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There'll be more AIDS, HIV

Editor: You know, everyone who has written into The Sentinel concerning the new law allowing for the "gay" folks who live together to get married has been setting the Bible or God as the reason that they believe it's wrong. God never intended for same-sex couples to live together. "Yeah," others say, "hey, what goes on behind locked doors is their business." That's true too, to each his own.

But, besides throwing the Bible or God out, no one has mentioned any other reason against the marriages. I've got one for you. How about the HIV or the AIDS epidemics that everyone was so concerned about here a few years ago.

Remember, the pictures of those skin and bones people they showed on TV that were infected with AIDS? Not a very pretty sight was it? Have they done away with AIDS, HIV, are they a thing of the past? Shouldn't we be more concerned with this rather then what the Bible says?

It seems to me that at the time that the AIDS epidemic was going full bore there was concern that more straight people were getting infected then had been anticipated. It was no longer just a problem for the gay community. (Is there such a thing, as a gay community, do they only live in one place?)

I think that we all know it is human nature for men and women to get bored with their spouse or mad at their spouse and decide to get even. In this case fool around with someone else. Ever hear of that?

Now, how do you suppose that an epidemic got started in the straight community? Remember that this disease is transmitted through sexual contact.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that with a new AIDS epidemic and no one has medical insurance and there are going to be some monstrous medical bills, who is to get stuck paying the bill? Yep, you hit it right, the public, the straight community.

So, when all is said and done and you go to the polls in November, think of some of these things. I've seen articles in this very paper concerning people who say that their children or other family member are gay.

Well, OK, you're right, they have every right to live life the way they want to. But do we, the general public, have to pick up the tab? Think about it ... and "bless you."

Joe Flores

Hanford

(July 10, 2008)

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The following are comments from the readers. In no way do they represent the views of the Hanford Sentinel

Ya think wrote on Jul 10, 2008 12:41 PM:

" So it's your position that these people are practicing abstinence or safe sex prior to getting married? You think just because they are now legally able to get married that their just now having sex?

I appreciate your willingness to voice your opinion, but please consider the whole picture before making your statements "

Alan G. wrote on Jul 10, 2008 1:04 PM:

" Flawed logic. I see no causal connection between a marriage license and an increase in AIDS. "

jeff wrote on Jul 10, 2008 1:17 PM:

" This letter is ignorant at worst and delusive at best. You say gay people spread HIV. This may or may not be true but what you fail to realize is that gay people are already having sex with one another. Keeping them from marrying will not stop this and might actually help prevent the spread of AIDS. If they’re married, the feeling it’s ok to have multiple partners might not be as strong.
You say “(Is there such a thing, as a gay community, do they only live in one place?)” is there a straight community? You’re failing to understand context here, using the word community this way is perfectly legitimate, and I guess your grasp of our language is not that strong.
“I guess what I'm trying to say is that with a new AIDS epidemic and no one has medical insurance” I was unaware of a new AIDS epidemic or that medical insurance has disappeared.
If there were going to be a burden on taxpayers to pay for people with AIDS it would be happening now. Gay people already have sex with one another, they are not waiting to get married to do this. "

PJ wrote on Jul 10, 2008 1:45 PM:

" Well everyone already beat me to the punch. "

ALEJANDRO wrote on Jul 10, 2008 3:00 PM:

" Just wondering . . .

Are there any homosexual individuals who practice abstinence due to their religious beliefs or their own personal choice?

Would there be any gays or lesbians with adopted children who would advocate abstinence until marriage for their children?

I really would like to know. "

Valerie Miller wrote on Jul 10, 2008 3:28 PM:

" Well Sentinel editors and staff you really outdid yourselves this time by feeling the need to print this letter. I believe Mr. Flores is entited to his opinion and beliefs and that he has the right to think whatever he wants to. Hhowever, I cannot believe you would think any good would come of priniting this letter in your newspaper.
Oh, I know why: you all love to have contreversy. Well I guess I am a sucker because I fell for it hook line and sinker. I read the letter and was so appaled at your insensitivity to print it, that I dropped my paper and got on the website to comment. I guess your plan worked! Congratulations. "

Alan G. wrote on Jul 10, 2008 4:01 PM:

" Valerie, I think it's a wonderful thing that the Sentinel publishes letters to the editor, whether the author's opinion is popular or not. I disagree with Joe's opinion, but I'm happy that he has the right to share it and I'm happy that I have the opportunity to disagree in the comments section. "

Claire wrote on Jul 10, 2008 5:32 PM:

" This is just a stupid letter. It makes no sense. If you want to see a gay community, try Castro in San Francisco, Hillcrest in San Diego, Spanish Town in Baton Rouge, etc. (Just to name a couple) They are everywhere, and they are also some of the nicest people you'll ever meet. Every person in the world risks getting AIDS or any number of other diseases, gay or not, from unprotected sex. Marriage has nothing to do with it. Marriage may even make the rates go down if committed partners are faithful to each other, which does and doesn't happen in any community. Mr. Flores, you have further demonstrated your ridiculous ignorance and intolerance. "

patspage wrote on Jul 10, 2008 7:38 PM:

" Thank you Joe Flores for voicing your opinion. I happen to agree with you. Why should we all have to pay for the homosexuals misguided actions that lead to HIV/Aids. It is a fact that AIDS started with the homosexual lifestyle. "

BoKnowsOtherJoesWhoKnowsSuperBowls wrote on Jul 10, 2008 8:23 PM:

" LOL! This is great stuff. "

Valerie wrote on Jul 10, 2008 8:25 PM:

" Alan G- I agree that everyone has a right to their own opinion, but the Sentinel also has the right to print the letter that they want to. I am sure they do not print every letter they receive, so my point is why print this letter that is obviously on unfounded information and will do nothing but get people "riled up" and talking and commenting like I am doing now.(I know I am a hypocrite!=) "

dose wrote on Jul 10, 2008 8:46 PM:

" The author of this letter is proof that our public education system is failing us. "

To patspage wrote on Jul 10, 2008 8:47 PM:

" Have you taken a biology course in the last 20 years? AIDS did not start with gay people. In 1988, I remember my professor talking about it starting with certain monkeys in Africa. Do you know how many people in Africa get AIDS and die? Heterosexually, I might add. There are many, many orphans. Don't be ignorant enough to think this is a gay disease. It most certainly is not. Anyone can get it, in many different ways. "

Billy Buck wrote on Jul 10, 2008 8:52 PM:

" patspage said
"It is a fact that AIDS started with the homosexual lifestyle. "
Aids was a US government and weapons industry experiment gone amuck. Look it up. "

Amanda R wrote on Jul 10, 2008 9:44 PM:

" Wow, another letter on gay marriage. Isn't there anything else going on in this world? Anyone have an opinion on anything else? Please, just let it go until November, then vote to bring back the sanctity of marriage between one MAN and one WOMAN. All of you who think gay marriage will remain, get ready to be wrong. I know plenty of people are just voting against it because they cannot believe the audacity of the people who passed this against the majority vote. So Joe, just wait until then. All you're doing is getting the same comments and opinions that everyone else who has spoken against gay marriage has gotten. "

DUMB wrote on Jul 10, 2008 10:20 PM:

" Mr Flores, your letter is DUMB! What about straight people who contract HIV daily? Marriage has nothing to do with it. As a matter of fact if you read the "American Medical Journal", world wide including the United States, straight people are contracting HIV at a rate or 2-1 compared to gays. Again, Thanks for sharing your IQ with us. "

OMG wrote on Jul 11, 2008 12:44 AM:

" How can someone be so ignorant as you, Mr. Flores? AIDS does not discriminate! It is a horrible, aweful disease and I've witnessed so many people die from it (gay, straight, white, black, asian, mexican, etc.). Quit your stereo typing and come back to the real world!! AIDS is a world tragedy! Instead of spewing ignorance in people's faces, why don't you spend this free time you have in meeting and learning from people who are living with it and who's lost people they've loved to this disease?? Knowledge is power, ignorance is NOT!! "

Rebecca Patterson-Kmet Texas Retired Pharmacist wrote on Jul 11, 2008 7:03 AM:

" I disagree with the author on the origin and vectors for spreading HIV/AIDS. Dr. Stan Monteith who is an M.D. and Ph.D. and founder of Radio Liberty and Dr. Bill Douglass II (he wrote the book "AIDS AND THE END OF CIVILIZATION") and others tracked the outbreaks of HIV/AIDS to World Health Org.(UN) tainted vaccines given twenty years before to inner city homosexuals and many Third World countries. ONLY where WHO of the UN had given the tainted smallpox and tetanus and hepatitis vaccines did the HIV/AIDS initially break out. The author wrongly believes HIV can only be transmitted sexually. It is more likely for an infection to take hold by sexual transmission of body fluids, but the HIV virus can stay viable (infectious) for 24 hours on a surface like a gas handle pump or restaurant table, etc. HIV also piggybacks the tuberculosis bacilli when TB paitents with HIV/AIDS cough. So HIV is also airborne or can be. Chuck Missler has the documentation on those methods of transmission in a lecture from Koinonia House Ministries in Idaho. WHY aren't HIV/AIDS patients quarantined like in Russia and Cuba? Many former Russians at CDC and NIH dictate Public Health policies. "

Mrs.D wrote on Jul 11, 2008 7:10 AM:

" Hillcrest is one of the better gay communities in California. Straight people have been known to flock Hillcrest with their children at Halloween.

And patspage, there's a high rate of genital herpes in the straight community. Don't forget that tidbit of information. "

Rebecca Patterson-Kmet Texas Retired Pharmacist wrote on Jul 11, 2008 7:17 AM:

" According to Chuck Missler's research on HIV/AIDS, the HIV virus is so small that trying to stop it with a condom is like trying to trying to stop bb's with a chain link fence. The likelihood on infection once exposed depends on an unusual factor: benzene in the body, according to Ph.D. researcher and author Dr. Hulda Clark of Canada. How do you get the benzene and petroleum distillates out of the body? Take Riboflavin which is Vitamin B-2. The adult dose is up to 250mg daily. Even ice cream has benzene in it because the ice cream machine are cleaned with benzene according to Dr. Clark. Be sure there is an adequate amount of B-2 in daily supplements. The child's dose for children over the age of six is half the adult dose, as a rule of thumb. "

O. G. wrote on Jul 11, 2008 8:15 AM:

" Thank you Joe Flores for your letter. AIDS is but one disease that has spread through the gay community. "

huh wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:22 AM:

" This has to be one of the most backwoods ignorant things I have ever read. To Mr.Flores, you can contract HIV in any number of non sexual ways. Here is a little something more for you to read on and find falt with.

"HIV also may be transmitted from a nursing mother to her infant. Studies have suggested that breastfeeding introduces an additional risk of HIV transmission of approximately 10 to 14 percent among women with chronic HIV infection. In developing countries, an estimated one-third to one-half of all HIV infections are transmitted through breastfeeding.

WHO recommends that all HIV-infected women be advised about both the risks and benefits of breastfeeding for their infants so they can make informed decisions. In countries where safe alternatives to breastfeeding are readily available and economically feasible, this alternative should be encouraged. In general, in developing countries where safe alternatives to breastfeeding are not readily available, the benefits of breastfeeding in terms of decreased illness and death due to other infectious diseases greatly outweigh the potential risk of HIV transmission." "

huh continued wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:28 AM:

" And Mr Flores in case you didn't get the subtle meaning to that post, it says mother and child, which in most cases means a man and women had sexual union to produce aforementioned child. All marriage and sex should be banned, using your logic, due to the diseases that can come about. Come to think of it, since there is all these children whose parents cannot really afford them is making more of a money impact with social services than anything HIV is doing and for decades longer than HIV was even around I would think you would have wanted all marriage to cease and desist immediately! Yeah, great plan. Only marriage allowed is gay marriage so no more children that cannot be taken care of won't be brought into the world and the money can be concentrated on HIV research "

Jackie K. wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:41 AM:

" Valerie, yes, we do print every letter we receive - as long as they contain the author's name, signature, physical address and contact phone number or e-mail address, and are not libelous in any way. We do not "selectively" run letters. We believe in everyone's right to voice their opinion, and are pleased to be able to provide the forum to do so. "

Rebecca Patterson-Kmet Texas Retired Pharmacist wrote on Jul 11, 2008 9:58 AM:

" There is or was a former nurse in Lemoore who contracted a rare form of AIDS from the blood of a surgical patient splattering on her latex gloves. The HIV virus is so tiny, it goes through latex. That was the only possible explanation for her getting that rare form of HIV/AIDS since she knew of no other exposure to it. Her husband left her, as husbands often do when the wife gets a catastrophic illness. Her children went to the Adventist School in Armona on scholarship. She was an innocent person who got a dreadful disease. She is not a homosexual and never had immoral sex. Maybe God needs her more in heaven than her three daughters do on earth. "

lisa wrote on Jul 11, 2008 12:26 PM:

" What an ignorant letter. I am a nursh who has had the pleasure of working with numerous HIV and AIDS patience, MOST OF WHOM WERE STRAIGHT, CHILDREN, ELDERLY. I think if the writer of this letter were to do a little more research, he would realize just how archaic and misinformed his letter is. The largest group being affected at this time, are the elderly, because they think that unprotected sex will be safe, due to their age. There is no connection and the Bible should be left out of this- it's simple science! "

Valerie wrote on Jul 11, 2008 12:43 PM:

" I had an error message with my post so if this goes through twice I am sorry.

Jackie-I stand corrected. But If a letter about an entire group of people causing a disease with no basis in fact is not libel than I don't know what is. At the least it was insensitive to print such drivel. "

Just the facts wrote on Jul 11, 2008 1:25 PM:

" Don't agree that this will cause more since it has spread everywhere now. But most of you need to get your facts straight before coming down on others.
Read some facts for yourself: http://www.avert.org/origins.htm

The epidemic did start in the US by gay males in the early 1980's. "

To Just the facts wrote on Jul 11, 2008 2:35 PM:

" This is directly from your site....

We do not know how many people developed AIDS in the 1970s, or indeed in the years before. Neither do we know, and we probably never will know, where the AIDS virus HIV originated (see our origins page for some theories). But what we do know is:

"The dominant feature of this first period was silence, for the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) was unknown and transmission was not accompanied by signs or symptoms salient enough to be noticed. While rare, sporadic case reports of AIDS and sero-archaeological studies have documented human infections with HIV prior to 1970, available data suggest that the current pandemic started in the mid- to late 1970s. By 1980, HIV had spread to at least five continents (North America, South America, Europe, Africa and Australia). During this period of silence, spread was unchecked by awareness or any preventive action and approximately 100,000-300,000 persons may have been infected." - Jonathan Mann 1 "

jeff wrote on Jul 11, 2008 2:39 PM:

" Dear Just the facts, why don’t you get your facts straight before coming down on others?
Here it is straight from the CDC @ http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/basic/index.htm#origin
Origin of HIV
“Scientists identified a type of chimpanzee in West Africa as the source of HIV infection in humans. The virus most likely jumped to humans when humans hunted these chimpanzees for meat and came into contact with their infected blood. Over several years, the virus slowly spread across Africa and later into other parts of the world.” "

Kevin McMann wrote on Jul 11, 2008 3:23 PM:

" Is this a joke? Do people really believe this? It makes me sick to think it is possible for people to actually believe this stuff. "

Proud wrote on Jul 11, 2008 3:45 PM:

" So Joe... thank you for offering yet another example of the worldly thinking that occurs with residents in OUR fine community. It's good to see that our SPECIAL population can formulate an opinion and back it up with unsubstantiated facts!!

I hear banjos dueling.... and it's not a diversity dance!!!

God bless YOU... you're gonna need it. "

Hmm wrote on Jul 11, 2008 4:04 PM:

" http://netowne.com/conspiracy/konformist/manmadeaids.htm

For those of you who think AIDS started within the gay community, maybe you should check out this link. Very interesting stuff. "

To Jeff wrote on Jul 11, 2008 4:31 PM:

" Why don't you get your facts straights, I did not mention anything about where it originated only about the US epidemic that hit in the early 80's. All you have to do is read the timelines and how it started and spread here in the US. I made no mention of the theories of how it probably originated in Africa, spread to Haiti and then on to the US. And yes, there was an earlier case but the epidemic didn't really hit till the late 70's to early 80's. Pay attention! Quote from the site: "It is possible that HIV had entered the US several times before subtype B took a firm hold (which would explain the infection of the St. Louis teenager in the early to mid-1960s), but it was the late 1960s / early 1970s transfer that is believed to be responsible for the widespread epidemic seen in the US today. Once the virus had established itself in the gay community, it would have spread fairly rapidly (anal intercourse carries a very high transmission risk), with transmission occurring within and between the US and Haiti, and internationally etc. etc. etc. "

Claire wrote on Jul 11, 2008 4:50 PM:

" Thanks for backing me up, Jeff! I knew it was the monkeys. Back in the 80s I think the spread of HIV was popularized through the gay community, but that doesn't mean it's a gay disease. It has hit nearly every group significantly in all this time it's been around. For a while it peaked in blacks. Another time it was increasing in teens. Another time it was increasing in Hispanics. It has touched nearly everyone by now. "

corn-nuts wrote on Jul 11, 2008 4:57 PM:

" Thank you for printing this letter. It made me completely sick to my stomach on one hand and on the other I felt joy in knowing how many people will read it and see that Mr. Flores carries some completely unfounded ignorant opninions. "

Scott Tucker wrote on Jul 11, 2008 5:08 PM:

" Wow, I go away for a few days and then come back home to find this steaming heap of excrement for a letter. The level of ignorance and bigotry displayed here is amazing (unfortunately, it comes as no surprise). "

Whittie wrote on Jul 11, 2008 5:15 PM:

" Hey Joe
Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
- Mark Twain "

Ignorance wrote on Jul 11, 2008 5:46 PM:

" I think there must be a new epidemic in the straight world called stupidity. It seems to be spreading rapidly among the straight community in hanford, CA. I am concerned that if we keep issuing marriage licenses to heterosexual couples, this stupidity epidemic is going to increase our healthcare expenses. Who has to pay now ? "

curse from the heavens wrote on Jul 11, 2008 7:28 PM:

" Like a curse from the heavens, those committing immoral acts have been hit the most. "

Hmm wrote on Jul 11, 2008 8:15 PM:

" So this would mean drug (needle) users would not be allowed to marry, neither would anyone who has had sex prior to their marrige? I am not homosexual BUT I do not judge them. It isn't my place. I know many gay people who are STF free and I know many straight people (young, old, married, single, rich, poor) who are infected with some sort of STD (including HIV & AIDS) I work at a doctors office! "

Larry wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:35 AM:

" Well Joe... You proved to me that you are the reason that we have the "no child left behind" act. You don't read facts before you open your mouth and prove to everyone that you use the Bible to spread fear and ignorance. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jul 12, 2008 2:52 PM:

" I see not a word in Mr. Flores letter than I can agree with or accept. However, did it ever occur to those of you who are attacking him that possibly educating him might be the better alternative to a solution. You don't disprove an individuals comment by ranting and paste posting wihtout the compassion to enlighten and educate someone.
Yet a professional or she says she is, is dispelling alot of what I've heard about HIV and how infectuous it is or has beomce. I've heard during lecture after lecture on television that HIV cannot be airborne, nor can it adhere to toilet seats or any other object someone touches. I've always been told it has to be contained in the body fluids or blood, period. I guess a cough containing blood such as tb could make it airborne but to what degree and in what circumference of area?
HIV has always been a subject the infuriates people but not many care to discuss it intelligently or with fact based information. Look what a rucous this letter has caused in our small community alone? Come on people think, common sense/respect. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jul 12, 2008 3:00 PM:

" To Jeff, this might help, it is more of the info you offered but didn't paste.
Rebecca Patterson-Kmet Texas Retired Pharmacist wrote on Jul 11, 2008 11:58 AM:
Rebecca this article does not agree with your statements at all.

How HIV Is and Is Not Transmitted

HIV is a fragile virus. It cannot live for very long outside the body. As a result, the virus is not transmitted through day-to-day activities such as shaking hands, hugging, or a casual kiss. You cannot become infected from a toilet seat, drinking fountain, doorknob, dishes, drinking glasses, food, or pets. You also cannot get HIV from mosquitoes.

HIV is primarily found in the blood, semen, or vaginal fluid of an infected person. HIV is transmitted in 3 main ways:

Having sex (anal, vaginal, or oral) with someone infected with HIV
Sharing needles and syringes with someone infected with HIV
Being exposed (fetus or infant) to HIV before or during birth or through breast feeding

I don't think anyone knows conclusively what the effect of this virus is, do you? "

To Jeff wrote on Jul 12, 2008 3:54 PM:

" Even your CDC site says, the same about the US Epidemic in the early 80's:

Brief History of HIV in the United States

HIV was first identified in the United States in 1981 after a number of gay men started getting sick with a rare type of cancer. It took several years for scientists to develop a test for the virus, to understand how HIV was transmitted between humans, and to determine what people could do to protect themselves.

I am not for gay marriages but on the same hand I do not believe that it will have any significant increase in the number of people with AIDS.

Just the facts! "

Debbie wrote on Jul 12, 2008 4:34 PM:

" I thought the ignorance epidemic had slowed down but clearly I was wrong. Has this man forgotten that aids in not a "gay" disease. My god what a moronic statement he has made. Gay marrige will not cause another aids epidemic just as a huge quake wont break California off in to the ocean. I wish these closed minded people would think before spewing the trash they let flow so easaly. "

Rebecca Patterson-Kmet Retired Texas Pharmacist wrote on Jul 13, 2008 3:28 AM:

" Finding the source or beginning of the HIV/AIDS virus that was put into World Health Organization vaccines for smallpox, tetanus, and hepatitis to create the epidemic twenty years later has been undertaken by a number of physicians and researchers. Perhaps the best reason and reference is Dr. William Campbell Douglass II's book, "AIDS and the End of Civilization." He believes at least a quarter of the people in America have been infected through tainted vaccines and sexual transmission routes. The real effect and epidemic is yet to be experienced in America. In SubSaharan Africa, the CIA estimates 80% of the population is infected with HIV or has AIDS. SubSaharan Africa is dying. That will be the situation in America and a lot of other parts of the world as time goes by. Dr. Douglass II attributes that to President Nixon letting RUSSIAN physicians and scientists into America to work at Ft. Detrick, Md.'s research center, the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md., and the Center for Disease Control ON AN EXCHANGE program that became permanent assignments. Gradually, the Russian scientists and physicians rose to policy making positions and refused to quarantine HIV/AIDS patients who got the disease Russiansdeveloped. "

O. G. wrote on Jul 13, 2008 5:15 PM:

" Homosexuals and IV drug users are the two highest risk groups to suffer from AIDS which by no means doesn't mitigate the impact of other STD's that heavily impact the homosexual segment of society more than any other segment of society.
For example syphilis has skyrocketed among men engaging in homosexual intercourse—from 5% in 1999 to 64% in 2004. Men who have sex with men (MSM) accounted for 71% of all HIV infections among male adults and adolescents in 2005 (based on data from 33 states with long-term, confidential name-based HIV reporting) . http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/resources/factsheets/pdf/msm.pdf
My guess is that the average lifespan of homosexuals is greatly diminished due to their inane sexual practices. "

OMFG wrote on Jul 13, 2008 6:55 PM:

" I am not a regular on these blogs, but this one struck an interest as I work with this "community." I don't think most of you realize that there are state and federal grant set aside for the AIDS/HIV population. It is all of our dollars put to this epidemic, and no it does not discriminate! The local health deparrtments in Kings, Tulare & Kern Counties keep a record of the current cases of AIDS/HIV in the different communities. You would not believe that they rarely have to worry about not having insurance. They get food, gas medicine, sexual barriers & birth control all for free through these grants to the counties. Not to mention what the different organizations out there provide.
To think this is limited to only the gay community is ridiculous! When I was in high school a few years ago, we had a blood drive. Out of all the people who participated, 16 teens came back HIV+. I was from a community outside the state of CA the size of Lemoore.
Most of you writting on this blog have no clue how people living with disease are treated! "

Really wrote on Jul 13, 2008 7:16 PM:

" Rebecca, you should be ashamed of yourself. As a retired pharmacist, I would think you researched your claims. Problem is, some of your "experts" are not really that at all.

Doctors Monteith and Douglass are highly regarded physicians with great credentials. Their findings are substantial and reliable.

HOWEVER, Chuck Missler is an evangelical Christian with NO formal training in medicine, or scientific research to back up his claims. Come on...the man tries to prove evolution wrong with a jar of peanut butter!

And his agenda is obvious if you step back and look. AIDS is from Homosexuals...Homosexuals are bad. Let's try to scare the public with something that the CDC has CONFIRMED is FALSE. Check their factsheet on HIV/AIDS Transmission.

And the virus, while small...ONLY gets through condoms that are "skin" or "lambskin"...NOT through latex.

The ONLY way to contract AIDS is through contact with infected bodily fluids. ALL cases of health care professionals getting infected have been when the infected fluids were taken in through cuts or natural openings (nose, mouth, eyes).

So this scare tactic of latex's nonperformance is BLATANTLY FALSE. "

Really wrote on Jul 13, 2008 7:28 PM:

" Dr. Hulda Clark, who does have a PhD in zoology and botany, is mostly noted for her crazy claims that EVERY problem with the human body is caused by parasites, toxins, and pollutants. She makes her money selling debunked "zappers" for curing the parasites she claims cause medical problems to unsuspecting people.

She has been taken to court numerous times with settlements AGAINST her for her false and unsubstantiated claims.

The FTC has investigated her and closed down her sale of these bogus products.

In fact, even Mexico, closed down her "clinic" in Tijuana with a hefty fine to boot.. While she is originally from Canada, she only "practices" in Mexico.

So, your claims of B-2 and benzene, are wholly unsubstantiated, and I am ashamed of you for publishing such drivel as fact.

Your position as a retired pharmacist WOULD give you some clout into this duscussion if your "findings" weren't so tainted. "

Lorie wrote on Jul 13, 2008 9:22 PM:

" To "OMFG": It's great to hear there is someone like you understanding the facts and "being real." I've lost my brother to AIDS and seen many lives taken from it. It is a horrible, horrible disease and hope nobody to go through with what I've witnessed. There are so many insensitive individuals out there that have no clue as to what AIDS can do to a person and to the one's that love them. As I read on here today, I see that some are still far from being educated. I was once ignorant on the disease when it first became known as the "gay plague". What a rude awakening I had when I saw my brother suffer from 12 years of hell. (Undergoing countless blood transfusions, battling meningitis, extreme weight-loss, a stroke, going blind, going paralyzed, then finally dying from AIDS-related pneumonia in 1996). I miss him so much that words cannot describe the agony that haunt me today. I still wake up from nightmares of seeing his anguished face and of "hearing" the oxygen tank he depended off of. We will never give up hope in a cure that will one day be found. "

Lorie wrote on Jul 13, 2008 9:35 PM:

" I would also like to make a note that everyday should be "AIDS Awareness." Until one day when there is a cure, there will be no more suffering. R.I.P. Jack... I love you and miss you, big brother!! "

Rebecca Patterson-Kmet Retired Texas Pharmacist wrote on Jul 13, 2008 9:46 PM:

" TO REALLY: Chuck Missler is a scientist who went bankrupt when he sold computers to Russia and did not get paid. His avocation (not vocation) was theology and Hal Lindsey's prophecy ministry. Hal Lindsey suggested Chuck Missler have a similar ministry with a science background to events. You have not listened to the evidence on HIV being contracted by inhalation or by going through the skin in addition to sexual transmission. You do not believe the HIV virus is small enough to go through latex condoms and latex gloves, but people who have been infected that way can assure you that is possible. Dr. Hulda Clark is a Ph.D. researcher who has assisted in the autopsies of thousands of patients to find the common denominators of disease as possible causative agents, whether viruses, pathogens, heavy metals, etc. She found that benzene in the body is necessary for HIV infections to take hold. Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) pulls benzene out of the body slowly. Ignorance is bliss. Dr. Royal Raymond Rife found in the 1920's that each pathogen has a particular radiofrequency that can kill the pathogens slowly. He was murdered at Grossmont Hospital with a Valium overdose by assissins. "

jeff wrote on Jul 14, 2008 8:54 AM:

" To the guy who won’t use a name but has been talking to me. Using your logic we should also ban or make illegal the following? Ourselves, for bringing a laundry list of new diseases to this continent when our European ancestors showed up here, poor people since they have a higher rate of catching and transmitting many tropical diseases and Europeans to save us from Vector-borne diseases. Also, most of the gay men in the U.S. are white. Just to be safe maybe we should make it illegal for white men to get married or have sex. Approximately 50% of men with HIV are black, are you suggesting we make it illegal to be a black man in this country? There are 2.7 million children under the age of 15 in this world infected with HIV. I guess if we want to avoid that slippery slope we should start putting all the children in this country on rafts? AIDS was started in Chimpanzee’s, so why aren’t you campaigning for a removal of all the Chimpanzees in this country from our zoos? "

Matt wrote on Jul 14, 2008 9:18 AM:

" Wow, that was offensive. "

To Jeff wrote on Jul 14, 2008 10:18 AM:

" I have to wonder if you really read anything that is being written before you jump to your own personal little opinion and start sprewing hate. "

Lemoore resident wrote on Jul 14, 2008 6:06 PM:

" It's easier to become infected with Heb A or B from infected blood than it is to get AIDS. There are alot of other diseases out there to be worried about also..... "

the real cover up wrote on Jul 14, 2008 8:33 PM:

" If you want to read about a real medical cover up just do some research on pancreatic enzymes being used to treat and cure cancer. It has been demonstrated to work for a 100 years with thousands of cured patients yet the cancer industry and FDA systematically try to suppress research and access to treatments along this concept. Just like Aids, there is more money to be made pretending to find cures than having a cure. It is all blood money at the end of the day. When a company like Nestle has to support alternative cancer research because the cancer industry is afraid of the results that really says something and this is not fiction. "

OMFG wrote on Jul 14, 2008 9:01 PM:

" Lorie~I am truely sorry for the loss of your brother! I am well aware the suffering these patients go thru since I see it first hand. I find it a shame that there are ignorant people in the world who do not stop to think before they speak. Perhaps Stupidity should be painful. Maybe it more people would use the brain GOD gave them.

For all the uneducated people reading the blog, perhaps you should go to the nearest Health Department and be tested (I heard it's free in most areas) for HIV/AIDS it cakes as little as 15 minutes, and I bet you would all be surprised at what you learn. Perhaps some of you would have a different opinion of the gay "community." But I have to hand it to them they are as happy, if not more so, than my husband & I are in our straight relationship. Most I am sure use the same percautions as us straight people! "

Really wrote on Jul 15, 2008 2:34 AM:

" Well Rebecca...I guess you really set the record straight. No wait, you didn't refute ANYTHING I said in my post. You are correct that Chuck Missler, through his own bad business acumen, went bankrupt. But his own website lists his VOCATION as evangelical Christian. And as the founder and leader of Koinonia.

Point is, an evangelical Christian with an agenda and no formal training in medical research IS NOT the final say in this matter as you claimed he was.

And PhD Clark perhaps has attended multiple autopsies but promoting B2 as a cure to HIV/AIDS is preposterous. "Dr" Clark is roundly regarded as a kook and not in touch with reality when it comes to medical issues.

What does Dr Rife have to do with anything in this discussion?.

And I DO understand the transmission of the virus. ONLY through open cuts (even microcuts) on the skin can it enter the body. I defy you to come up with even a single VERIFIED case of infection through the skin with no open sores or cuts...especially THROUGH latex.

Again, you disinformation is very damaging. "

Michael wrote on Jul 16, 2008 3:13 AM:

" I have to say that i am really starting to realize what type of community i live in. When i read that letter i laughed, i couldn't believe that someone had actually sat there and gave a lot of thought to how AIDS is going to be on the rise. So i take it that right now we have it under controll?
I remember when i was in high school i had always talked about how i was going to raise my family in Hanford, but now i am starting to see how closed minded people are. I wouldn't want my kids raised like that. Not everyone, but just enough to point fingers. To not like certain people cause there is a chance they might get AIDS. Cause oh yeah every gay person in the word has it. I mean come on.
Times are changing, just because gays can get married doesn't mean that the world is going to fall apart. That's what everyone is making it out to be... You don't see gay people protesting the marriage between a man and women. Gosh... People. "

jeff wrote on Jul 16, 2008 8:56 AM:

" Well now this just cannot be true can it? This guy is not only straight but he has AIDS and he likes to sleep with kids. I thought straight people never got AIDS and were upstanding people, isn’t it the gays that are the threat? I am so confused! http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060324/hiv_manitoba_060324/20060324?hub=TopStories "

Lorie wrote on Jul 16, 2008 6:53 PM:

" To "OMFG". Yes I believe there should be "mandatory blood-testing" for HIV. Some people who don't know they have it, can expose it to other's that don't use protection. Yes, the "word" is out about being aware of the potential dangers lurking, but some don't take the time to realise this. It's like playing Russian Roulette with one's body and once one is exposed and infected, there's no turning back. To Lemoore Resident: There are other disease's out there like Hep A, B, C. I'm sure there are known cures, but there is still NO cure for the HIV Strain, only meds like AZT and others to add some longevity to to a person infected with HIV. "

Rebecca Kmet Texas Retired Pharmacist wrote on Jul 16, 2008 8:31 PM:

" TO REALLY: Chuck Missler, if you dig deeper, is a remarkably educated and successful man in the sciences and in computer technology who had only one failure in his life which was trusting the Russian government to pay for computers that were delivered and not returned when they were not paid for: many millions of dollars that put the business into bankruptcy through no fault of Chuch Missler's. His company was robbed. You do not believe the research I have presented, so perish from ignorance. The Bible says, "My people perish from lack of knowledge." You choose to perish. Preventing HIV from taking hold and becoming an infection in the body by pulling out benzene with Vitamin B2 is different from curing full blown AIDS. But even with full blown AIDS, life might be prolonged if the HIV virus is hindered by a lack of benzene in the body. You sound so stupid, I wonder why I am answering. It is a lifelong habit of being helpful to people who do not appreciate it. The Apostle Paul had the same problem. He said the more abundantly he loved people, the less he was loved. But he continued, anyway. "

Rebecca Kmet Texas Retired Pharmacist wrote on Jul 16, 2008 8:38 PM:

" TO WATCHDOG FRED: You do not understand that HIV can be transmitted through latex gloves or condoms or through the skin without cuts or sores. The blood of an infected person can be transmitted by a mosquito that is engorged on an AIDS patient's blood. The government is engaged in a massive coverup of the facts of HIV/AIDS and the possible ways of transmission. Why? There are several reasons. Newsweek, March 18,2007 said unless 20% of the baby boomers die by 2010, Social Security and Medicare will go bankrupt. Another reason is that Russian scientists who developed HIV at the Ft. Detrick, Maryland, research labs as GUESTS of President Nixon in an exchange program that became permanent...resulted in RUSSIAN PHYSICIANS and SCIENTISTS being promoted into public policy making positions at NIH and CDC according the Dr. Douglass book "AIDS AND THE END OF CIVILIZATION." It is like a horror movie with people being eliminated in ways other than wars. Slow poisons are helping, too, like aspartame, corn syrup, MSG, Round-up in potatoes, insecticides in foods, GMO foods with moth and fly DNA to cause acid reflux,poisons in milk to prolong shelf life, etc. "

Melissa wrote on Jul 17, 2008 2:31 AM:

" Joe, this is absurd. Stating that no one has insurance is incorrect...I know a lot of people who have insurance....and I know some who don't. I know some who pay their medical bills and some who don't. Insurance coverage and HIV are really none of your business unless you have the disease.
Remember the people who are infected? yes please remember them because they are still human and deserve to have their quality of life maintained.
What people should think about when they go to the polls is humanity. What I think is a touch more outragous is that serial killers and rapists and murders are allowed to marry in prison, that they get free health care, awnings and misters for outside, etc. Those people who have injured society should be the ones who suffer just has their victims have. Homosexuals have not done wrong to anyone.
Yes bless the freedom of speech! DOn't vote ignorant at the polls. Be human. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jul 17, 2008 7:25 PM:

" To: Rebecca Kmet Texas Retired Pharmacist wrote on Jul 16, 2008 10:38 PM:
You know you had me all the way up to the milk comment and then you lost your wind and credibility. First of all I was in the dairy business at very many levels and their are not poisons in milk and dairy products to prolong the shelf life. They had chemists not pharmacists but true scientists who test and evaluate milk as it comes in and as it goes out. There are random bacteria testing done with milk, ice cream and vaious other dairy products and if the bacteria count is too high that product doesn't hit the shelf. Dairymen are even putting their very businesses on the line when signing a statement that they don't use RBST which is a growth hormone in their herds. Many are doing this even though the FDA or any other government agency hasn't concluded that using RBST is harmfull to the herds. You are in the wrong part of the country to be talking this jibberish, this county and Tulare County are famous for dairy herds and milk production. Your wrong! "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jul 17, 2008 7:33 PM:

" To: Rebecca Kmet Texas Retired Pharmacist wrote on Jul 16, 2008 10:38 PM:
You want to very anything I have told you just call the Milk Advisory Board and see if I haven't stated fact over your fiction Rebecca.
You shouldn't come on here and try and scare people into believing AIDS is just rampant and waiting to attack everyone. Seniors have poor imune systems already if AIDS was as volatile as you lead us to believe the government would be stacking bodies in the streets. Baby Boomers which you are a part of are not dying off in droves and they won't for some years to come. I would be willing to be that more senior heterosexual men are dying from exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam than are dying from the AIDS epidemic as you call it. You need to pack up your mobile home and move to area 51 and keep watch. There you might be abducted by ailiens and be examined and then returned for afternoon shuffle board. I think you need to change your name to Mrs. Phobia, or Paranoia. Don't forget the little bed bugs too! "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jul 17, 2008 7:35 PM:

" To: Rebecca Kmet Texas Retired Pharmacist wrote on Jul 16, 2008 10:38 PM:
You want to know the biggest epidemic killing mankind as we know it today. It's a rat a special species, it's called the Welfare Rat they are taking away all we have to pay for their lazy lifestyle. Now that truly is in epidemic proportions. Between baby making machine adults and teen pregnancies this area can't get it's head above water. So if you want to look at change, change that will ya? "

I cant stand this wrote on Jul 17, 2008 8:26 PM:

" Yes, you can get FREE HIV testing right here in Hanford at the Kings County Health Department 8-5 M-F, and they will answer every question you have. And furthermore, if your worried about who is footing the bill for non-insurance patients then allow Gays to marry so they can have healthcare coverage through there spouses. Lastly, nobody cares what you are doing in your bedroom (right or wrong) why do you care about everyone else. If we really want to cure AIDS then we need to not blame but to work together to find a cure and find those already infected and prevent it from spreading. I encorage and even dare everyone reading this to get tested. In the time it took to read all this you could have been tested and given your results. It takes 20 mins. Show you actually care about the spread and the cure of AIDS and are not just a hateful person. Get tested tell your freinds, loved ones, and even the people you hate to get tested becasue until everyone is tested we will never have a chance at beating this disease, "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jul 19, 2008 1:45 AM:

" Rebecca Kmet Texas Retired Pharmacist wrote on Jul 16, 2008 10:38 PM:

" TO WATCHDOG FRED: You do not understand that HIV can be transmitted through latex gloves or condoms or through the skin without cuts or sores.
"REBECCA" if I am to believe what you say then explain to me why Kings County is handing out prophilactics to everyone in the county to prevent against all STD's including AIDS? Can you answer that for me, perhaps call the County Health Nurse and get her to confirm what you say. "

cynic wrote on Jul 21, 2008 12:37 PM:

" I think it best just to read Rebecca's responses and leave them be. I still don't get what selling computers to the Russians and going broke has anything to do with the credibility of Missler. And of course then she brings up Hal Lindsey and any credibility she might have had goes right out the window. Let's just read and ignore. "

Rebecca wrote on Jul 22, 2008 5:24 PM:

" TO Watchdog FRED: You do not read what I write nor do other readers. I speak with knowledge. The size of the HIV virus is to small, it goes through latex gloves and condoms. The reason for handing out condoms "to prevent HIV" is to kill people while pretending to do them a public service. Newsweek March 18, 2007 had an article that said unless 20% of the baby boomers die by 2010, Social Security and Medicare would go bankrupt. Abortons kill off the young. Slow poisons in food and beverages help kill off the young and not so young. Telling the young condoms prevent HIV is a way to infect them and reduce the population. The Georgia Guidestones look like Stonehenge and are in Georgia and were erected by the Masonic Lodges. On each stone is a world objective. One of the objectives is to reduce the world population to 500 million people. There are 6 BILLION people on earth. So to accomplish that for a sustainable earth, a lot of people have to die. The bible says, "My people perish from lack of knowledge".Ask MerryLoo of Lemoore about her infected nurse friend who got AIDS during surgerywearinggloves. "

Rebecca wrote on Jul 23, 2008 12:45 PM:

" TO WATCHDOG FRED: The US government is running out of money and the only way to erase the debt to Red China which is many trillions of dollars is for them to forgive the debt or for there to be a war to erase the debt. When the King of France owed more money to the Knights Templar than he could ever pay back, he outlawed the Templars and killed many of them and they fled to Switzerland and Scotland and set up banking systems in safer places. According to Pravda as reported in Noah Hutchings' "Prophetic Observer" newsletter Premier Putin of Russia recently went to the E.U. to tell them Russia and Red China are about to attack America and for the E.U. to stay out of it or get nuked, too. Last I heard, it was a male that causes a pregnancy, so your concern about government heiresses and welfare queens is about to be address by God. He is going to kill off a lot of fornicating males in America in wars. Any male who wants to survive had better get right with God so he goes to heaven or survives the coming wars. Ditto females. "

Rebecca Patterson-Kmet Texas Retired Pharmacist wrote on Jul 23, 2008 9:28 PM:

" To Watchdog FRED: Were you in the US military long ago? I am sure you found your Recruiter lied to you to get you to sign up unless you were drafted. You quote a GOVERNMENT publication when Dr. William Campbell Douglass II says RUSSIANS are making policy making decisions that are insane in America. Russia and Cuba put HIV/AIDS patients into quarantine, but America does not because enemies of the country are making policies. The devil is the prince of this world and he is a murderer. He loves for people to die and finds all kinds of ways to accomplish that, hoping they die unsaved by the Lord, his greatest enemy. There are people who want to reduce the world population to 500 million from 6 and a half BILLION. Start listening to Dr. Stan Monteith's lectures and read his essays and books. He is an M.D. and Ph.D. and founder of Radio Liberty. You want the world to be a nice place and the government to be honest. Even the US Justice system is so DIShonest, fomer Wall Street Journal Editor Paul Craig Roberts calls it he American INjustice system. Reality is HEARTBREAKING. People in Africa are dying.Americaisnext. "

Melissa wrote on Jul 26, 2008 3:44 AM:

" On vacation I read an article on the rise in HIv cases in America....guess what demograohic is growing...heterosexual Hispanics...the ratio is 1 in 4 hispanics, just as fast as Africans. Guess gay marriage won't increase the cost of HIV treatment all that much after all.... "

Mike T wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:15 PM:

" That is so crazy how Watchdog can bring up welfare out of any subject!!! There has to be a Sentinel Moderator watching this and realizing how strange this man is!!! "

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