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Stop complaining!

Editor: Stop complaining about high gasoline prices, for the good of California! If it wasn't for President Clinton using his veto pen in 1995 to veto legislation authorizing drilling in ANWAR, and if it wasn't for the Democrats in Congress and the Senate blocking every effort to allow drilling, prices could be down $2 per gallon and that would reduce the amount of sales tax collected by our state.

California collects $5 billion a year in sales tax on gasoline now and if that is reduced, how will we survive?

Since the Democrats took over the Congress and the Senate a year and a half ago gas prices have doubled, so they're doing a fine job for us. There's a bumper sticker circulating saying "Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less," but there needs to be one saying "Vote Democrat, Don't Drill, Pay More" if you care about the Golden State.

Skip Athey

Hanford

(June 20, 2008)

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The following are comments from the readers. In no way do they represent the views of the Hanford Sentinel

The anti right winger wrote on Jun 20, 2008 10:49 AM:

" Oil companies current have 63,000 sq miles of leases in the Gulf of Mexico that they have yet to drill a single test well on. If they are failing to utilize the public lands they already have why should we allow them more? In addition Mr. Athey makes the claim that gas would be $2.00 per gallon cheaper if only ANWR and the Pacific coast allowed drilling for oil. The price per barrel for oil is set by commodity trading and while there currently is no shortage of oil on world markets the price is at an all time high. If you want to find the real culprit look to the value of the US dollar. Five years of war without a tax increase to pay for it has left the US 5 trillion dollars in debt.
President Bush has paid for this war by selling bonds to the Chinese who have been flooding the world bond market with our debt making the dollar weaker and our country less secure. In the 1990's the Canadian dollar was worth about 65 cents US and gas was $2,00 per gallon. Today it is even with our dollar and gas is $4.00. "

jeff wrote on Jun 20, 2008 2:07 PM:

" In 1990 George H.W. Bush banned coastal oil exploration and offshore drilling. But you’re right it wasn’t his fault it was Clinton’s and the current Democratic congress that gas is so expensive. The US has maybe 30 years of oil reserves anyways and the drilling ban is 27 years old. If we had been drilling this entire time we would be almost completely out of oil by today. Why don’t people think before they talk or in this case write?
From the CIA World Factbook entry for the United States
Oil - production: 8.322 million bbl/day (2005 est.)
Oil - consumption: 20.8 million bbl/day (2005 est.)
Oil - exports: 1.048 million bbl/day (2004)
Oil - imports: 13.15 million bbl/day (2004)
Oil - proved reserves: 21.76 billion bbl (1 January 2006 est.) "

ALEJANDRO wrote on Jun 20, 2008 4:25 PM:

" Yep, the liberal progressive Democratic Greek Chorus responds again and again, chanting: "its George Bushes fault,"

But what about this fact:

"Since the Democrats took over the Congress and the Senate a year and a half ago gas prices have doubled, so they're doing a fine job for us.."

Democrats in charge, look what happens.

Oh, yes: What solutions will the vastly experienced lawyer, author, and freshman senator Obama bring us when he is President?

Tell us HIS plan for recovery, good bloggers! "

jeff wrote on Jun 21, 2008 11:15 PM:

" Alejandro, since you do not understand the oil market you shouldn’t speak about it. The prices would have doubled no matter who was holding any political office for the past 1 and a half years. Congress – Republican or Democrat – has no authority over the price of oil. As for the rest of your comment where did I ever say (Or chant) it was George Bush’s fault? Please try and comprehend what you read. "

Dandre wrote on Jun 22, 2008 10:22 AM:

" The problem is not access and the 'dittoheads' expose their ignorance by spouting the 'big lie' yet again.....rush limbaugh and a pint of whiskey don't make you smart...LOL "

The Anti Right Winger wrote on Jun 22, 2008 1:05 PM:

" ALEJANDRO wrote "What solutions will the vastly experienced lawyer, author, and freshman senator Obama bring us when he is President?"

Since you asked:

1) Fully Close the “Enron Loophole”: One of the reasons our energy market is particularly vulnerable to excessive speculation is the so-called “Enron Loophole” … [which means] Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) is unable to fully oversee the oil futures market and investigate cases where excessive speculation may be driving up oil prices.

2) Ensure That U.S. Energy Futures Cannot be Traded on Unregulated Offshore Exchanges: CFTC oversight of oil market speculation is also limited by rules that allow energy traders to engage in unregulated transactions through foreign subsidiaries of U.S. exchanges.

3) Work with Other Countries to Coordinate Regulation of Oil Futures Markets.

4) Call on the Federal Trade Commission and Department of Justice to Vigorously Investigate Market Manipulation in Oil Futures.

This is same type of manipulation that effected electricity markets a few years ago. There is no shortage of oil and unregulated futures trading is driving up prices. This fact coupled with our weaker dollar is the real reason for our $4.00+ per gallon. "

Dandre wrote on Jun 22, 2008 1:44 PM:

" The biggest immediate solution is to close the 'Enron loophole'
Any drilling started right now would have no effect for at least 2 years, possibly up to 10 years.... and if ANWAR was the answer why didnt the republican controlled congress and exec get 'er done when they had the chance?
Easy answer- its worth more as a election issue!

bahhhhhhh! bahhhhhh! "

ALEJANDRO wrote on Jun 24, 2008 5:21 PM:

" Well now, pilgrims, time to go back to school.

Question 1: "Who passed the act containing the Enron Loophole/"

answer: -US CONGRESS (Democrats included)

and

Question 2: Who COULD HAVE VETOED the bill but DID NOT?

answer: - President Bill Clinton

see The "Enron Loophole"
Main article: Enron Loophole
"The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 or CFMA (Public Law 106–554, §1(a)(5) [H.R. 5660], December 21, 2000, 114 Stat. 2763, 2763A–365, 7 U.S.C. § 1), was passed by the United States Congress and signed by President Bill Clinton in December 2000 in large part to allow for the creation of U.S. exchanges for the listing of a new sort of derivative security, the single-stock future."

(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000)

Skip Athey is 100% correct in his commentary, especially when he said:

"Since the Democrats took over the Congress and the Senate a year and a half ago gas prices have doubled, so they're doing a fine job for us."

No more liberal Democrat excuses! "

Dandre wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:24 PM:

" § Enron spent $3.45 million in lobbying expenses in 1999 and 2000 to deregulate the trading of energy futures, among other issues.

§ In December 2000, Phil Gramm helped muscle a bill through Congress without a committee hearing that deregulated energy commodity trading. This act allowed Enron to operate an unregulated power auction -- EnronOnline -- that quickly gained control over a significant share of California's electricity and natural gas market.

§ Phil Gramm's legislation was in conflict with the explicit recommendations of the (Bill Clinton’s)President's Working Group on Financial Markets, which is composed of representatives from the Department of Treasury, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. The Working group expressly recommended against deregulating energy commodity trading because the traders would be in strong positions to manipulate prices and supply. " "

Dandre wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:29 PM:

" From June 2000 through December 2000 -- prior to the bill's passage -- California experienced price spikes but only one Stage 3 emergency ("rolling blackouts"). After passage of Gramm's energy commodity deregulation bill in December 2000, Stage 3 emergencies increased from one to 38 until federal regulators helped end the crisis, imposing price controls in June 2001. Phil Gramm's legislation, for which Enron was the primary lobbyist, allowed Enron's unregulated energy trading to manipulate supply in a way as to threaten millions of California households and businesses with power outages for the sole purpose of increasing the company's profits.

Because of Enron's new, unregulated power auction, their "Wholesale Services" revenues quadrupled -- from $12 billion in the first quarter of 2000 to $48.4 billion in the first quarter of 2001. This remarkable revenue increase came on top of the record revenue gain that Enron posted from 1999 to 2000, when full-year "Wholesale Services" revenues increased from $35.5 billion to $93.3 billion -- a 163 percent increase.

§ Investigations by state and federal officials concluded that power generators and power marketers intentionally withheld electricity, creating artificial shortages in order to increase the cost of power. " "

Dandre wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:30 PM:

" Enron took advantage of lax oversight following deregulation and formed a complicated web of more than 2,800 subsidiaries -- more than 30 percent (874) of which were located in officially designated offshore tax and bank havens.

§ President Bush's presidential campaign received significant financial support from Enron ($1.14 million).

§ Upon assuming office in 2001, Bush promptly scrapped plans put into place by former President Bill Clinton to significantly limit the effectiveness of these countries as tax and bank regulation havens. This action came at the height of high West Coast energy prices, probably allowing Enron to siphon billions to its offshore accounts.

§ At the same time, the Bush administration and certain members of Congress waged a legislative and public relations campaign against the imposition of federal price controls in the Western electricity market. Such price controls remove the ability of companies exercising significant market share to price-gouge by effectively re-regulating the market. Bush's opposition to price controls unnecessarily extended the California energy crisis and cost the state billions of dollars. " "

Dandre wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:31 PM:

" The Gramms' close involvement with Enron's corporate and legislative activities, the Gramms' possible knowledge and/or connection to criminal misconduct relating to Enron's collapse, and the effects of Enron's layoffs and other economic impacts on Senator Gramm's constituents may have been the leading factor in Gramm's decision on September 4 not to seek re-election to the Senate in 2002. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:07 PM:

" Jeff - I think you need to show a little more discipline and manners when responding to commentators here in these blogs. Alejandro's comments unlike this one of mine was not directed at you it was a response to comments many of you through out to everyone. So just please show some respect and try not to scold other bloggers on here, that isn't what this forum is all about if you will take time to read the ground rules. Click on the terms of use and rules of the road and you just might get an education on how things work on here.
I get a little involved in my comments as well but I try to avoid scolding and confrontational comments. Alejandro has every right guaranteed to him under the Constitution and within the guidelines of this blogging network to say what he wishes. It is up to the Moderators to enforce that not you. The 1st Amendment gives him that right as it does me and as it does you. But we don't have to be disrespectful in the process. "

star wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:11 PM:

" You need to do more research on this. Gas was below $2.00 a gallon when Clinton left office. It has gone to extreme with Bush in office. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:12 PM:

" This is out to everyone not specifically to anyone: Do you have any idea how many wells have been drilled and capped in the Coalinga area alone. Chevron has wells over there they have found and capped just waiting for a chance like this to pump the oil out and make historic profits off of and that is why the price isn't coming down. We have started to conserve oil and aren't paying outrageous prices for fuel to go to the coast and spend more on fuel than on a room and meals. This trend is developing more and more. Stations all over town now have brought back that old concept of a cash price and a charge price, yet if I use an atm debit card I am considered a charge customer when I use it anywhere else it is as good as cash. Why? Are the oil companies not getting their landmark profits fast enough through credit they have to charge more for it. One more way of falsely driving up the cost. You Gasoline credit card holders out there start cutting up those credit cards. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:18 PM:

" We should all band together and pick one day in the week and agree not to buy any gasoline on that particular day, a month or so of that and I guarantee you prices will come down. If those jobbers have to go four or five days a month with everything going out and nothing coming in they will lower the prices to get that money coming back in, in any form they can get it. Another idea is switch it up on them, if you have been buying gas the same place for a long period of time, go somewhere else for a month or two and put pressure on them to lower the price. Remember when that gasoline sets in those tanks it isn't being delivered by the major oil companies and before you know it one is setting there with no money and the natural response is to do whatever they can to get your business back. Cut up your credit cards and send them in to the company they just raise your price 10 cents a gallon to use it, do you owe them anything? No you don't. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:30 PM:

" You know every other supply and demand item in this country responds strongly to a boycott. On top of the suggestion I already made set it out two out of four weekends a month, don't drive long distance and don't burn gas if you can avoid it. Your loyalty to the oil companies all these years is being paid back to you in the form of a higher price at the gas pump for using their credit card and supporting their financial facility. Be a smart consumer take one of your other credit cards get cash on it pay cash for your gas and pay it off at the end of the month like you do your gas card and cut the gas card up and write the oil company a letter and explain you are returning the card because you feel your loyalty has been rewarded by higher prices at the pump. They lose enough charge accounts and they'll come begging for your business. Another solution is to replace your gas card with an American Express card that must be paid every month. You get broader useage for the same price. "

question wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:32 PM:

" Here's my $0.02. I don't care if it is the liberal Democrat's fault or George Bush's fault! These gas prices are ridiculous and need to be fixed. We don't need people sitting around pointing fingers, we need solutions. "

Jack frost wrote on Jun 25, 2008 12:45 AM:

" clearly you are not seeing the big picture do something about it. Do you really think writing a blog on the Hanford sentinel is going to make a big difference. I can clearly read you people know what you are talking about but what are you doing. Your like the rest of us paying just as much as the person next to you. Do something about it because if you don't you have to come to the realization that you have to live with. "

Logic wrote on Jun 25, 2008 7:43 AM:

" Let's look at the history of oil price jumps:

Cause: War
Cause: OPEC cutting production
Cause: Crazy South American dictator runs mouth

Supply is not down. Demand hasn't skyrocketed. Those are the driving factors being basic market pricing. However, we are dealing with a market that is not driven by supply and demand. It's driven by speculation. "

jeff wrote on Jun 25, 2008 9:19 AM:

" Alejandro, you’re really failing yourself here. This is not a Democrat versus Republican issue. Most things these days aren’t, that’s just what they want you to believe. You would be better off if you stopped trying to argue an ‘us against them’ argument. What does your post even mean exactly, what is it you’re trying to say? They are all politicians; there isn’t much difference between them when you really look. The only reason I posted anything about Bush was because the author of this article - like you - is under the impression that Republicans will save our country. If you really believe this you have the wool pulled way over your head. I’ve said it many times before, just because one politician does something stupid or evil in the past does not mean it’s ok for another politician in a different party to do it now. This is not an excuse. "

Paul wrote on Jun 25, 2008 9:24 AM:

" It doesn't matter who is in office but one day we will run out of OIL. Simple fact.
What we need to do is get off the oil addiction we have and think of other ways to get around. Prices will only get higher folks and as supplies dwindle down to a precious barrels a day, prices will only get higher.
Gas in Germany is over $8 a gallon. I wonder who they blame. "

jeff wrote on Jun 25, 2008 9:26 AM:

" Alejandro, Skip Athey is 100% wrong when he said that. Again you apparently do not understand how the oil market works. Congress has no control over the prices we are seeing. Republican or Democrat this would have happened. Stop walking around in the dark and educate yourself. "

The Anti Right Winger wrote on Jun 25, 2008 9:47 AM:

" Alejandro you rightfully blame loopholes in The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 which allow Enron type predatory speculation and manipulation for $4.00 per gallon gas. I for one welcome your support for the Obama position that commodity futures trading without government regulation is always a bad deal for consumers and creates more problems than it solves. This type of price manipulation has a negative affect on all Americans. The economic pain it causes does not discriminate against those on the right or left of the political spectrum. Bill Clinton signed this flawed legislation into law after it was passed by the Republican controlled congress. President Bush over the last eight years along with other GOP members consistently failed to offer any alternatives.
They continued to turn a blind eye even after evidence clearly showed that companies like Enron were using the lack of oversight to manipulate energy rates. Their silence allowed energy traders to plunder consumer's wallets through artificially high utility rates. Since these prices are being driven by market manipulation and not supply shortages, additional oil drilling will make no difference in the short term. "

Con Carne wrote on Jun 25, 2008 11:44 AM:

" SUPPLY and DEMAND determines gas prices. Think about that next time you fire up your piece of driveway candy. It doesn't matter who gets elected, the price will never go any lower than around $3.50. Bottom line, American culture needs to shift away from our love affair with the automobile. I for one and going to start riding a bike for short trips around town. "

Refreshing wrote on Jun 25, 2008 11:55 AM:

" Good job Skip. I was really getting tired of all those gay weddding blogs. This is a refreshing change of pace. "

Then Who wrote on Jun 25, 2008 1:55 PM:

" I once held a job where I had to take over for the previous manager. The previous manager messed many things up, I tried to fix as many as possible and basically blaming the previous manager for all the problems and this excuse was good for about a year, now if I try to use the excuse that the former manager is to blame I would be let go. "

Hmmm wrote on Jun 25, 2008 2:03 PM:

" Last I checked Dems and Republicans are being charged the same amount for gas. "

question wrote on Jun 25, 2008 3:11 PM:

" to Paul "Gas in Germany is over $8 a gallon. I wonder who they blame."

Do you live in Germany? Probably not, because if you did, you would know that they don't drive as much as we do, and that they have a lot of programs that are paid for by the incredibly high taxes put on their gas, and they accept it. For them $4 gas would be a relief. For us, it's a burden. "

ALEJANDRO wrote on Jun 25, 2008 3:33 PM:

" Hey "The Anti Right Winger,"

Read the post directly above your last.

Then, you and the author of that disappointing post should try to educate each other as to the ever-increasing price of oil.

I will be absorbing a lot from two such learned people. "

The anti right winger wrote on Jun 25, 2008 5:19 PM:

" ALEJANDRO as you have taken market deregulation to task for the unprecedented spike in oil and gas prices your statement that "Skip Athey is 100% correct in his commentary" should be given some examination. Mr. Athey would have the reader believe that if more oil drilling had occurred in the previous decade that the price of gas would be far less than it's current historic high of $4.00 per gallon. Alejandro your previous statements would signal your belief that the market is being manipulated by unscrupulous trading of oil futures. This trading while making oil companies and commodity brokers fabulously wealthy has little to do with supply and demand.
Evidence of this can be found in the fact that while oil inventories grew this week prices have held at all time highs. In a manipulated market traditional rules of supply and demand don't work. As a result additional supplies of oil will not bring prices down. There is no current shortage, have you seen any gas stations closed due to having no product to sell? "

to watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 25, 2008 8:02 PM:

" again and again you bring up the so called capped wells in Coalinga. Are you an ex or current oil man? I am , and I have worked in the Coalinga Fields for a half a century. There isn't any capped well's that still flow oil , and they are not keeping wells off to wait for the best time to produce them. The capped wells that you may or may not have seen are non producers (dry wells!!!) also Coaling crude is 8 gravity , (tar) and isn't good quality oil , therefore it does not bring the best price.Now on the other hand Chevron is the worst at just shutting down wells that are marginal producers., when they could keep them on. op costs determine the logistics of all that , but that is another story. Now as you alway's say "get your facts straight." "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 25, 2008 8:39 PM:

" All these comments exhibit to me that most who say government has no say about gas and oil prices are a bunch of delinquents who haven't lived through gas lines and odd and even purchase days. The government can do a lot of things and most adversely effect us, so don't ever say they can't do something. They could very easily limit the number of barrels of oil brought into the country on a daily basis for example. All of these things the President down has presented to the people or enacted for the people of the United States. That's why I am more for an alternative boycott brought about by the people. We shouldn't have to be told to slow down on our driving and spending, we should do it for the benefit of our own families. Those Future Guessers which is all they are lose when sales at the pump drops dramatically. They are forecasting an increase, well let's forecast and force a decrease and see how quickly they withdraw their support for those future's markets on oil. Stop supporting those who rob from your lifestyle to fill their pockets. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 25, 2008 8:45 PM:

" You want to see a panic in government everyone pick a day and stay home from work in protest to gas prices and see how quickly something gets done about it. What are they gonna do fire everyone? There is safety in numbers my friends, you can't write a note in a blog and expect the oil executives to lower gas prices. They are loving those fat profits right now, more money in a quarter than they have imagined in their lifetimes while selling less product. We don't buy from gas service stations any longer, we buy from a suit setting in a fat office drinking StarBucks like it was water during the day and money cocktails at night after work. You have to realize who you are really dealing with here. The middle easterners can't be satisfied selling you crude they have to come run the convenience stores and mini-marts and watch you pump their gas in your tanks. It's like being the finance company and the bank all rolled into one. It would be like the DEA selling drugs on the corner of the street. "

Donna Cox wrote on Jun 26, 2008 11:16 AM:

" The Democrats have completed manufactured their record in the Congress an glorified Clinton in spite of the truth. No one is totally with out blame for our current situation, as far as gas prices go. Maybe we as voters need to take a look at our Reps in Congress and do some exploring of our own, into better representation for our country. The Democratic party is living in a strange bubble with an attitude that you normally see in a grade school sandbox. Always pointing fingers and calling names. Considering the money we pay them and the extra perks they extract from the public coffers for themselves we can probably safely say, they don't have the peoples interests at the center of their work.
Just a thought, maybe there is a really go reason that ANWAR can't be drilled. There are a lot of things under the ice in that part of the world. "

jeff wrote on Jun 26, 2008 12:14 PM:

" Alejandro, would you care to educate me on the ever-increasing price of oil? You seem certain I do not know what I am talking about yet I see nothing from you that invalidates what I’ve said, just statements that I am wrong somehow.
Fred, you said it right in your post. “Those Future Guessers which is all they are lose when sales at the pump drops dramatically.” Speculation is one reason gas is so high. Congress is not a reason and sometimes they do speculate it will drop, if you know what you’re doing you can always make money in the stock market. Your use of the word ‘Delinquent’ is incorrect in that context. If you really meant to use that word than you are really reaching into some imaginary scenario you’ve concocted in your head. Your second post is ludicrous, are you trying to assert that the man operating the convenient store is secretly laughing behind his back because gas costs so much and he is in on a secret plot to steal our money? Read this http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=610122 and this http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_573674.html "

I agree wrote on Jun 26, 2008 1:38 PM:

" I say drill away...under Oklahoma and Texas are Huge oil reserves! I say lets drill the you know what out of those states; who would miss them, we should tear up Texas out of Revenge alone!!

Honestly, who would miss either state? Not me...

One more thing, no one from either of those states should relocate to California; we have taken in More than enough of those types of individuals! Let them go south, they would probably feel more at home in those states anyway. "

Trains wrote on Jun 26, 2008 11:04 PM:

" I was spending $350 a month commuting to Fresno. Now I spend $85 a month taking AMTRAK. Nuff said. "

Sick of Gas wrote on Jun 27, 2008 10:11 AM:

" Watch "Who Killed the Electric Car"
We need alternatives to gas, and not just another fossil fuel, eventually fossil fuels will run out.
How 'bout a solar powered car? I am sure the technology is out there somewhere!
Also, it was mentioned that Germany pays over $8 a gallon for gas, they also have commuter trains throughout Germany which give people another option vs. driving. all we have is KART and Amtrak. These services will not serve everyone as it all depends on where people work. Where are our high speed trains? Germany and Japan have had theirs for over 30 years??!! I can bet that the oil companies or their lobbyists probably have had some pull in ensuring these haven't come to fruition. "

Melissa wrote on Jun 28, 2008 2:14 AM:

" Oh this is funny!! No this is real news...Some person in hanford need to be told every day that gas prices are going upbecause he doesn't want to expand his cultural knowledge....plesae keep that man happy and post the gas price!!! "

jeff wrote on Jun 29, 2008 11:15 PM:

" Dearest Fred, I just saw your post to me on Jun 25, 2008 1:07 AM: you say “I get a little involved in my comments as well but I try to avoid scolding and confrontational comments” So this isn’t scolding? “I think you need to show a little more discipline and manners when responding to commentators here in these blogs.” And this isn’t confrontational? “I honestly don't think Jeff your future wife is a woman this topic is just to near and dear to your principled heart and it is beginning to show.” How old are you Fred? When are you going to grow up? Isn’t it you and Alejandro who keep telling everyone respect is not a given, that it is earned? Sorry, you haven’t earned my respect. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 30, 2008 4:36 AM:

" To Jeff: All these comments exhibit to me that most who say government has no say about gas and oil prices are a bunch of delinquents who haven't lived through gas lines and odd and even purchase days.
Deffinition Meriam-Webster - 1. failing in or neglectful of a duty or obligation; guilty of a misdeed or offense.
You are charged with responsibility to have a certain knowledge quotant that would give you the capability to understand government has stepped in before with the processes I listed above and those who neglected that information or are unaware of that information are guilty of a misdeed or offense it is called ignorance. So no I didn't use the term delinquent incorrectly, it just flew above your head and over your concentrations level like a paper plane thrown into the air. I continue to decree if stupidity were painful there would be less of it. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 30, 2008 4:58 AM:

" To Jeff: my question is Canada has oil reserves almost equal to Iraq and Kuwait put together, why aren't we making trades for that oil? We have to have commodities that they want we could trade oil for or at least get a better price from. In reality between Canada and Mexico we shouldn't have to go any further out of the hemisphere for our oil needs. Canada is second in the world on oil reserves and we aren't capitalizing on it, why? Perhaps they are the one's we need to be talking to rather than Syria, Iran and North Korea. "

jeff wrote on Jun 30, 2008 12:41 PM:

" Fred, that is your question? Why has it taken you so long to ask it then? Is it because y our Coalinga ridge attempt has failed and this is the next shoddy argument you could think of? Thanks for looking up delinquent. You claim to take the high road? Using that word in the manner you did would be in direct contrast of not being confrontational, showing respect and possessing discipline and manners. Also please tell me what I was neglectful of, what duty or obligation I failed at, and what misdeed or offense I am guilty of exactly. I was alive during the 1979 oil crisis by the way; also please explain to me what Congress did to create that crisis. It’s oddly humorous how you make a vague attempt at calling me gay yet here you are getting your feelings hurt over things I said to a completely different man. You feel the need to come running to the help and safety of another man almost as if the two of you had intimate feelings for each other so far as to feel the need to protect each other. "

ALEJANDRO wrote on Jun 30, 2008 2:24 PM:

" Hey Watchdog,

Just don't make any jazz or music related points here. Experts abound here and abroad.

After all, three semesters of community college music is far beyond what what most of us get.

Yep, the Democrats still want to tax and spend over and over again.

I say again: Right on, Skip Athey! "

hmm wrote on Jun 30, 2008 4:40 PM:

" There is a new documentary out that is getting a lot of buzz nationwide. It is called GASHOLE and will play Hanford's Fox theatre July 11. Go to www.foxhanford.com, click on the GASHOLE icon to go to their site. It will be informative and maybe even fun. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jul 1, 2008 9:50 AM:

" Alejandro - my main question to Jeff and Duane is show me one piece of valuable legislation, Obama has written. Point to one law, which is what the Senate does, that Obama has not co-authored that he himself got passed through the Senate. They can't because there isn't one, however McCain has authored and co-sponsored bills during his entire time in office.
The man flip flops too much first he is against hand guns then he is against gun control. Then he treats terrorist like the normal criminals in the world. He would prosecute them, but let me ask you how afraid of prosecution do you think men are who fly commercial jet liners into buildings to kill Americans? Do you really think you are gonna stop that with the threat of jailing them?
How Naive can you get, his awareness speaks volumes when he says in his first year he would speak to all the governments we aren't speaking too. Do you know what Iran could do with another year bought off with no action against their nuclear program because Barack wanted to talk. Sure they'll talk anything to distract an attack. "

jeff wrote on Jul 1, 2008 12:36 PM:

" Fred, I am confused, I thought your question was “To Jeff: my question is Canada has oil reserves almost equal to Iraq and Kuwait put together, why aren't we making trades for that oil?” but now you are saying it is “Alejandro - my main question to Jeff and Duane is show me one piece of valuable legislation, Obama has written”. What does legislation that Obama has or has not written have to do with the topic at hand anyways? The article is about oil prices not which candidate would make a better President. I think you are confused again. Since you love Wikipedia so much I looked up Obama on that site. Please refer to the ‘Legislation’ section for legislation he has written, co-sponsored etc. You not only said I would be unable to do this but also that he has never co-sponsored any legislation. Remember when you posted “This is not to say I am always without error we all know better than that, but you can bet if you call me on something and I know I am right, I'll provide you fact to back it up, or be man enough to say I got it wrong.” "

jeff wrote on Jul 1, 2008 2:26 PM:

" Alejandro, you have failed yourself once again. By saying “After all, three semesters of community college music is far beyond what what most of us get.” you are really just saying that I am smarter than you are and by a significant amount so thanks for the compliment. You even show it in your post by repeating the word ‘What’. "

Johnny Crisco wrote on Jul 1, 2008 5:20 PM:

" If this new law being passed about people talking on there cell phones is so important why isnt it on the hanfordsentinel website! i tune in regularly and was hoping to catch an article on it so i could share my complaints. Why is it that citizens can not talk on their cell phones while driving, yet i just drove not even 10 miles and seen 3 cops driving on their phones.. explain this. "

Rebecca Patterson-Kmet Texas Retired Pharmacist wrote on Jul 2, 2008 2:51 PM:

" US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says there are LOTS of drilling permits for oil that are not being used. Why? That is because whenever a lot of money is invested in drilling new or old oil wells in America, OPEC (Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries) increases output to BANKRUPT the competition with lower prices. "

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