regardless of his manhours involved. If there is something in writing to back up your comments present it to the Hanford Sentinel and let them print it. I do not believe you can present what doesn't exist. Even if anyone from Dowd's group did produce it, I would doubt the validity because it would have been produced much earlier on in this argument. The City Council posts their minutes from all their meetings on their site and I have not found anything backing up your claims in those minutes. I have many sources including some of the city employees who know they want things changed and know much more than the Hanford Sentinel, you and I know. "

Watchdog wrote on May 14, 2008 10:59 PM:

" To Hey Watchdog a response to the Dog - I am not the one who has lied to the entire city that would be Bob Dowd who as stated stood before the entire City Council and God as well as witnesses in the City Council meeting and said he would not charge more than 250k per year for his services. What more do you need than the words coming from his own mouth committing to this, it doesn't take a moron to figure out he lied and knew he was being untruthful when he made the remarks to be awarded the contract. If the city doesn't end up in a lawsuit over that bidding process it will be a miracle. "

Randy wrote on May 15, 2008 11:28 AM:

" Hanford is small and you are going to encounter folks who are related all the time. HJUHSD's hiring of Dowd's firm has nothing to do with his nephew at HW, and his nephew would no say in a district-level contract.

Some of the comments seem to be personal issues bordering on vendettas. Buford is the "Mistress of Texaco in Kings County"? (Is there still a Buford's Texaco? Every one I've been in lately appears to be run by immigrants.) Dowd was a power-seeker in high school? Chin was Class President? How dare he get involved? Everyone knows that being elected Class President is just the first step down the path to the dark side.

I don't have a problem with the Dowd contract because there are always unforeseen circumstances not covered. The sides meet, work it out, and then amend the contract. No big deal.

Did Beaver's firm submit a bid to represent Hanford? If so, maybe it's a conflict of interest for him to comment while contributing to the Sentinel.

I know, let's all go on Springer and sort this out once and for all. It's just about sunk that low already. "

Watchdog wrote on May 15, 2008 12:23 PM:

" Randy - Of course you see no problem with the contract for Dowd, Randy. You see no problem at all and think that we bloggers are on a witch hunt and all these laws and promises that have been broken aren't real. But then you are probably still looking for the boogy man on your back porch too. We are not a big city, we cannot afford a millionaire law firm to work for us. If we can then lets go get a good one with credibility behind it. You do the math, he went from 250k to 500k and that isn't even in the first year. Now you say he can bill 500k semi-annually. There is your million dollar lawyer folks and the City Council has approved it. Further proof that they are foolishly spending our tax dollars to reward their friends. I don't think the city of Hanford needs a City Attorney representing it that makes more than the President of the United States. Anyone else out there still in touch with reality. This is Hanford, CA not Washington, D.C. "

Watchdog wrote on May 15, 2008 12:32 PM:

" Randy - you wanted proof about what I know I provide it for you and you mock it so what are your credentials other than your ability to try and discredit the truth and justice? When Politicians or anyone else get out of hand in this community we the people need to real them back in. Where is the negotiation in this new contract, sounds like to me it was dictated not negotiated. That just goes to show what Mr. Dowd has for an ego. Once the other bidders are elminated the true costs which are probably considerably higher than all the other bids, start coming in to the City Council Chambers as they are dictated behind closed doors now the true cost of Dowd and associates is revealed. What a scam they had played on them and they fell for it, is that all Dowd's fault no it also rests squarely on the City Council's backs for not having the nerve to say; "that dog won't hunt?" Even if Hanford has a contract review in place, I'll bet Dowd is the reviewer? At least the County has their credibilty still in tact. "

Watchdog wrote on May 15, 2008 12:43 PM:

" Randy - It's nice to see you are such a Springer fan and you want to turn to him for all your solutions along life's highways and biways, no pun intended. "

Watchdog wrote on May 15, 2008 2:28 PM:

" Randy - don't you understand what this has done to the entire city of Hanford. The City Council has sent out a word to all vendors that it's o.k. come in with a low bid to get the contract and we can always come up with some lame excuse later to raise our bid and make what we really want after all the other bidders have been sent on their way. Not a vendor in shouting distance is gonna believe the city when it puts something out for bid any longer. Then you have the Keller Deal people buying up Ford so in reality when the city sends out a bid both entities are gonna know before hand what the bid is gonna be, because now they are under one roof of ownership. So now what, do we send our bids to Riverdale, Lemoore, Fresno, Visalia to purchase competitively? You think this deception and deceit hasn't reached out to other communities, guess again slim. The City is a laughing stock over this mess right now. All the Attorney's are holding meetings to decide what charges to file against the City Council. "

Watchdog wrote on May 15, 2008 3:07 PM:

" Randy - I invite you to read the City Council Minutes of April 15, 2008 and invite you to read under the litigation information, that Mr. Serpa and his attorney's have proceeded with their lawsuit and has charged in that process fraud by the City of Hanford. Along with a list of other non-compliance issues in the paperwork. Good going City Council, wait until his attorney points to the street you gave the Cheese Plant and brings up how discriminatory that decision was against Mr. Serpa. Others at the meeting also brought up valid reasons why the Cheese Plant shouldn't have been given a permit to build since the City Council directs all others to build on city owned property in the Industrial Park. They also use ammonia for their processing, the last time that was done was at Denham's Ice Cream by Kingsrow Ford in the 1970's. An ammonia leak could cause the evacuation of the city folks. What have I been saying all along, there is also a complaint from a citizen who says the Cheese Plant is dumping waste into our sewer system at an alarming rate. "

Randy wrote on May 15, 2008 3:18 PM:

" Jerry Springer Show, Taiwanese Parliament, Alabama State Senate... Some of the mud-slinging on here would fit right in, although there hasn't been any chair throwing just yet.

Do you think it is only a coincidence that Springer is a former lawyer and he also served as a City councilman and mayor of Cincinnati?

He happens to be a very intelligent man born in England after his family fled the Holocaust during WWII, and he narrowly lost winning a Senate seat in 1970. Even after resigning his council seat because of a visit to a "full service" massage parlor, he was able to run for the council again and win.

Why does this matter? It's about separating fact from fiction and dealing with issues within the proper context. Sure, Springer's show is something that should be flushed down the toilet, but he's giving the public what it wants.

The people of Hanford voted these people into office. If they've committed such egregious acts that border on criminal offenses, by all means let's have a recall. Otherwise, stay with the system and vote them out when their terms are up. "

Watchdog wrote on May 15, 2008 3:50 PM:

" Hey guys remember the credit card charges of $15,500.00 charge on a city credit card? Well I invite you to read the minutes from City council meeting on Feb. 19, 2008 where by concensus of the City Council they should revise the travel rules placed on city employees and look into ordering credit cards for the Department Heads. In otherwords our City forefathers put into the rules for Deparment Heads certain no no's and now the City Council has directed Mr. Misenhimer who will be a credit card carrying Department Head to revise the rules. Did the Travel Agency not teach these people anything, or is it oh well if it gets out of hand we will fire them prosecute them and replace the money out of taxpayers money again? I had a job driving all over northern california for a company and I had to pay all my expenses out of pocket before I was reimbursed a penney along with providing receipts and filling out an expense report in detail. I had to do this every week in order to operate the next week, what excludes them from following rules already in place? "

Watchdog wrote on May 15, 2008 4:02 PM:

" A word to the wise folks when Serpa brings a lawsuit he wins, don't believe it ask Rite Aide? He hires the best Attorney's and Dowd will be outclassed in the first five minutes of opening testimony. I've said it before, and I say it again, Serpa is gonna own the Hanford Plunge, Old Fire House plus Serpa Auto Sales on Lacey Blvd. before this little lawsuit is finished. Just because he is opening a new business in the Auto Mall doesnt' mean he doesn't want to continue his used auto business from his lots in Visalia and Hanford which are brought to the Lacey Blvd. location. You Go Mr. Serpa, you show them how sullied our City Council has become, how when it comes to a proven business leader who operates above board they don't recognize him or acknowledge his contribution to the city. Perhaps you should call it Cheese Plant Auto Sales, then you might get somewhere? Paint all the buildings red, white and green. They'd probably give it to you for $1 and call it good business. Don't forget to fly two flags! "

Randy wrote on May 15, 2008 4:12 PM:

" Laughingstock is right, but it's not just the city council. As for lawyers chomping at the bit to sue the city, it may happen. If those other firms look at their bid packets, they'll probably see that the scope of work was for certain services only. They'll probably realize that the services billed by Dowd were in excess of the scope of the work spelled out in the bid specs and original contract.

If their original bids were higher to begin with because they anticipated duties in excess of the original scope of work, that would have been a mistake on their part. The other option would be to claim that the city could have gone out to bid for each of the cases that were not included in the original contract.

If a company has a lawyer on retainer, that contract will often be for enough time to carry out routine actions that are expected during the duration of the contract. If additional services beyond the scope of that contract are necessary, an addendum is negotiated.

Sorry. I just like to look at things in a positive light rather than assume the worst. "

Randy wrote on May 15, 2008 4:42 PM:

" Now credit cards are a bad deal? Do you realize that it normally takes two to three weeks for a government agency to process a bill and cut a check because of the checks and balances that need to be in place for audit purposes? Just like any occupation or walk of life, there will be people that abuse the system, and there needs to be penalties for those that do. Some companies make everyone jump through hoops, but others trust their people and deal with those that cross the line. Where would you rather work?

The State of California has a VISA card program in place that government agencies can utilize. The agency controls spending limits and is responsible for addressing abuses, and it is used widely throughout the state without any more problems than purchase orders or reimbursement processes. People can get needed parts faster and most organizations save by reducing the number of Accounts Payable personnel, so it's a good thing.

But, hey, my old mare is just fine - we don't need that new-fangled horseless carriage here. "

Randy wrote on May 15, 2008 4:51 PM:

" Illegal dumping? Why not contact the authorities so a proper investigation can be carried out and charges brought against the company if warranted? I don't know if the PD or the EPA would be the place to start, but it sure ain't the City Council. Now the word is out and they'll just wait until the hoopla dies down before starting back up.

Serpa? Above board? Yeah, he does have funny commercials, but I don't think they're meant to be As a bonus, his soot-covered pictures look nice on the back of the KART busses. But since you don't like Keller, I guess it's Serpa or Hanford Toyota if you don't want to buy American. "

Watchdog wrote on May 15, 2008 9:39 PM:

" To Randy - boy I like this you are just as connected to the issues as I seem to be. Perhaps you are one of those state employees with a Visa Card in your wallet. My point is we have a Department Head on trial currently for abusing a credit card, when there are rules in place already to prevent that from happening. Our City Council jumps on board and opens it up now where every Department Head will have access to a credit card, do they all need a Visa Credit Card? You have made it clear to me that I worked for the wrong sector, I should have worked for the city of Hanford instead of the private sector where profits are required and misuse is punished. Quite obviously you must have your livlihood connected to the public service sector since you are so conscientous of the public employees and their entitlements established by you. Perhaps a union representative or negotiator whom have more prviligest than God available at their finger tips. I am not from the Stone Age but yes I do believe in accountability especially taxpayers rights. "

Watchdog wrote on May 15, 2008 9:45 PM:

" To Randy - you seem to be so well versed on Mr. Dowds contract, how pray tell are you privie to information no one else is or are you just guessing alot. I like the excuses you have made and the way you have broken down the feasibility study on something that has never been provided to the public in total, that being the actual written contract. You fail to mention also any other perks that may be contained in said contract, does he also receive entitlement to a Department Head Visa for her personal convenience. What to pay fees and such at the city level it is my understanding most court fees and similar costs are waved for municipalities. You do amaze me however you are so concerned about Bob Dowds reputation and him getting a bad name while you make enuendo regarding Mr. Serpa, do you know Mr. Serpa? As for vehicle purchases I tried to deal with Keller's Sales Manager who doesn't work weekends and we couldn't make the deal so I drove to Fresno made a better deal with another dealer who's Sales Manager worked weekends. "

Watchdog wrote on May 15, 2008 9:53 PM:

" To Randy - Serpa has more dealerships from more automotive companies than Keller does, Kia, Suzuki, Hyundai, yes they are foreign cars which I peronally would probably not purchase but he also takes american made automobiles in trade and sells them, mr know it all. As for his commercials they are no more ridiculous than the Keller Deal that Keller's organization chooses to run. My finding with Mr. Keller is it is a Keller Deal not a customer deal but a deal that works best for Keller. The city must feel the same way they just put out several vehicles for bid and only approved a purchase of a single vehicle from Keller and the remaining six are being purchased from Valley Ford prior to Keller's take over. So it seems I am not the only one who recognizes a good deal in town? Don't want the reputation change your ways. I've known the Keller's since his Dad owned the Pointiac Cadillac dealership in Coalinga, how long have you known him, Randy? I gave them first chance and they blew it. What about the other business by the freeway that get handouts? "

Watchdog wrote on May 15, 2008 9:58 PM:

" To Randy - people keep asking questions about 5th street and they get referred to Marcie or another underling at the city. Why isn't an article published explaining what the actual trade off was for the city to so willingly give up a portion of town to a private business. Why don't they just give Serpa that piece of property he is leasing, if he has invested $100,000.00 in it making improvements and more money is yet to be spent to bring it up to where it should be. If I were Serpa, I would get in contact with the city agency to have it condemmed and end my contract if it is in such dis-repair. Haglund made a deal and then said the City Council changed it's mind, well Jan made a deal and the City Council changed it's mind, Bob Dowd made a deal and then he changed his mind. I am seeing a pattern established here, how about you? The ever changing City Council perhaps Dowd wants to buy that property and that is why the City Council changed it's mind, I guess time will tell. "

Watchdog wrote on May 15, 2008 10:26 PM:

" Randy - In otherwords what you are telling me is if Bob Dowd included enough slick words and enuendo in his contract then it is buyer beware and screw the good citizens of Hanford? That is the type of lawyer in Hazzard County not Hanford, CA. I guess we as voters must now all return to school and be taught that it is o.k. for liars to be lawyers and lawyers to lie. I thought they were the one's who were suppose to set the example for the rest of us and be examples for our children to admire and look up to. Guess I watched too many Perry Mason movies when I was a kid. Somehow I think Judge Judy wouldn't see it this way Randy. Even though she is a paid actor she would see through the flim flam medicine man moves of Dowd and the City Council on this one. Don't recall the council and pay Dowd his ramson money for being your City Attorney, if we let it happen we deserve it. Market Place is gone, parks and recreation, police and fire down the drain. Oh well! "

Watchdog wrote on May 16, 2008 2:59 PM:

" Randy - those soot covered pictures of Serpa Man must be working, they caught your eye. By the way you see how the city is doing Serpa, yet without hesitation he continues to support the City of Hanford. Those buses you speak of are operated at a profit by the city of Hanford, doubt it I refer you to the City Minutes again. I'll give you a little history Serpa started out on a corner in Visalia not where he is today with his dearlerships. He had a small cozy office and some metal canopies for his detail and mechanic work. He transformed that into at least three brand company names on a lot the size of Kellers across from Savemart in Visalia. Lots in Porterville, Hanford and continues to thrive and grow. So the man must be doing something right. Not everyone like you is anti Serpa, would I buy a car from him possibly, would I ever try to make another Keller Deal, in an unambiguous manner I say unequivically no to his sales manager possibly directly with John yes. It's hard to buy premium prices in this economy. "

Watchdog wrote on May 16, 2008 3:06 PM:

" Randy - by the way the big enormous pickups that Gm and Ford and all the american auto makers thrive on are back logged at factories still in their own inventory because at todays gass prices people aren't buying them. Lousiville Kentucky was filmed on the news this morning with Ford Pickup after Ford Pickup setting not going anywhere in that plant and production has slowed and layoffs have been phenominal in that community. So when the auto manufacturers wake up and smell what the demand is for then american autos and trucks will again once move, if gas doesn't go to $5 a gallon. The buying public trys to stay loyal that's why I own a ford pickup and a Merury, but they are used affordable vehicles to operate. Yes they both get better than 22 miles to the gallon on the highway. Not 16 miles to the gallon like the new Yukon. I can go 120 miles farther in my used vehicle, thank you very much. Serpa sells vehicles in the 30-35 mile per gallon range. So does Valley Toyota, that new impressive dealership in the auto court. "

Watchdog wrote on May 16, 2008 3:15 PM:

" Randy once again we meet in the blog. As for the blog stopping the Cheese Plant from dumping waste into our sewer system if that is what it takes then so be it. My main goal is to stop it, however it's done. It's unhealthy, it is illegal and it is typical of their operations.
It was also announced in the minute at the City Council meeting that cement k rails have been placed to force traffic on 5th Stree to turn around before they reach the railway. I hope they aren't obstructing BNSF access to repair their crossings and tracks? The City Council once again coming to the aid of the Cheese Plant. That glorious red white and green cheese plant. I am glad I told my wife not to bring any of the products manufactured by that plant into our home. If they are illegally dumping what are they dumping into their products? Now that it has been discovered that ammonia is used to operate the plant and they have eliminated emergency access on 5th street we all better start making an evacuation plan. "

Watchdog wrote on May 16, 2008 3:20 PM:

" Randy have you ever experienced an ammonia leak, first it takes your breath away, your eyes begin to tear like you've been exposed to tear gas and then your lungs and chest begin to burn. It forces you to breath deeper and inhale more ammonia then you begin to run for fresh air only to find out it the ammonia leak isn't contained there is no fresh air. it takes hours and hours for the smell and gas to evaporate even with fans blowing and then it goes directly into our air in the atomsphere we breath in and God knows how long it takes to totally evaporate. You better have a respirator handy Randy, you just might need it. "

W.O.W. wrote on May 17, 2008 3:48 PM:

" To Watchdog:

Take a few day off!

"

Watdhdog wrote on May 18, 2008 3:30 AM:

" Thanks W.O.W. but if I take time off now who will keep the City Council in line? You know they are reading these posts we have gone over 180 comments even if most of them have been from me. But thanks for the offer, I see where you agree with my comments as well so hope you enjoy what's coming soon. "

W.O.W. wrote on May 18, 2008 4:29 PM:

" To Watchdog:
Didn't mean for you to stop. Keep it up!

Never been this much interest on any topic as I can recall.

Council needs to understand what's going on and step and and do what's right for those whom they represent. "




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