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Dave Hawk arrested, charged with murder

By Eiji Yamashita
eyamashita@HanfordSentinel.com

Dave Hawk was arrested Thursday afternoon in connection with the 2006 murder of ex-wife Debbie Hawk, local authorities said. Investigators from Hanford police and the Kings County District Attorney's Office took Hawk into custody shortly after 3 p.m. during a traffic stop at Grangeville Boulevard and 15th Avenue, just a block away from his Lemoore home, the Hanford Police Department reported.

Hawk, 49, was subsequently booked into Kings County Jail on one count of murder, with the special circumstances of murder for financial gain.

Police and Kings County District Attorney officials were relatively tight-lipped at a press conference this morning, basically rehashing the timeline of Debbie Hawk's 2006 disappearance and Dave Hawk's arrest on Thursday, but provided no other details on what evidence they had to arrest Dave Hawk for murder. Officials didn't answer any questions after the press conference, which lasted less than five minutes.

Although named the primary suspect by police in the disappearance and presumed homicide death of his ex-wife, Hawk had never been charged with murder until Thursday's arrest.

June 13 marks the two-year anniversary of Debbie Hawk's disappearance, in a case that has made numerous national headlines.

The 46-year-old mother of three went missing from her Hanford home nearly two years ago. Evidence collected from her house suggested she was assaulted and taken from her residence against her will. Her van was found in Fresno two days after her disappearance and her blood was found inside the van.

Dave Hawk was named as a suspect for Debbie Hawk's disappearance and presumed killing in October 2006.

Hawk was first arrested in June 2007 for unrelated charges of stealing more than $300,000 from his three children's trust funds and evading taxes on his income as well as possessing child pornography on his personal computer.

He was arraigned in March on five counts of tax fraud, three counts of embezzlement, one count of loan fraud and an additional count of perjury. These allegations against Hawk came about during an investigation into the disappearance of Debbie Hawk. Dave Hawk's trial was set for July 14, but his attorney has asked for a change of venue in the case.

Hawk was back in court on May 19, filing a motion to reclaim possessions seized from his home. A judge ruled the motion was insufficient.

Then came Thursday's arrest.

It has been a long grueling two years for Sandra Lackey, Debbie Hawk's long-time friend who has been actively involved with raising reward money to bring the case to closure.

"I am cautiously optimistic, because a lot of things could happen during trial," said Lackey, who was on her way from her home in Stanislaus County to Hanford in light of the news Thursday. "But I am hopeful that we're going down the right path. We're actually seeing the end of the tunnel."

The reporter can be reached at 583-2429.

(May 30, 2008)

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The following are comments from the readers. In no way do they represent the views of the Hanford Sentinel

Exhanfordite wrote on May 30, 2008 12:33 PM:

" Thank about this hanford... How many of us men have been through horrid divorces, and continue to go to court over money, kids ect. Several thousand men in Hanford alone im sure. So, if anything happens to our ex it was automaticaly us??? Where is the evidence??? If my ex is killed (it would probably because of her line of work ALSO) would that mean I am next on the hit list?? Also...once they try Dave Hawk with NO evidence, just a theory, THEY CAN NEVER TRY HIM AGIEN. Even if he confesses and sells a book like OJ, they cannot even get him on perjury if he does not testify. They should of waited until they found the body. Even if afterthe trial they find the body and Daves DNA and prints are all over it, there is nothing they can do "

To the ExHanfordite wrote on May 30, 2008 3:37 PM:

" I am no law expert but last time I checked the police or DA's office does not have to share their evidence with the public. Looks like the DA is not going to try the case in the press-great idea. However, that is the strategy of the defense-to taint the jury pool. Oh by the way, tainting the jury pool only costs us more money i.e. fair trial which Hawk should have=change of venue..

People in this town want to know th e"gossip" on how they arrived at arresting Hawk. How about saving it for court? Just my opinion. "

Coming From Lemoore wrote on May 30, 2008 5:01 PM:

" Its funny how the police say it was a "traffic stop" which led to his "arrest for murder", when traveling from Lemoore to Hanford I saw 10 to 14 police and unmarked cars sitting there waiting for him. Some traffic stop that was, more like a trap. "

Mr Truth wrote on May 30, 2008 5:30 PM:

" There are no coincidences.
Her Laywer was shot the day b4 their custody hearing.
He blew thru 300k of his kids moolah.
Oh my! let's whine about a traffic stop arrest! THEY DO IT SO THAT THE CHILDREN ARE NOT IN THE MIX WHEN IT HAPPENS.
I know the oldest son. He sez all the kids know daddy killed mommy.
Defend him and go to h e double hockey sticks JUST LIKE HIM!. "

to coming from Lemoore wrote on May 30, 2008 5:59 PM:

" no duh - that is what the police do they wait for the person they want to arrest to come out of their home and be in the open. It was planned - not a trap... Should they have stormed his home? "

no body no conviction wrote on May 30, 2008 6:37 PM:

" The prosecution will have to share all of their evidence with the defense, not the public. However the public has a right to sit in court and listen to the case so we will find out one way or the other. If all they (cops and DA) have is a demonstrated dislike for Hawk and no real evidence they will lose this case. Unless they have shocking new evidence they should have waited for the body which would hopefully provide some physical evidence linking him to the crime. Also, if he did kill her, I don't think he acted alone. "

get real wrote on May 30, 2008 6:45 PM:

" All they were saying is that is how they came to arrest him...a traffic stop opposed to at his home etc.. I'm sure they were looking for him when they stopped him. A trap...sounds like a reasonable way to apprehend a murder suspect. "

ex citizen wrote on May 30, 2008 7:05 PM:

" why didn't they use the 250 officers that they used on those so called biker's a few years ago. Also , this will be tried in the press , believe me. "

traffic stop wrote on May 30, 2008 7:21 PM:

" Knowing our police, I'm sure they wrote him a parking ticket after they pulled him over and towed and impounded his car. "

Mrs.D wrote on May 30, 2008 8:16 PM:

" RE:Coming From Lemoore, You can't trap a suspect. And since he was using a public road that has plenty of cars traveling on it daily, there's a lot of traffic, thus making it a traffic stop. "

To Coming From Lemoore wrote on May 30, 2008 9:11 PM:

" You saw all those cars after the traffic stop and what is the matter with a trap anyway? "

Oh Brother wrote on May 30, 2008 10:28 PM:

" 5/30/2008 2:38 p.m.: Kings County prosecutors admitted this afternoon that they had no new evidence against Dave Hawk in the disappearance and presumed murder of his ex-wife, Debbie Hawk. "

Outtatowner wrote on May 31, 2008 12:00 AM:

" I don't think "Coming from Lemoore" is defending Hawk. He's just questioning the characterization of the arrest. Traffic stop implies that they pulled him over for a moving violation and subsequently arrested him. I think "Coming from Lemoore" shared some interesting information that many of us wouldn't have known otherwise. "

KB wrote on May 31, 2008 12:00 AM:

" As a local Retail Business Manager for the last 15 years I have been following this "Missing Person" tragedy from day 1. I know many folks from Kings County Law Enforcement and quite a few from the Hawk Family and Friends. In my line of work I have the Liberty of opening a conversation without offering a opinion and Listen to what the Community has to say. I think it will be real hard trial for the Jury members. The thing that has me thinking is a few days after Dave asked for certain item to be returned he was arrested. "

random violence does happen wrote on May 31, 2008 1:52 PM:

" There have been more than a few cases in this valley of simple random violence. Hawk is the truly most obvious suspect, but just having motive does not prove he is the killer. Also, the "traffic stop" wording did imply they pulled him over for speeding or something else then arrested him. Why won't the cops just say what they are doing like "To avoid any possibility of a confrontation at his house we decided to arrest him by traffic stop". It was a trap since they were waiting for him and you can trap someone by simply blocking off the road in both directions. It was actually a good way for them to arrest him, but why mis-state what they were doing? Kudos on avoiding a big shootout at his house. Now prove the case with some evidence and not just a personal dislike for him. "

Stopping wrote on May 31, 2008 2:36 PM:

" Stop occur prior to the home. The last thing an officer wants is for someone to get home and have access to what they have in the home to use against you, i.e. gun, kitchen knives, aerosols, shovels, broom handles, etc. Don't complaint about traffic stops, SWAT could have had to be brought in. Saves time and money.

As for evidence, it's not all out there and it doesn't have to be out there. Traffic stops don't lead to murder charges, violations lead to traffic stops.
Having preponderance of the evidence leads to charges and no body no crime is very old school and not accurate. For example, with the amount of blood loss at the scene, investigators can tell if the person could have survived such a loss. All it takes is evidence, direct, circumstantial or both to convict (and a willing and open non-biased jury). "

Dear KB the whiners wrote on May 31, 2008 6:46 PM:

" The defense had asked for his items to be returned previously as well. There is so much that the public does not know. And frankly, we are all on a need to know basis. If you don't like the way your city or county is run, then run for office and make a change. Until then, stop acting like you can do a better job than anyone else and that you're the victims. I'm sick of bitter divorced men taking the side of someone they don't even know. This is not your trial. Let the authorities and lawyers do their jobs. If you keep whining here, you're only helping the prosecution's case. Enough already. Go get a job! "

Boyce Duprey wrote on Jun 1, 2008 12:21 AM:

" He won't be convicted. Seems (right now) there's not enough evidence. I reckon HPD are hoping for a sympathy verdict. "

no body no crime wrote on Jun 1, 2008 12:42 AM:

" They do not need to find the body to have a crime or to prove a crime, but the fact that they did not find the body and all the evidence finding a body would provide, the prosecution's case is much much weaker. The blood, missing person, etc., is probably enough to prove a crime, but it does not prove at all Hawk did it. If you had a body you would have all the "CSI" type evidence and a specific location besides the house to try and link Hawk to. If all they have is motive and no direct evidence I don't see how you get a guilty verdict. Also, please don't bring up his DNA at her residence or her DNA at his, that proves nothing. If they have some blood at his home or in his car or on his clothes, or some of his DNA in her van mixed with some blood then maybe you have something. I think the jury will want to convict him, but the DA will need to give them something more than a cute story and no real evidence. No body, tough trial. "

fair trial wrote on Jun 1, 2008 12:49 AM:

" "Bitter divorced men" are probably bitter for a reason. All I have read here are "bitter divorced men" hoping he has a fair trial and asking for a little more evidence than the fact that they were divorced and not getting along since she would not leave him alone. Did he do it? Probably, but prove it in court not in the press. "

Hey..where is the article that ran yesterday wrote on Jun 1, 2008 7:01 AM:

" I guess the family didn't like the public statments that many had that the trial could turn out to be OJ like in its outcome. "

Last Article wrote on Jun 1, 2008 8:31 AM:

" The article is listed under Not Guilty Plea "

Politics Again wrote on Jun 1, 2008 9:15 AM:

" Plenty of cases and defendants have been charged and convicted because of politics, but 10 - 15 years later the cases are overturned because of DNA evidence or recanting wits. Cops and DAs need a Defendant and will do anything to get a conviction. "

To Outtatowner wrote on Jun 1, 2008 11:43 AM:

" You don't have a clue about law enforcement do you? Not all traffic stops have to do with moving violations. Probable cause, enough said.... "

Ms Exhanfordite wrote on Jun 1, 2008 1:31 PM:

" Someone cannot be tried twice for the same crime, but a civil suit would bring some justice if he is brought to trial. Crime stats show that people are robbed, bodily harmed in most cases by thier significant other or someone they know...

I doubt Kings county D.A. are going to try him with NO evidence to support it. "

To Miss ExHanfordite wrote on Jun 2, 2008 12:25 PM:

" Yes, the DA will try him with not enough evidence. And he was arrested knowing that there was not enough evidence. The Police in Hanford only know how to give tickets to soccer moms in vans and ignore giving assistance when it is needed.

Dave Hawk is going to be found innocent after millions of dollars are spent in a pointless trial. The inertia of a function of government has begun and will occupy the minds of the people in this area taking away from the obvious misuse of government power and corruption. A circus of modern day abuse of governmental power. "

Coming From Lemoore wrote on Jun 3, 2008 11:07 AM:

" (to coming from lemoore) from Coming From Lemoore....yes it was a trap and thats what I said, my comment was that the police said it was a "traffic stop"......it wasn't- it was a trap!!! If they felt that they had the evidence to arrest him for her murder then the should have "stormed the house" and call it just that, dont try to cover up what they did by calling it a "traffic stop". And to all the others who commentted if they were SITTING there waiting for him then it wasn't a TRAFFIC stop...... it was a trap to get him, fine.....but call it what it was......people get stopped daily from traffic stops, doesnt mean that they are guilty of murder......... "

Coming From Lemoore wrote on Jun 3, 2008 11:11 AM:

" To Outtatower..... Thank you for understanding my point.....that was all I was trying to say "

To Mr.Truth wrote on Jun 3, 2008 11:15 AM:

" How are the children in the mix???? Didnt it say that the children are with relatives...... "

Upset in Lemoore wrote on Jun 5, 2008 6:17 AM:

" Oh my God!! Where is everyone's head? I really doubt that they would of arrested him without any evidence. Is everyone out there feeling sorry for him? He brought all of this on himself. He has admitted to taking money from his kids by saying that it was his family's money that was put into the accounts all they while smiling about it. I believe that the DA office does have the evidence and we all will see in do time. Lets just sit back and let them do their jobs and stop trying to defend his actions. "

LocalGal wrote on Jun 5, 2008 11:34 AM:

" I just think that it is sad-no matter how you look at it. His son in graduating tonight and his now dad is jail for the murder of his mother.

I am just proud of Conrad and the WONDERFUL man that he is. I wish him well as he heads off to college in a few weeks and thank the Dodd family for giving him the loving support that he needed for all of this mess! "

To Exhanfordite wrote on Jun 5, 2008 2:55 PM:

" With 'no fault' divorce laws in this state, men are not the only ones who are getting stiffed. Personally, I feel that when they charge Dave Hawk, they should also charge the California divorce laws ,as those laws are a contributing factor. "

To Local Gal wrote on Jun 5, 2008 10:36 PM:

" Thank You for thinking of Conrad is was one of the top of his class as cheering for him as Debbie would have she would be so proud of him ..
And yes a big Thank You to the family to take him in a give him a peaceful life without such drama...
God Bless you Conrad and may you have a peaceful life and remember your mom is by your side smiling at you and so many of us watch and cheered for you also..
May your angels stay by you and God Blessings be rich and great job on winning at senior morning... "

exhanfordite wrote on Jun 6, 2008 9:21 AM:

" Thanks for your response and support, but the charge towards CA laws would in fact be just if davied snapped under the presure and did it, but the facts and evidence in the case proves just the opp. He didnt do it. I just hope that HPD does the right thing and turns over ALL evidence to DF cousel. They are allready pushing it by arresting an innocent man. In the past there tackics have been in question. Lets see if they leave themself open if there is a conviction by withholding investigation information. As in Timothy McVay. FBI withheld 10000 pages. He was on death row. In a interview after trial, he admited to his guilt. If he would not of admited, the murder would have walked after the witholding of evidence. Dave did not do this, and back to my origional point, its not always the husband. And to the issue of the KIDS money, who ever is in charge of the estate can withdraw money to provide for the kids, as an example, pay ALL of the rent, groceries, buy a boat to take kids to lake, etc. "

DannyD wrote on Jun 6, 2008 10:29 AM:

" Yes, if there is any question on an estate, it is who set up the estate and picked the person to over see it. If money was put in a trust, Dave placed as "incharge with acess" he could pull out all of the money needed to provide for them as HE saw fit. That includes buying a house, a bigger car, more room for the kids, a boat or trip or college or a new house whatever. If Dave had acess and Debbie didnt, there was a reason for it...hmmmm... And as far as taxes go, he did not have to pay taxes on the money, he was buying for his kids, and it was not his money, it was there estate. But, every body wants to hang Dave for what is usually done with a trust fund, if not placed in corporate care. So, the leason of the story...place a trust with a corporation and pay them to oversee. There are many co like this. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 6, 2008 2:00 PM:

" exhanfordite - danny d, that money was put in to trust for a specific purpose and that was the education of his children. His son just graduated High School according to one of the other bloggers so where does he go to get his 300K back to attend college next fall? Also according to that blogger his son hasn't been staying with Dave Hawk so how did he benefit from a boat, new car or new house? You are using pure speculation as to what you would do had you had access to the funds and you would be on trial yourself had you done what he did.

Was obtaining a fraudulant loan in the best interest of his children and in compliance with the trust as well? He may be the named trustee but he is limited on what he can or can't spend funds for in this case.

The money if taken out of trust for any other reason is taxable according to federal and state law. So I think you better go back and take your banking and acounting classes all over again. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 6, 2008 2:12 PM:

" exhanfordite - danny d, he is also been charged with first degree murder with extenuating circumstances for profit. That entails the recovery of the trust, plus the motive of child support, alimony etc., etc., etc. involved in the divorce that was due to go to court the week after Debbie Hawk's disappearance. That does not mean that those items still won't be mitigated on her behalf.

Fresno Police Department still hasn't solved the case of the attempted murder charges against whoever shot Debbie Hawk's attorney during that same time frame either. Supposition, 300k can buy a lot of things in that community. Meaning if you can presume him innocent then there are those of us who also may assume he is guilty.

The timeline, the attempt on her attorney's life, her disappearance, the pending court date all adds up to a man with a motive to make his wife disappear.

That is not jumping the gun that is not overlooking the evidence that is a part of the evidence in this case. If I had to present a case I would choose the prosecution over the defense aspect. "

Exhanfordite wrote on Jun 6, 2008 4:14 PM:

" If my ex or her lawyer would have been shot in a RX robbery or other act of violents, I would be in Jail to, based on same B.S. circumstance. Would I have done it?? NO, would I still be in jail and there would be NO evidence showing I did it..YES.... Will Dave walk even he did it or not...YES. There is no evidence of THAT CRIME that points to Dave. Points to other directions...NORTH..Yes "

Exhanfordite wrote on Jun 6, 2008 4:16 PM:

" and PS...Without Evidence even being laid out in the media..I will place a $5000 bet he walks...anyone want to put there money where there mouth is??? "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 6, 2008 7:04 PM:

" To Exhanfordite no one could ever convict you of violence you don't even know how to spell it.
Not every divorce was/is as nasty as yours and Dave's so I really would wish you wouldn't spout so much venom and hate.

Yyou keep throwing your money around wanting to pay for Dave's Defense Lawyer, bet on his innocence is that your money or Dave's kids money you are throwing around? Not only that but you better be careful if your wife's attorney finds out you have that kind of money laying around they will surely raise child support and alimony on you at the very least.

I know this may not make sense to you but your wife probably knows the words you misspell better than you do, or you wouldn't keep mispelling them, so she could figure out it is you and take you back to court.

You keep pointing to the north does that mean the accused might not have used some of that money from the kids to hire someone?

Murder in the First Degree, yeah that's what I'd do if I didn't have a case. "

plea bargain wrote on Jun 6, 2008 10:39 PM:

" Prosecutors often charge a defendant with more than they can prove to better support a plea bargain. From the evidence that I at least know of this is going to be a very hard case to prove in court. There are home invasion robberies, car jackings, car thefts, and on and on. We live in a sick violent society and even though Hawk is the most likely suspect right now, it does not prove he is guilty. I'm sticking to what I've been saying, the prosecution should have waited to find the body first instead of risking the entire case by rushing it right now. If he did it he deserves to be punished, but either way he deserves a fair trial. Big trust funds must be nice and I don't know what his kids will do now. Heaven forbid they get a job or school loan and pay some of their own way through college. I bet PD and Fred are complaining the most about that money. I bet the kids would trade all the trust fund money in the world to have their mom back. "

exhanfordite wrote on Jun 6, 2008 11:44 PM:

" WOW... every thing has to have an evil tant...if one does not agree..it must be evil and in on the crime...if one has money...it must be the evil money taken from the children.. how could one expect to get a fair trail in Kings county on this case??? you cant. You have just more then proven why this will be moved to the bay area and why Dave will walk. A one set mind who has already made him guilty until proven other wise. As to the north comment, you really dont know a thing about this case if you do not know what that means. And yes...in a rush between work, i have misspelled a word or two, and Fred, "You" has one "y", not two, check you own spelling and dont be so fast at pointing a finger. But wait, you must be used to that if you are a "DA", pointing a finger at who ever, putting an innocent man in jail, just so long as you get your feather in your cap, and mabey a promotin in your civil service job. Its all youve got. "

exhanfordite wrote on Jun 6, 2008 11:56 PM:

" and one more thing....why could you not cut it in the business world??? Why would you rather try a man in the media and do your very best to paint him guilty before trial??? No evidence?? I have way over 300k solid cash, does that mean I am guilty of murder or can arrested and say " he must of did, he has the money" If you have such a money hang up, get off your bottom, and go make some. I can give you case over case were another person was killed over or for less the $100. There are people in this county right now on trial for stealing over $500,000 and there bail was ZERO. Mabey she killed her??? I hear they knew each other, mabey one was seeing the others special someone?? Mabey it was the other guy who slapped his wife?? Flip a coin, pick a person, with your style of law, you could pin it on any of them. You just so happened to pick the one that was innocent. And yes, the 5k is my cash, and I didnt see you taking the bet "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 7, 2008 6:44 AM:

" To exhanfordite, well we won't even get into your spelling again the blog readers can catch those infantile mistakes on their own. Sounds to me as if someone here has more money than sense. It also sounds like there just might be some guilt involved for past behavior as well. You quickly mentioned slapping in the face, which didn't surprise me in the least. Other than to hear you even admit it possilbe.
According to you every woman is a floozie and out to get your money. I can only say I am glad one did perhaps some good will come of your riches after all. It won't be spent on frivolous bets and inane court battles.
You are probably right he will get a change of venue however, like Scott P. I don't think that will mean a chain of outcome. Remember him he was the last innocent man sent to death row? They tried him up north too, remember?
Everyone said there wasn't evidence in that case too. Just because the Hanford Police haven't found a body doesn't mean they won't. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 7, 2008 6:55 AM:

" To exhanfordite, oh here is a tidbit for you too. Scott P. the one setting on death row that you and all the other bitter fathers knew was innocent. Well Lacy's mother brought a civil suit against him and it is just now going to trial. You might want to watch how that plays out too, for future reference.

Somehow I see you driving to work with your laptop setting next to you driving your vette and smoking two packs of cigarettes an hour. Tell me I'm wrong.

I earned my money and my working days are over, unlike you I didn't emass great wealth but it wasn't because I wasn't a hard worker. Hard workers don't emass wealth it is usually a spoiled brat who inherits it from his father who inherited it from his father. Well you get the picture.

By up north are you talking about Fresno, if you are so knowledgeable about that maybe a conversation with HPD is in order. They will put you in the witness protection program, or is this just part of the smoke screen you keep hoping we will buy? "

exhardfordite wrote on Jun 7, 2008 10:42 AM:

" " And....Justice for Debbie does not include a witch hunt..No evidence...no body... no conviction... And the evidence that is there points not toward Dave, but continue with your witch hunt. and to Fred..if you did ever make it to law school, the first thing you would learn is a little Latin..Satius est impunitum relinqui facinus nocentis, quam innocentem damnari - It is better that a crime is left unpunished than that an innocent man is punished. (Corpus Iuris Civilis)" "

exhandfordite wrote on Jun 8, 2008 12:17 AM:

" In ref. to the Scott P. case: every clinical indicator was there from the very begining, before Amber appeared on the screen. Also, not to mention, physical evidence: Hair in pliers, blood evidence, pc computer evidence, lies about time frame, body still floated up at the place he stated he was at, not to mention every the whole Amber "Im single thing". Big difference between a guy that didnt even have the round ones to get a divorce, and a guy who did. My biggest concern is the RX link in the Hawk case. I have seen absolute horride events happen in this world because of addiction, the incident with Debbie would be nothing out of the norm of that lifestyle. and Fred your working days are over??? I thought in your previous blog your were trying a big case and cant take Daves case at this time??? Im sorry, did I step on your full time blog time with a little comon sense??? Prove me wrong about this case and I will be the first to admit I was wrong. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:38 AM:

" To exhanfordite - how dare you insult me like that suppose that I might even consider being an attorney. Sir, I cannot lie cheat and compete with those lost souls, nor would I ever want to.
As for your evidence points, you are correct but this case has not traveled the distance nor had the evidence presented publicly yet. I ask you be pacient and allow the facts to come out, prior to your foredrawn conclusion of innocence. Did the boat evidence and pliers evidence come out in trial proceedings, I don't recall that coming out pre-trial? Weren't there several searches conducted by the Police even during the trial, I believe there were. In fact didn't Lacy's family retrieve some of Lacy and Connor's personal property while Scott was incarcerated; during the trial? This is only the beginning of what could be a very long and drawn out trial, wonder how much defense budget is there for the accused to use, he doesn't seem to be a spend thrift? I don't see any notorious attorney's from LA rushing up here to provide a defense for him. Let the trial begin! "

Exhanfordite wrote on Jun 9, 2008 3:39 PM:

" Fred: First off, what is " pacient ", this was mentioned in the post directed to me. Second, I have no problem with waitiing until evidence comes out, that was my whole point from the start, innocent until proven other wise and not even one bit of evidence to raise an eyebrow. Yourself and others were the first to point a finger and slander a man. Practice what you preach, thats what started this whole conversation. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 12, 2008 7:55 AM:

" Exhanfrodite - hurry you better run right down here real fast with your checkbook the accused is running out of money. They are foreclosing on his house. Come on money making big mouth put your money and support where your mouth has been these last few weeks. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 12, 2008 8:03 AM:

" To Exclusively Exhanfordite - gee I guess it was a typo like you made in the word waiting you added an extra i in the iing. Mistakes happen just like your mistake of perpetuating a facade about someone's innocence until proven guilty. Once Debbie disappeared his presumptions of innocence flew out the window. Oh by the way interesting turn of events.

He had $300k and didn't pay off his house with it, no one can account for it, gee wonder what he might have done or paid someone with all that money? I would think anyone with 300k available would have paid 200k off on their home and done away with the mortgage.

Then his children would at least have a house to sell to recoup some of that money missing from their trust account. "

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