Ashley wrote on May 13, 2008 7:23 PM:
" This is the most ridiculous thing I've EVER heard!
These people are HOMELESS and squatting they have no right to be there in the first place. Maybe they should start arresting these people for trespassing. No I don't have any sympathy becuase these are the "chronic" homeless which means they are (for the most part) homeless by choice. These are not the transitional homeless that go to work every day and come home one night to find their house has been burned down. These are not the people who were living one paycheck away from the street and then some tragedy happened to them. So once again a person has the right to be stupid and society has to pay for it. Many of these people are on some form of government assistance and they choose to drink or drug their check and live on the street. These are the same people who when GIVEN a house or apartment lose it the next month becuase they choose not to pay the rent.
RIDICULOUS. "
hatred wrote on May 13, 2008 8:53 PM:
" hats off to the homeless!!!!!!!!! I hope they get a lot of money. "
Mrs.D wrote on May 14, 2008 2:37 AM:
" RE: Ashley. You are so right, dear! The homeless are homeless by choice. The chose to lose their jobs by downsizing and outsourcing to India. They chose to have their health benefits cut because the cost of psychiatric medicine is too much for insurance companies to cover. The chose to be drafted into the military over forty years ago to fight alleged Communist in Vietnam, only to come back with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. It's the homeless choice to suffer personal tragedies just to dampen your day, Ashley. How dare they?!
But don't worry, Ashley; Jerry Lewis is having a telethon over the Labor Day weekend. Maybe he can help you in your inhumane fight against the homeless. "
Ashley wrote on May 14, 2008 5:36 PM:
" Mrs. D. please re-read my post ... I am talking about the chronic homeless: those that choose to live on the streets. I understand and agree with lifestyle choice, unless it as at the expense of society.
I understand and recognize that there are people who are homeless becuase of a circustance: those are the people who every day either go to work or look for work, they are taking care of their families, and trying to get off of the streets.
Yes there are many mentally ill and veterans who are homeless: but there are many of them who are homeless by choice and I don't think that just becuase a veteran or mentally ill person chooses to be homeless it should be at the expense of society any more than anyone else.
THEIR CHOICE IS NOT MY TRAGEDY!
These homeless people in Fresno are nothing more than squatters. How would you feel if they decided that they wanted to set up a tent in your yard? "
Mrs.D wrote on May 17, 2008 1:36 AM:
" How would I feel if a homeless person put up a tent in my front yard? I wouldn't be opposed to it but my landlord would be a mighty bit ticked off. "
Watchdog wrote on May 17, 2008 6:10 AM:
" Mrs. D alias Darth Vader, you need to pull yourself back in from the dark side. The homeless veterans that suffer from post traumatic stress disorder obtained that while fighting for our country. Many of them because of the disorder are incapable of working. They find decisions you and I make very confusing and difficult to solve problems as we would solve them. This is a mental condition brought on by what they saw and went through in the course of battle and people being killed and killing other people. A little compasion might go a long way with these folks. This isn't something a veteran can turn off and on it is a condition that may never improve. You want all this understanding for autism because it directly effedts your family, well most veterans who have this condition lose their families long before they become homeless. Because they also cannot function and perform because of a mental condition. They deserve your respect and our tax dollars to help them and take care of them. If you people don't want to care for veterans quit having wars. "
Enough wrote on May 17, 2008 6:33 PM:
" This is all ridiculous...You can'ty allow the homeless to over run society. If they are Vets and need help we should help them, if they are drug addicts and choose to live as they do, I don't want them around. I can't stand driving thru a heard of beggers every time I go to a strip mall or plaza. I was in Fresno some time back going to a government building when out of a bush pops a homeless guy. He wakes up, urinates and goes about his day as if that is normal. Come on! Now you even have homeless gathering near the new Lemoore Chevron station. Where does it stop. Why should my tax $$ have to support that? Don't I pay enough to the career welfare bottom feeders? Enough of this junk. If someone wants to help, build a shelter and take care of them...It isn't the tax payers problem. If there is tax $$ to be spent spend it on prosecuting them. Everyone deserves a second chance not a lifetime of handouts. "
Mrs.D wrote on May 17, 2008 8:57 PM:
" Watchdog, alias Misty, you're just making excuses. The reason it's called Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is because when servicemen leave a warzone, the battle fatigue sets in. Either on base or back where they think it's safe, like home. The military doesn't cover too much for psychological help. Like that Marine here in Hanford who drove a truck into someone's house: he was out in March but didn't have a psych appointment until June. Why do you think the cheese fell off his cracker? These guys can't handle the PTSD so they just bolt from existence.
Do you think these homeless people are being punished? "
dose wrote on May 18, 2008 12:31 PM:
" To Ashley and Enough:
Can either of you show me where it says in the article that your tax dollars are being spent to take care of the homeless because I don't see that anywhere in it. What I did read was that these people are tired of cops and city workers taking their belongings and throwing them away. But according to the two of you it is illegal for homeless people to have belonging's apparently. I wonder how either of you would feel if I showed up at your house and just started taking your things. "
middle of the road wrote on May 18, 2008 2:00 PM:
" Ashley, I agree with you, these people are lost souls, it is not my fault or yours, or our government, it is quite possibly their parents or even Mrs D's for enabling their behavior, Mrs D you are lying, you don't want these bums on your front yard. If Fresno has to pay these Hobos one cent it is insanity, listen I have compassion and I have helped many that are in need, but I cannot stand by and watch the chronic ferel dreggs of our society be used by some slick layer, to blackmail our citys. Follow the money, find the layer and I will show you a worm, who says he is for the homeless but I guarantee you he AIN'T working for free..............wake up fools. "
non-ashley wrote on May 18, 2008 2:21 PM:
" Ashley?
I can picture you now, living on the street, homeless for whatever reason and enjoying the fun of your community tossing you to the side because you are stereotyped to be an addict, idiot, sex offender, alcoholic, worthless, etc.
Does that feel good?
Put yourself in someone elses shoes, before you judge them.
"
WOW wrote on May 18, 2008 3:32 PM:
" These are peoples children, brothers, sisters. and parents you are complaining about Ashley. How can you sit and judge anyone when you have no clue to the reason for them being homeless. With so many jobs outsourceing you will have a increase in homless people, and yes it is your governments job to pay for these people because if they would raise taxes to a uncomfrontable rate to any company moving to out of country for importing goods maybe they would stay here and these people could keep their jobs. "
dose wrote on May 18, 2008 4:45 PM:
" To middle of the road:
You know you would have alot more credibility if you knew how to spell.
And I don't understand you people, if a government employee came and took you belonging's wouldn't you fight back. According to you you wouldn't. So I guess if there are any criminals reading this they should just rob your house, since according to you there is nothing wrong with taking other people's privte property. "
ALEJANDRO wrote on May 18, 2008 6:37 PM:
" Now, now; we shouldn't be hypocrites.
Liberal, progressive Democrats just have to respect the rights of the individual so much that they should seek a kinder, gentler approach to enfranchising the homeless.
If it is OK for homosexuals to get married, then the least our state liberals and activist judges can do is to legitimize this homeless minority. Protect them. Nurture them. Give them ID cards and drivers licenses. Let them roam and live free in our public places 24/7. After all, it's their lifestyle and costs us zero in terms of housing costs, rent, and utilities. And give them some entitlement funds for necessities like food and clothing.
It's only fair, right? "
middle of the road wrote on May 18, 2008 10:31 PM:
" To Dose,
I find ironic that you would task me on my spelling and then mispell YOUR.........but listen the government is not going to send somebody into my house and take my stuff, but if I was on the street I sure as hell would expect it. Do you think they should get any money from the city?What did the police take, some markets shopping cart, get a clue, get a life and you would have a lot more credibility if you knew not to knock me and then make a worse spelling error than I did...........Hillary or Obama?...wake up fool "
To Dose wrote on May 18, 2008 10:35 PM:
" When cities are having to go behind the homeless picking up trash, cleaning the messetc. that is our tax $$. If food or shelter is provided to "solve" the problem that likely would be tax $$. Finally, when I turn around and I choose not to go into a store because I don't want to wade thru the homeless that would have been tax revenue the city would recieve from me spending money. Look it is simple take care of the people that truly need a second chance...the other bottom feeders need to go. Do you suggest we just simply let homeless do as they want and where they want? The whole thing is ridiculous! "
Mrs.D wrote on May 18, 2008 10:50 PM:
" RE: Middle of the road. Bums? Did you call these people bums?! And hobos?! I'm sorry your vocabulary is stuck in the 1920's, but these are people we are talking about. And remember a majority of them are former military men, so someone better revoke your Good Patriot card.
Most of you here are "good Christians". Now look up in your dusty copy of the Bible where the woman of Samara gave a stranger a drink of water. That stranger was Jesus Christ, not a bum, not a hobo. Just our saviour looking for a good person.
He won't find any in Hanford or Fresno! "
A friend of the homeless wrote on May 19, 2008 12:25 AM:
" Around a month ago the Hanford PD went behing Longs in Hanford and ran the homeless people out. They were in the field by the railroad tracks. They had tents and a couch. They made a fire and fried their food out thier so they could eat. Most of them are disabled vets from out of town. They have no where to go so they hung out back there. Now they really have no where to go. If I had money like that I would build a camp where they could put up a tent. Where should they go when it gets hot?? "
Watchdog wrote on May 19, 2008 1:57 AM:
" Homeless - do you realize what that entails these days. All it takes is to be upside down on your mortgage and have been unfortunate enough to have used one of those creative financing mortgage companies that tricked millions into the pay all you got now and I'll up your interest later club. There are your criminals those guys with the white shirts and ties behind the desks in the banks and mortgage companies across the land. Now you are all the way up to your neck in payments, finance charges, late fees and then comes foreclosure, you have to move, with what, on what? They've taken every penny out of your savings, they've taken every check for the last two years and now you don't own nothing but an unpaid mortgage. You can't get an apartment because you can't have the utilities turned on because you had to let them go as a last ditch effort to save your home. Is it getting ugly enough for you all yet? These people are your future homeless people, they will be lucky if they can live in their cars cause they can't make payments. "
Watchdog wrote on May 19, 2008 2:05 AM:
" So now do we turn our backs on complete families of people who have now lost their parents to death/or they are starving on retirement. They can't move in and combine incomes and make that work. So now what do we do throw them and their kids out of the parks in our nation? You know I've given this quite a lot of thought when I don't have something better to do. I have come up with a solution, let me run this by you and see what you think. There are numerous military bases closed down throughout the state, those military bases contain base housing and a commissary at one time. What say we take all the homeless throughout the state move them to these closed bases, they earn there keep by doing all the repairs, groundkeeping, we open the commissary employ homeless to work there they can use their food debit cards to purchase food, we can reopen all the schools supply the teachers and open the gas stations and hobby shop to repair automobiles. We better control costs and give people a llving. "
Watchdog wrote on May 19, 2008 2:14 AM:
" I am dead serious about this plan, the people living in the little cities can supply their own police force/security force. Open the Base Department Store and make clothing available and other special needs items. But there will be rules big harry rules get on drugs or alcohol and you are out of there. Then you have established those who need a hand from those who want continual hand outs. There is no end slowly but surely open all the services. Most bases had bowling alley's, sports arenas, theatres the sky is almost the limit. I'd darn near guarantee you it could be accomplished with fewer dollars. For those who want to go outside and work provide bus transportation for them to and from business districts and let them pay for the transportation out of what they make and like now base their part of their housing costs on their income. This could the the Welfare reform everyone is seeking so desperately. No birth certificates, driver's license proper identification, no participation. Now you've elminated the illegal immigration problem as well. Now open the Hospital and your done. "
Watchdog wrote on May 19, 2008 2:22 AM:
" Oh one small problem most of these bases are either still closed and need a lot of fixing or they are now international air ports so there is a noise problem. You take one paint brush and one hundred homes it's a lot of work, put five hundred paintbrush's in five hundred hands and it's easy. Talk about habitat for humanity, this would make that look like they hadn't even began yet. Help a community build one two homes heck with that go build and fill one hundred homes and you've done something. But the privilege of living there means you have to maintain your property and help maintain the porperty of others who for medical/physical reasons cannot. Some bases even had golf courses what awesome parks they could make for the enitre community to enjoy. Who knows you have a captivated work force who says manufacture and assembly line work couldn't be accomplished somewhere on site. You need a widget assembled well we have a preexisting building with 200 professional widget assemblers available. Talk about stimulating the economy, the month you make widgets your groceries can come out of your pocket. "
Watchdog wrote on May 19, 2008 2:30 AM:
" See give the dog any problem and he'll come back with an answer for you, just don't get much sleep solving the worlds problems. Tee Hee . . .
It gives us more control of our tax dollars for people in need that's for sure. Put back those government subsidies for excess cheese and milk and pass that along to the entire community. In case you were wondering I can think of three great possibilities right now, George Air Force Base in Victorville, San Bernardino Air Force Base and the Air Force base up by Modesto. If they have one hundred homes a piece you could house fifteen hundred homeless people no problem. Not to mention with donated supplies you could build additional housing. We haven't even started using the barracks housing for single people. Does anyone agree with this concept, or am I just dreaming at my own expense? Think about it everyone churches, organizations community action groups could all get involved with one part or all parts of this idea. For the single people one barracks women one barracks men and they be responsible for security. "
Watchdog wrote on May 19, 2008 2:36 AM:
" What better way to utilize all these structors, land and human beings than making better lives for theirselves. Key word, they work and make it happen. Those that don't want to work or don't want to follow the rulse are out of there.
You do just like in the military barracks are inspected and maintained and houses are inspected periodically as well. I've also been thinking from time to time the military retires K-9's who can't serve a combat roll anymore, but were already trained to sniff out drugs. Take them off their hands assign a trainer and their is your dope and alcohol solution. Vets who can't work a regular job could supervise and possibly create workouts and drills for the young adults and kids to participate in. You could in time as people needed less and less state money to live on afford to recruit the best teachers from all over the state. Perhaps reserve some of the Officer Housing locations for them and their families. You could even have an elected Mayor and his family and an entire City Council trade off svs. for housing. "
Watchdog wrote on May 19, 2008 2:39 AM:
" Come on get behind this and let me hear your views on the matter. Jackie maybe you can set up a blog and run with this idea of helping the homeless help theirselves. I am all for whatever gives us our best bang for our buck and helps the most people. "
Mrs.D wrote on May 19, 2008 1:06 PM:
" RE: a friend of the homeless, I don't know what we can really do for the homeless. The Holiday Lodge on South Lacey Blvd. will take them in temporarily. What we did in Imperial County is make care packages for them. All you have to do is buy some styrofoam coolers, toothbrushes&paste, deodorant, bath soap, shampoo, Kleenex, dental floss, a mini-First Aid kit, mini cans of food(ravioli, soups, fruit)something easy for them to open and eat, washcloths, and vitamin paks.
You won't be enabling the homeless; you'll be helping them. Just like God would want you to. "
Mrs. D...you are an advocate for the fool wrote on May 19, 2008 2:55 PM:
" You are a recepiant are you not of state benefits? It would behoove you to endorse as many free hand-out programs the state had to offer and cover as many bases as possible.
To stable people...it is like the city, state, country of Lost Wages for the majority of us working high tax paying U.S. citizen's.
Hey but thanks for thinking of us...in case we are ever in the perdicament of becoming lazy or get into the mindset of these situations that snowball due to low self-worth...but really are easy ways out of obligations, ie....rather drink our self silly...get behind on child support and decide living on the street...screw the old lady and kids won't get nothing...or you plain wasted your life...think an education wasn't worth the effort and partyed, covorting arounding around with the wrong crowd was more of a blast....so where is the crowd the homeless used to hang around with when life was better? "
Watchdog wrote on May 19, 2008 3:23 PM:
" To Mrs. D my plan wouldn't enable them they would make them able once agan. "
Mrs.D wrote on May 19, 2008 5:41 PM:
" RE:Mrs. D...you are an advocate for the fool, I have no clue as to what you are saying. But given you logon, I'm glad I can help you.
Watchdog, , that was tried when we tried to reform welfare. We wanted people to earn their welfare check by working somewhere or volunteering. But the usual suspect reared their heads and said that was "enforced slavery". So even though you can retrain a dog from the Army's K-9 unit, you can't retrain a former serviceman to be a janitor.
And my Catholic church had volunteers buying the materials to stuff into the styrofoam coolers. Why did we do that? It's because it's our mission in life; to make the lives of the well to do miserable. Because you have yours, the homeless had theirs but lost it. We're the ones who have ours and help others.
Mission accomplished. "
Watchdog wrote on May 19, 2008 10:41 PM:
" Mrs. D - perhaps the wrong people were in charge of the last reform. Also your Mission Accomplished statement is just as bogus as George Bush's was the only thing you accomplished was a temporary solution to make yourself feel better. You buy a person a fish dinner you have taught them nothing you teach them to fish you have given them a way to live.
I never said to make veterans janitors but I have news for you latrine duty is done by low ranking servicemen in every branch of the service so it is something a veteran can do without further instruction and training.
You think if something cannot be accomplished through the Autism Society or your Catholic Church then it can't be accomplished at all. In fact I was thinking about donating some clothes to the Catholic Church but you've changed my mind. They are women's clothes my wife has shrunk out of and I think KCOA could probably make better use of them. They are the one's with the womens shelter remember? You and your friends are not the only one's doing good in the area Thank God. "
Watchdog wrote on May 19, 2008 10:50 PM:
" Mrs. D - give a homeless person a styrofoam chest when his/her problem is alcohol, that's really clever. Why not an empty beer case or other liquor box?
Where is this homeless person with all these toiletries suppose to take advantage of them if they are homeless. On the front of peoples lawns with water hoses. Your gifts don't even make sense, give them a pillow with a pillow case, a blanket, a tent, wood for making a fire to be warm by, you weren't helping them you were helping yourself feel better. They need lives to come home to and share with other homeless people. Not little incidentials that disappear after a week or two. If you want to issue toiletries then provide showers and places they can be utilized that's like handing a raw steak to a hungry person and saying there you go, hope you enjoy it. My point for my program is if what's available on those bases is good for the military personnel then they should be plenty good enough for a homeless person. Complete with Hospital, Gas Station, Stores and all, cheaper. "
Watchdog wrote on May 19, 2008 11:01 PM:
" Here's another solution, I have been trying to figure the utilities out and I have hit on an idea. The golf course on the base could become pasture land for a herd of cows. They have developed a way to provide electrical power through the use of methane gas. You provide 1,000 gallons of milk to a processor, the processor keeps 500 gallons and returns 500 gallons to the base commissary store pastureized and bottled. Those are lose figures it could be ten times more for all that goes. You've provided at least 500 families with a gallon of milk per day make a small profit off the milk to cover the cost of the Commissary Operations. Bases are big you can grow corn, tomatos, watermelons, okra, green onions, potatos, turnips, celantro, peppers, harvest it and make it available for sale in the commissary. Cotton, citrus there is a wide variety of crops you could grow with the provision of seed, water and workers. It's called giving back, it's what our parents did when they first came to California to survive the dust bowl era. "
Watchdog wrote on May 19, 2008 11:06 PM:
" Now you have wasted land being utilized you have housing for families guaranteed milk supply to ensure the kids are taken care of a Hospital, a Commissary, Gas Station, Garage Repair Shop, all staffed and operated by members of the community who can take pride in what they do. Isn't that better than slums and projects full of drug addicts and alcoholics and Welfare Queens? They work, abide by the rules or they are out of there. They want to live like druggies in the projects send them back from whence they came. Ban them from the community and keep the gates locked. You could even set up laws that violation of the trespass law is a felony since the Government would retain ownership of the property. I don't know the more I think about it, the more chance I think it would work. "
Mrs.D wrote on May 20, 2008 1:17 PM:
" Re: Watchdog.
Good for you. Good for you. "
Bubba wrote on May 21, 2008 5:22 PM:
" To Alex, There you go stirring up the pot with your comments about homosexuals, and liberals. No one here had made a statment about that nor has anyone replied with a comment because you are way off task. But that's the way you are.
But on the subject, I don't mind them taking these bums off city property. I HATE going to the park across from Superior Dairy and smelling dope or booze. It amazes me how they can get money to buy drugs and beer but they don't have money to buy food. Any veteran has means to have himself checked out, but if he doesn't want to, then I can't help. I should know, I am a Vietnam Veteran and I work, have a family, pay taxes and vote. What I did and saw in Vietnam, I left there and those things that I carried with me until two years ago God helped me with those.
So Alex, it has nothing to do with homosexuals, liberal, progressive Democrats, or activist judges as is in the World According to Alex and more to do with pride and respect in God, family and YOURSELF.
"
Watchdog wrote on May 21, 2008 7:34 PM:
" To Bubba my brother from another mother, you are safe back in the world as we all aren't. That is my residual problem with Vietnam, we left POW brothers and sisters behind. Some people didn't come back and adapt to society, they are still back there in the 60's struggling with it all. Your fidning the Lord may be what saved you, not every lost soul out their has had that good fortune either, I was well into my 30's before I found it. Don't turn your back on them here too! We both had a better experience than they did, that's all, so don't punish them for their propencity to do what they did for so long in Vietnam. They scavanged, they didn't bathe for days on end while in the bush looking for the enemy and fighting. They lived off the land in canvas covered swamp and jungle beds, when they were lucky. Most of them used their rain gear to keep dry The one thing they could count on when they got back to camp was for it to still be. Now the authorities are taking their property. "
Watchdog wrote on May 21, 2008 7:40 PM:
" To Bubba what's that all about. Thanks for your service now move along. When I resided in Barstow they use to ship homeless people by bus from Los Angeles and other southern California communities up there to cure their homeless problems. Barstow finally opened a coed shelter to house them and help them find jobs, many of who work in fast food because they have no other skills. But they clean them up give them a job so they have a purpose because their home communities like Hanford wanted to ship them elsewhere and let someone else deal with them. The Welfare Department started shipping people on Welfare to Boron because it was still in Kern County and there was a lot of vacant housing. Plus they didn't have to deal with them coming to the Welfare Office as much. There are many solutions for the homeless, we have a lot of empty schools that get vandalized by kids, why not let the homeless sleep in the Cafeterias at night feed them a decent meal and let them handle the security. What we save on vandalism and break ins pay for it. "
Watchdog wrote on May 21, 2008 7:49 PM:
" To Bubba you could pick a High School and let them shower in the gymnasium and part of their jobs could be to sanatize it every night after utilizing it. There are many solutions that people just don't want to consider or haven't even thought of at all. They could be in shelter out of the weather, stay clean and have a nutritional meal for very little added cost to the School District. Who knows you might get some of those stores like Cost Lee, Longs Druga, Big Lots and such to kick in a few bucks to solve their problem. Then you could enter the store of your choice and spend, spend, spend.
Who knows you might even be able to find jobs for those that have the we will work for food signs? Don't trash something that is human and still has value and worth to it Bubba. The life you save might be the guy that was in a fox hole right next to you. "
Watchdog wrote on May 22, 2008 11:52 PM:
" It simply amazes me we are so quick to chant VICTORY for homosexuals who can get married. But everyone becomes alarmed to flat ticked off because a Judge says you can't throw homeless people's property away. What's next your garage is messy so now people are going to be sent out from the city to load up all your property stored in your garage in a Garbage Truck and you are suppose to like it. Come on folks these people have a dignity too, just because their choices may not always be sound, are yours? "
Bubba wrote on May 23, 2008 4:53 PM:
" We were drafted and we servered our time and like other generations of lost souls, we had to fend for ourselves. Some of us made it not only in Vietnam but also back home. the pain has been at times overpowering but I did it. As for the ones that were left back there, there's not much more I can do except pray. I have accepted my role on this earth as mortal and only as one. Simple. My role is not to save the WORLD as you seem to think not only of me but of all of us while you just sit back and come up with all these "hippie" ideas that didn't work back in 1968 and won't work in 2008. I believe that YOU need to do one of two things. Either write a book or run for mayor of Hanford and put your ideas to work. We'll see how many parents will let their daughters and sons take showers along side these security guards with mental problems. We'll also see how fast you drain the limited money Hanford has. "
Watchdog Fred wrote on May 27, 2008 6:05 AM:
" Bubba,
Wrong again dude, I survived it all too but not everyone came back packed in a nice neat package and you are right the adjustment back to civilian life was trechorous at times. But we made it, there are some brothers out there that need help that is all. I didn't say a thing about these guys showering at the same time kids were on campus. They must leave before the kids arrive in the morning and come on campus long after they have gone home in the afternoon. I am talking during sleeping hours not mid afternoon when all the kids are on the grounds.
Kitchen facilities, showers and a cot like a lot of us in the military lived. Then out and off the cot no later than 6:00 a.m. and on your way. That is what I was talking about. "
Watchdog Fred wrote on May 27, 2008 6:17 AM:
" Bubba, First the homeless, now you read the Lemoore newspaper they are starving out the seniors and telling them they can't provide them discounted meals to eat. Where does it all end, Welfare has sucked us dry the economy is finally relfecting what I said two years ago that it is going to heck in a handbasket and no one listens. Now the cutting comes and all of a sudden someone pops their head from the Ostrich hole says gee I guess our false economy is false.
If we owe anyone anything it is our senior citizens who have led the way and worked their tails off picking fruit and eventually working their ways out of the field and into the community supporting and taking care of us as children. My parents are both gone but many of you out there have parents approaching the age who need this vital support and help. It's not about a free meal the seniors pay what they can afford but it is about the fellowship being with one another. Sharing like experiences, dealing with the problems that already face them. Choosing to eat or meds? "
Watchdog Fred wrote on May 27, 2008 4:55 PM:
" Bubba; drain the money, it is far more expensive and ridiculous to waste the cops and city workers time at much higher rates of pay to deal with the homeless. Than volunteers to oversee the operation I described at like Hanford West Campus. The money drain is when you get government itself involved in dealing with the problem. This could be done with volunteers to man the cafeteria like a soup kitchen. Supervise the sanitation of the shower and other facilities. While giving the homeless a comfortable safe environment to sleep, eat and shower in. Much like we enjoy in our own homes. Those who look down on the less fortunate are sometimes doomed to become them. Those who help them are in a place to redeem lost souls and care for them, there is a big difference.
The only difference between homeless people and millions of Americans is their next pay check. With the home foreclosures, divorce is gonna rise, unemployment already is rising, children are going to be displaced along with the adults, do you still want to turn your backs on them Bubba? "
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