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City council candidates face off at forum

Six candidates running for office in Hanford traded ideas and concerns -- and even a few barbs -- Wednesday night at a meet-the-candidates forum, where they answered questions on issues ranging from the future of the city's public swimming facility to the destiny of downtown and to smart growth.

Speaking to about 120 people at the Civic Auditorium, the Hanford City Council candidates agreed that the city should step up its efforts to revitalize its historic downtown district.

Most of them also concurred that Hanford's next direction of growth should be eastward -- although, warned Dan Chin, District C incumbent who has served two terms, "The city grows where the sewer flows. The east side cannot be developed until we figure out how to fund the infrastructure." His challenger, Mike Spicer, said the city should look beyond the east side, perhaps even the south side, an area historically neglected. Others echoed Spicer's idea.

Meanwhile, the candidates appealed to Hanford residents who chose to come to the local forum despite the highly anticipated last presidential debate. Sponsored by the Hanford Chamber of Commerce and The Sentinel, the event offered a unique opportunity for the candidates to spontaneously answer questions and articulate their positions on issues.

Candidates showed their sharp differences on hot-button issues, such as the future plans for the city recreation complex on Lacey Boulevard marked with the public pool known as "the Plunge," the old fire station, the skate park and the Serpa auto dealership.




The city council earlier this year gave a Southern California developer an exclusive right to explore a commercial development there and negotiate a possible purchase of the city-owned property, although city officials have said what might be done with the land remains up in the air. Nevertheless, the council's move has prompted an outcry from those who advocate keeping recreational facilities downtown and preserving the historic fire station structure for community use.

Chin said the city should keep an open mind about the potential of the property.

"The bottom line is, I would be negligent in the responsibility for residents of Hanford, if I didn't listen to everybody who wants to do business with Hanford," Chin said, adding that developing the property would bring additional tax revenues to the city and reminding that the skate park is not in a good location and needs to be moved.

Sue Sorensen, one of four District B candidates, took the same stance on the issue, saying the city must "think outside the box." "The park may be better in another location that is more visible," she said. "Let's take the blinders off and check all the options."

Chin's opponent, Spicer, opposed the idea of ever selling the property off to a private developer. "I have to disagree with you," Spicer told Chin. "I think your thinking is flawed: Let's get intoxicated with possible new revenues. That's what the state does."

Spicer advocated for refurbishing the old fire house into a community center that senior citizens, youth and community members could use, and for keeping all the facilities in the current location.

Three District B candidates, Robin Mattos, Jon-Michael Hice and John Murrisky, also advocated for keeping the Plunge and the skate park.

"Leave it alone" was Mattos' slogan when it comes to the Plunge. Mattos also called for building a recreational facility in the south side.

The candidates also showed their philosophical differences in the way they view housing and economic development for the city.

While Hice said maintaining the vitality of downtown is key to economic growth, Murrisky went further and said economic growth comes through small businesses. Murrisky also favored a temporary moratorium on housing construction in the current real estate market conditions and growing housing vacancies.

Mattos agreed with Murrisky's cautious approach to growth, while also advocating for establishing Hanford as an "incubator" for entrepreneurial businesses and start-up firms. "We cannot depend on outside and foreign dollars to maintain and re-establish ourselves," she said.

Spicer favored continued housing growth, while Chin chose to explain at length about how the general plan -- or the city's constitution for land use decisions -- is key to how the city controls its economic destiny and promote his experience: "I'm the only person up here who has been involved with three previous general plans. My experience is necessary for Hanford to take the next step."

The candidates also addressed to the homeless issue.

Hice said he wants to form a multi-disciplinary task force to explore new approaches to address the "growing issue."

"As a council person, I would advocate for city staff and fellow council members to work collaboratively to identifying current efforts undertaken by nonprofits and faith-based organizations," he said.

Mattos advocated for giving funding to community organizations doing the work -- an implied criticism against the way the council recently distributed its funding. Murrisky said it is pointless to try to help those who do not wish to help themselves.

Chin and Sorensen said the city must balance its compassion toward the homeless and its responsibility to ensure the homeless won't become a health and safety issue for the rest of the residents.

Chin said the homeless issue is a county issue, not a city issue. Spicer disagreed and said it is a city issue and it requires a more proactive intervention by the city.

The most tension in the forum was between Chin and Spicer, with Spicer jabbing the incumbent for taking large campaign contributions from business and development interests.

During the forum, candidates were asked who were their top three contributors.

Among those Chin listed were the Kings County Board of Realtors and downtown furniture store owner Craig Johnson, whose contributions ranged from $1,500-$2,000.

Spicer, who said his campaign is funded by himself and his wife and $200 from a "friend who felt sorry for me," questioned Chin's connection to special interests.

"To me, it's a red flag," Spicer said. "I can understand a $250 donation from an individual. But $2,000 from a business owner and $1,500 from the Realtors board -- it's a red flag."

Chin countered in his closing statement that the monetary support he received reflects his popularity.

"My opponent called it a red flag. Certainly, you can interpret it that way, but I have dozens upon dozens upon dozens upon dozens of people who contributed to my campaign. And they've done this because they know and appreciate the 30 years of community service I've given this city," Chin said.

"I didn't turn the money away from people who wanted to support my campaign," Chin said. "Some would say it's a red flag, but I'll tell you it's a badge of honor for people who want to see Dan Chin continue in his leadership role ..."

Sorensen said her largest contributors are her father; Danny Todd, a trustee of the Hanford Joint Union High School District; and Mike Robinson, owner of Robinson's Interiors Carpet One. Murrisky said he did not take donations larger than $100 from residents of his district. Hice said his campaign is funded by himself and his relatives. Mattos said her campaign is also largely self-funded, while noting a $100 donation from family friends.

At the conclusion of the forum, audience member Francisco Ramirez of Hanford said he had wanted to hear more specific ideas for expanding Hanford's recreational opportunities. "We need more recreational services, like a dollar theater, especially in this economy when people cannot afford to pay so much money," Ramirez said. "We need more things to occupy our youths. Hanford has one of the highest pregnancy rates in the state. It concerns me."

Greg Strickland of Hanford said he wanted the candidates to address how they would prevent cronyism in city contracts. "I'd like to see them address what they are going to do with outsourcing contracts," Strickland said. "What kind of competitive bids are coming in, who puts in the bids, what bids are accepted, whether they are high bidders or low bidders -- I think these are important issue, because it concerns economics of scale. Are we paying too much for what we are getting, or is there special interests involved?"

Not all questions submitted by the audience were answered.

These questions which were not answered during the two-hour forum Wednesday will be e-mailed to the six candidates. Their responses will be published in The Sentinel as soon as they are available.

(Oct. 16, 2008)

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The following are comments from the readers. In no way do they represent the views of the Hanford Sentinel

cynic wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:18 PM:

" How are the homeless a county problem. I see them sleeping withing city limits. Maybe they should go and camp out on Chin's lawn. "

Big John wrote on Oct 16, 2008 5:13 PM:

" (continued)
Six of the campaigns are largely self-funded. None of the challengers seem to have a broad base of support from which to collect donations. The rhetoric of “I don’t take large donations because I want to represent all of the people” doesn’t make sense if you can’t afford to get your message to the voters. I assume they each have business associates, fellow church members or charitable organization acquaintances that should have been willing to support them.

A five minute break was offered about an hour into the event. The Sentinel reports that around 120 people were in attendance. I would agree with that number. Two things they didn’t report were that 80% of attendees came to support one or another of the candidates and 60% of the audience left during the first break.
(continues) "

Big John wrote on Oct 16, 2008 5:14 PM:

" (continued)
Our economy in trouble, local unemployment is rising, local businesses are closing and everyone I know is cutting back. Even so nothing of substance was touched upon by any of the candidates. Partly the forum was to blame as fixed questions stifled open debate (like "Define Leadership"). But everyone could have used their opening and closing remarks to address these important issues. “Save the plunge” seemed to be the best they could do.

I believe in candidate debates and wish to thank the Sentinel and Chamber of Commerce for hosting this one. I plan on attending when another is held. I would encourage the organizers to do two things next time; advertise the event more aggressively and alter the format so real questions and real answers can be discussed in real time.
(end) "

Big John wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:47 AM:

" Sentinel Editorial Staff:
Thanks for posting my blog submission.
It appears you missed the first piece (it was 3 parts) and without it my comments seem disjointed. It would be great if you'd add part one above my other comments. I'll resubmit it in the next post.
Thanks! "

Big John wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:50 AM:

" I attended the candidate’s forum last night. By the time it was over I felt mostly disappointed. Allow me to share a few of my thoughts:

Most of what the candidates said can be summed up as motherhood and apple pie. “Save the plunge, revitalize downtown, attract new business, fill vacant offices and homes and help the underprivileged and homeless.” Little was said with which many could disagree, and even less of what was said was actionable.

Few solutions or new ideas were unveiled. Everyone agreed the City Council needed to “think outside the box” but none could give concrete viable examples.

The candidates were largely ignorant of how Hanford operates. It appeared they really hadn’t done their homework. I counted 17 separate statements, like “we have only one fire station and desperately need more”, which were clearly incorrect.

Contradictions were flying fast and furious. “I’m against growth, except in the areas in which I support growth.” “The city must be fiscally responsible, except we should also spend huge amounts of money revitalizing the old fire house.” “Revitalize downtown, but don’t develop one of the very few viable parcels owned and controlled by the city.”
(continues) "

Warden Bob wrote on Oct 17, 2008 11:17 AM:

" I attended the Sentinel/Chamber candidates night and came away with a different impression than Big John. I thought that Mr. Spicer's call for opening up the bidding process on City contracts to protect taxpayers made good sense. In addition Mrs. Mattos's call for a in-house city attorney rather than a contracted position was a substantial proposal worthy of further discussion. Both of these candidates seem to be offering well thought out proposals representing real change.

Additionally, different proposals on
public safety facilities such as building a new police station were offered. One candidate (I think Spicer) saying that we should look at converting the old Walmart building into the needed new police station.

Big John your comment that "Save the plunge” seemed to be the best Spicer, Hice, Mattos etc. could do, is in my opinion without merit. I do agree that some of the questions selected could of been better by being more issue focused and also feel the one minute time period for answers to questions was too short.

All in all it was a great event the Chamber and Sentinel deserve our thanks as a community. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 17, 2008 11:48 AM:

" I'd like to begin my remarks by thanking the Hanford Sentinel and the Chamber of Commerce for sponsoring the event. I did attend and can tell ya the exchange between Mr. Chin and Mr. Spicer was exciting to say the least. But I do have to say I agree with Mr. Spicer on this one, an incumbent who spends that much money to be re-elected does send up red flags. Mr. Chin went on to elude that the Council Members just would not be able to formulate the next growth plan without his supervision, which I considered a rather biased opinion. Which demonstrated a disrespect for Ayers and all the other Council Members. I would think as I've stated before anything Mr. Chin had to offer should have been offered over his as he puts it thirty 30 years serving the city of Hanford. I noticed he didn't mention in the growth future of Hanford the three story downtown parking garage, he wishes to tear up part of historic downtown Hanford to build. I say if you want to pattern yourself after Visalia, just move there. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 17, 2008 11:56 AM:

" I thought all the new candidates had many important and vital offerings. However, Mr. Chin spoke as I've heard from the City Council so many times before in a manner that gives you the opinion, your opinion doesn't matter. He and his fellow members know what is best for this community and any citizen that doesn't hold a seat on the council will not be heard. Because he and the other members no what's better for the city than any of us mear citizens do. It is that very attitude that makes me want all members replaced. I don't like being spoken down to and I certainly don't like the incumbent telling me he will do it his way. I always thought they were elected to do it our way, but I guess somewhere we got it crossed up. I thought that is what true service was, listening and following the judgement of your citizens not thinking for them. Replacing your moral character for their own or using your wants, needs and desires over theirs. Mr Spicer, impressed me with his credentials and demonstrated leadership. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 17, 2008 12:08 PM:

" The remaining four candidates all had very profound ideas and many offered solutions I've not heard from the present Council. Which quite honestly was refreshing to hear. The meeting was informative and interesting throughout, some very excellent questions were asked. However, I do have to admit when Sue Sorenson spoke I felt as though Marcie Buford was running all over again. In fact I noticed the two left together at the end of the night. Mr. Murrisky made a profound statement regarding change he preferred to substitute We need change with we need improvement. Overall, I say I have to agree with him the city needs improvement. But I'd like to add the City Council needs Change. The old fund it, fund it needs to go away. Mr. Spicer also inserted that an new accountability with fair bidding practices needs to be put in place and I whole heartedly agree. The city often times pays too much for it's outside services. He also indicated where possible we should utilize local business, keep the dollars spent locally. Remember our former slogan Hanford Has It! Well use it. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 17, 2008 12:14 PM:

" To Big John:

I too agree that questions asked from those in attendance verbally with an immediate response would be a nice addition to any future debates among the candidates. I think even the candidates were expecting that and time just didn't allow I guess.

I also felt like any incumbent or people who had ran for office before had a deffinate advantage over those first timers. They seemed to anticipate the questions rather than hearing them for the first time. Since no one was made aware of them, I would say it was from past experience that they seem to anticipate them. I do feel questions were too centered on downtown business rather than the overall community we live in, only a couple of times was the east or south brought into the questions. "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 17, 2008 3:29 PM:

" A question for candidate Mattos:

If elected will you give up your membership/ownership in H.E.A.T.?

Has H.E.A.T. provided you with any campaign funds? "

cynic wrote on Oct 17, 2008 3:40 PM:

" Thank you ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Big John show! "

Joe Friday wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:56 PM:

" Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 17, 2008 5:29 PM:
" A question for candidate Mattos:

If elected will you give up your membership/ownership in H.E.A.T.?

Has H.E.A.T. provided you with any campaign funds? "

Carl give it a rest, have you ever tried talking to Mattos? The literature she left at my house lists her phone number. She is quite a reasonable and articulate person, do you have a problem with women in power?

I believe all campaign finance reports can be found at the Hanford City Clerks office. Perhaps this information will help relieve your anxiety and fixation with the Mattos's.

A referral for a good therapist that might be able to help you can be found at Kings County Mental Health. I remember reading that there are new drug therapies which have proven quite effective for these type of conditions. "

Warden Bob wrote on Oct 17, 2008 10:20 PM:

" Thanks for the post cynic, Big John has the floor, again and again. He sounds disappointed some of his favorite candidates didn't get a copy of all of the questions in advance.

Big John, you seem to have big ideas, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and run for an office yourself? Your opinions are so close to the current incumbents, you'd cozy up just fine! Or do you already have a cozy place and don't want your nest of feathers disturbed?

Dan Chin is ineffective. Out of touch with reality and believes our city cannot function without him. Sue Sorensen is a follower, not a leader and hasn't had an original idea without Chin's input for the last 4 years. Remember the Media Policy Committee?

Neither of them can do anything but toot their horns and follow marching orders. They are funded by special interests and need the guidance of the unelected council member Dick Jacques.

Spicer, Mattos, Hice... ANYONE but Chin, Sorensen and their puppetmaster Jacques. "

Boredtwotears wrote on Oct 18, 2008 12:46 AM:

" I too attended the "debate" if you call it that. More in fact is should be called a misinformation gathering of ignorant people. I thought that most statements were complete fabrications designed to impress the general audience having no real merit. Example, We need to increase the size of the police, fire and Emt services, also we need to revitlize the old fire house. Sounds nice, but where do you get the money from? Also, if you are making a statement that we need a second fire station, maybe you should make sure we dont all ready have two... or actually drive to the south side of Hanford and see for yourself.
Ultimately, the few people that actually showed up were probably in fact family or direct supporters of the individual canidates. So of the entire group attending the event I would wager that less that 5( generous figure) had actually gone into the event undecided. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 18, 2008 2:49 AM:

" If you were present and listened to Mr. Chin and Mrs. Sorenson divulge their donations to their campaign you get a significantly different version than is reported in a separate blog today. Mr. Chin failed to mention the Political Action Committee for Realtors in town donated $1,500.00 to his campaign, he made it seem much less significant. I also think he shouldn't have accepted any contribution where his decision in the next growth plan for Hanford could be effected financially. Are the Realtors simply making a payoff for his contributing growth to their specified regions? One might think so with the size of the contribution.
Mrs. Sorenson failed to mention she had collected in excess of $6,000.00 for her campaign. The other members specified in dollars and cents their total campaign contributions. Chin and Sorenson didn't do that they stayed on topic and answered the question as it was asked and didn't offer their total campaign nest. If not for reporting requirements we might not still know the facts surrounding contributions to them both. I can't believe an incumbent with all these ties needs that large a war chest for reelection. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 18, 2008 3:00 AM:

" Mr. Chin exactly where does this three story parking garage you wish to build in historic Hanford downtown going to be built?

Where is the funding to build it and will it be as abtrusive as the one Visalia built in it's downtown area?

I've also noted after talking to many Visalians the only one's really enjoying the downtown parking are those employed by the city of Visalia who work downtown. The citizens I spoke with said it made little to no difference where they are concerned. They still can't find parking at Kaweah Delta Hospital.

What other wonderful visions do you have for Hanford's new growth plan you'd care to share with us? Amazingly you think money is available to build a three story structure in downtown Hanford but not for sewers and water and infastructure on the East side of Hanford. How convenient that is for you and your vision of how to make Hanford grow?

The stagnant offerings by Marcie Buford and Dan Chin for their Hanford, don't fit our vision of Hanford. Do we really want another term of Marcie Buford in Dan chin? "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 18, 2008 3:06 AM:

" Here is some thinking outside the box. We have all dealt with credit in our lifetimes. If growth is wanted on the South and East sides of Hanford why can't we do that like with credit in installments. No one says all the sewer has to be built in one year, all the water at the same time, all the utilities at once. Sure everything underground should be to save on costs. But do it in sections a piece at a time every year until you have what is needed in place. $20 million dollars sounds enormous but what about $2 million dollars for ten years? Does that seem a little more affordable? Who knows as you are doing these projects as they are finished contractors may be willing to bring in more services or co-pay on existing one's to develop projects in that area. Perhaps an organization like Habitat For Humanity might be interested or some other faith based organization to jump start growth in a new area. We don't take advantage of the community based faith based organizations as much as we could and should. "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 19, 2008 10:48 AM:

" Andy Friday: No answer to the question? It has been brought up now in three blogs with no response. That says a lot. "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 19, 2008 5:35 PM:

" Fred: Development on the east side will happen when some developer makes it happen. The city will not initiate it, they will wait until someone comes forward and fronts the project. Then eveyone else that ties in later with reimburse the developer. The city has no money for something like that. Lots of land in the northwest and southwest to burn through beforre anyone turns their attention to the east. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 20, 2008 6:34 AM:

" Carl, quite obviously you weren't present during the discussion. Several candidates/public have voiced disapproval of the funnel that seems to run to the North West and West in the city of Hanford. Many think it is time for other areas of the city to finally get their fair share as do I. There have been more projects in the areas you point to in the past ten years than any other part of the city. Do to a large part the deterioration of the infastructure in many of these areas they are not being developed. No single developer wants to come in and bite off that large an expense to develop. It is nonsense that this cannot occur, they sold bonds to develop the north and west why can't they do the same thing for the east and south part of the city. Why should the west be the only place to receive shopping centers. There was even talk of a development by Mr. Chin that has been planned for Hwy. 43 and 10th Ave. that would include a major shopping center expansion. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 20, 2008 6:41 AM:

" Carl, there was even wise discussion of placing the next High School on either the East Side or South Side of the city. Why not, there is a generous portion of the population in these areas as well? I think that demonstrates forward thinking on the part of the candidates, that they are open to new ideas for growth. Not all of them believe the grass is only green in North or Northwest Hanford. They realize lawns grow in the east and south as well, people in those areas also pay property taxes, pay sales taxes that contribute to the overall growth of the city. Developers want to build east they just need help doing so, why wouldn't they with all the development in the areas you speak of the land has shot out of sight for them to continue to pay almost twice the price for it. Just think Carl, if the infrastructure was in place it might have been a no brainer to build a Re-entry facility out there? Then you would have gotten your 30 million dollar jail expansion and all those new high paying jobs you wanted? "

Joe Friday wrote on Oct 20, 2008 2:16 PM:

" Carl Spaker wrote the development in east Hanford will not happen until a developer pays for it. Carl, who paid for the 12th Ave sewer line that now fuels westside Hanford growth? Wasn't it a Federal Grant along with some matching funds from the city? Didn't the new Frontier school pay to drag sewer out to property near 13th ave from that 12th ave sewer main line?

Carl, who paid to bring the sewer line to the new high school from the 12th ave main line and why was that line oversized? Did a developer then pay to plug into a sewer line that already existed thus avoiding the full cost of the infastructure? Who benefits from these expenditures of school tax dollars and are they clients of yours? "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Oct 20, 2008 3:09 PM:

" I was not in attendance, but I am very curious. How much do these positions pay? It is just like the presidency, is it for sale? They are talking about 100's of millions of dollars being spent on a job that only pays $400,000 a year! Not a good Return On Investement (ROI) to me. Is this the same for these local positions? Are they paying more on advertising than the job pays? Is so, then why? How come I have been in Hanford for 6 years, never had any correspondence from Mr. Chinn (spelled wrong on purpose), and now he wants to tell me how good he is? Afraid of losing a comfy job that pays more on the side somehow? Or is he really a true patriot and really cares for his fellow citizens? For all of you out there, you can can the name as you feel comfortable, because I for one am starting to believe that all of our politicians are crooks, stealing our money. Back to the old days of taxation with representation. "

jfmurrisky wrote on Oct 20, 2008 4:56 PM:

" To: Cynic
From: John Murrisky, Candidate Dist. B
Re: Homeless

I did address this issue at candidates night. All the other candidates were very compassionate with their replies to the homeless issue...even stating that it was a "county" problem. I disagree. I followed one home and helives with some else in a very nice house. He makes approximately $15,000 a year on the Walmart entrance...he pays no taxes and has no committant to Hanford! After everyone else finishes with the usual Church groups and helping hand organizations...they may want to agree with me i the end...let's get them off the streets and into rehab for alcoholism and into mental health for their problems. It's "our" problem to handle...let's not pawn it off onto the County!
Thanks you...John Murrisky "

jfmurrisky wrote on Oct 20, 2008 5:04 PM:

" To: Big John
From: John Murrisky, Candidate Dist. B
Re: Business & Employment

Big John...your right...we didn't have enought time to address the unemployment issue and business closures...I did briefly. O fthe 50 businesses in town that I talked with personally...2 closed that week and 2 more will clsoe by end of year. Only 4 businesses are really making any $$$. due to lack of sales, higher costs of operating (rent) and Thursday nights being a negative issue towards local bussinesses (as they have stated), many local business people are taking a real hard look at downtown Hanford. Also the questions were not asked from the public but from a selected panel.
Thanks: John Murrisky "

jfmurrisky wrote on Oct 20, 2008 5:06 PM:

" To: Big John
From: John Murrisky, Candidate Dist. B
Re: Specific Question

Big John...if you have a specific question of me...ask it!
Thanks: John Murrisky "

jfmurrisky wrote on Oct 20, 2008 5:09 PM:

" To: Warden Bob
From: John Murrisky, Candidate Dist. B
Re: Candidates Night

Thanks for reinterating the info regarding candidates night. Any questions?
Thanks: John Murrisky "

jfmurrisky wrote on Oct 20, 2008 5:14 PM:

" To: Watch Dog Fred
From: John Murrisky, Candidate Dist. B
Re: Candidates Night

Thank You for listening at the forum! Some one heard what I was saying. We need improvement in Hanford not change. We need to utilize the old Mal Mart and maybe put the City PD, Hfd. offices and all the rest into it! It does have a vehicle service area in the rear and plenty of parking for public parking...we could also put the traffic division in there so folks could pay their fines easier...what a novel idea. As for the old fire house...I liked my idea with placing the Seniors on the first floor and the Rec. dept..on the top floor to supervise the Plunge and the skate park. Any Questions?
Thanks: John Murrisky "

jfmurrisky wrote on Oct 20, 2008 5:24 PM:

" To: All
From: John Murrisky, Candidate Dist. B
Re: Beliefs

We need to stop spending on building more empty houses in town...with 800 vacant nor unsold homes in Hanford...how about ashort term moretorium on home building...let the plumbers and carpenters work on existing homes! There's plenty of work out there. employment...this is a hard one...businesses are taking a downturn in profits & growth...just look at downtown...let's wait until the State of Calif. allocates our funding to see what we got 1st, Yes, I am in favor of saving the plunge, old fire house and more...let's utilize our existing structures in town if possible to bring more businesses into town..where is our economic corp. anyway?, lastly...any Questions?
Thanks: John Murrisky "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 20, 2008 7:44 PM:

" Fred: The market dictates where development goes, not the city. Right now the market says we are building in the northwest and southwest. That is where the buyer interest is and that is where the infrastructure is in place. There is probably another 500 acres in the northwest to burn through. Quite a bit more than that in the southwest. So I think it will be a while before the east is in play, unless some unusual propsal like that golf course comes throught. "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 20, 2008 7:47 PM:

" Joe Friday: I would imagine the major contributers to the 12th Avenue line are McMillin, Centex and Lennar with help from Pioneer, the State and HJUHSD. "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 20, 2008 7:56 PM:

" Mr. Murrisky: I was wondering where you got the 800 vacant home figure? I think that is pretty high. As far as a moratorium goes, a good many of the home builders have already left town and there are only three builders in the northwest at this point. Centex and Lennar are gone. The new home inventory has tightened quite a bit.

What you may want to zero in on is quality of new development. Subdivisions that connect with each other. Master planning of large areas for parks, trails etc. Better landscaping along the exteriors that someone actually takes care of. More streetlights. We have no trails here. Next to no bike lanes. Few parks.

I appreciate your willingness to participate in this forum. "

letmegetthisstraight wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:38 PM:

" Carl: Total agreement.

Andy Friday: Mrs. Mattos needs to answer on the forum. Many more people are interested in her stance on the lawsuit issue and her being able to step away from H.E.A.T (etc.) without intrusion, involvement or influence in it.

I’m no researcher by nature but since we seem to get “allocated” information about the No on Walmart lawsuit, I went into public records to view. Mrs. Mattos should be proud for spending our hard earned tax dollars but do you know the real deal? We not only paid for the City of Hanford to be represented but quite a few of our FEDERAL and CALIFORNIA STATE resources had to respond to that lawsuit and believe me, that is not free, paid by tax dollars. Other governmental agencies that had to be involved in the lawsuit TAXPAYERS PAID FOR were: U.S. Dept. of Fish and Wildlife, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, State of CA Dept. of Fish and Game, State of CA Dept. of Transportation and the State of CA Valley Air Pollution Control Dist. (this was only ONE of the multiple lawsuits). "

letmegetthisstraight wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:39 PM:

" Now, what is Mattos’s relation with the following individuals/groups who have been listed as plaintiffs against the City of Hanford (and Federal and State agencies)? Valley Advocates (multiple suits filed throughout the State of California), Richard Harriman (attorney), Hanford Environmental Awareness Team (HEAT) (three suits), Hanford No on Walmart (Hanford NOW) (one suit), Hanford Citizens for Responsible Planning (HCRP) (six suits), Association of Irritated Residents (AIR) (one suit), Center for Race & Poverty (one suit) and Hanford Taxpayers Association (one suit). Thirteen suits in our area alone!

These are questions that not only I want to know before I sign on the dotted line, Hanford residents must know and have confirmation that our dollars in this economy will not be wasted any longer by groups Mrs. Mattos is affiliated with. In addition to that my candidate needs to be able to voice my opinion not recuse half the votes due to potential conflict. An informed public will make informed decisions. "

jfmurrisky wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:10 PM:

" Carl I got the figure from a local realtor, who I trust for housing information and figures. Yes, we only have a couple left...have you seen their quality of work on the homes that they have built here..I wouldn't buy one, especially for the %350's that they wanted. As far as quality areas...I proposed a green belt for every housing development area going in and they laughed at me! My daughter lives up north and no divider nor builder can construct any homes without a green belt, walkways, tree, lighted and improved areas and prlenty of oak trees. These green belts are 3 miles long and 1 block wide, with doggie paths (with Pooper scoopers and plastic bags/garbage cans) which the city takes care of...their is even a Rose garden at both ends which the local ladies prune and take care of. What a beautiful sight...why can't we do this? Yes we can and stop the over densing of homes in divisions where you can look out your window and see your neighbors dress or undress, cook and do others things. Hows that?
thanks John Murrisky "

jfmurrisky wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:15 PM:

" To: All
From: John Murrisky
Re: Hidden Valley Park area

There are 18-20 acres of undeveloped ground up at Hidden Valley Park to the immediate West, along the RR track. This is earmarked for park, trees, grren grass and playground for the kids. This was Simon L's dream. Yes Mr. L. was my mentor and teacher, and he did endorse me in Dist. B. Unfortunately he passed away to be with God, but he is still with us in spirit.
The rest of the council wants to sell it off to you know who Mr. J and develope it into apts. or housing...what a dumb idea...along the RR tracks!
Please support me in this election and together we can build parks, develope green belts in housing areas and clean up this Town! Hanford, deserves better. I need a Senior council to help me out by providing ideas!
Thanks to all,
John Murrisky

John Murrisky "

jfmurrisky wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:17 PM:

" To: All
From: John Murrisky
Re: Vacant houses

As my wife and I wlaked Dist. B...from July to Oct. we counted at least 1-2-3 vacant house per street. We walked 144 streets from Magnolia to 6th, from 10th to 11th Ave. Thats, 144+ in one Dist B only, there are 5 districts plus new vacant housing...the number seems high but is actually realistic.
Thank you,
John Murrisky "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 21, 2008 4:41 PM:

" Letmegetthisstraight: Good luck on getting an answer to that concern. Mrs. Mattos has been artfully dodging it for three threads now. "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 21, 2008 4:49 PM:

" Mr. Murrisky: According to the MLS, there are 217 homes on the market in the City of Hanford. Add a few more for FSBO's and some foreclosures not in the MLS, let's call it 300 for sale in the city.

I like the greenbelt idea. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 21, 2008 6:49 PM:

" John, I agree with your proposed use of the old fire house. I also like your idea of using the Wal Mart for Police and City Offices and of course there is working service bays left behind where the city could perform repairs on city vehicles. Not only would that make a visit to a utility more accessible for everyone, it would free up a lot of downtown parking. Allowing for more profitable presentations at the Civic Auditorium and better use of the park and it's amenities. Placing the Senior Center in the Fire House makes sense on two plains it not only gives them a handi-capped accessable building it puts the youth and the seniors together. As you stated the Senior's in this community could teach the children things that are not being taught at home these days. Such as respect and how to get along with everyone of any age, race, creed or color. These are lessons that have somehow become extinct in the hoods. One of the worse things Hanford ever did was cutting that Hwy. 198 corridor between North and South Hanford, Houtson Avenue would have been better. "

letmegetthisstraight wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:58 PM:

" Carl: I've made my decision based on the first time she dodged and that the major contributor is a special interest loan from her co-heat chairperson. It's past words and dictated in Mattos's actions. There are two dogs in the fight however, only one proposing a greenbelt with poop bags which is attractive to me and my four legged best buddy. "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:55 PM:

" Fred: I'm not trying to be cute or anything but what exactly is a "senior center?" "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 22, 2008 9:15 AM:

" Carl, I think it is a tug at my leg you are offering here. The Senior Center is where senior citizens meet and socialize, play games ie., bingo, card games etc., plan bus trips and enjoy community involvement in town. You are according to your history approaching the age yourself. Actually to be considered a senior in many places now you merely have to have attained the age of 55 years young to participate. Some centers serve a meal for a price and allows Seniore who dine alone to have an atmosphere where they can share a meal and conversation and enjoy each others company.
I hope this answers your question for you. "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 22, 2008 3:12 PM:

" Fred: Thanks for the info and at 50 yrs, it will be a few years before I can legitimately call myself a senior. "

jfmurrisky wrote on Oct 22, 2008 3:16 PM:

" To: All
From: John Murrisky
Re: Ole Sear Building

Finally something being done to the old Sears building downtown...Credit Union is moving on this place...finally! Had a hot dog downtown and met some old friends and talked...had a lovely afternoon just sitting there. Noticed the new "Lush" beer & wine business on the corner, next to Fox Theater...great! Something is slowly happening downtown...now to get more mom & pop businesses into downtown. How about replacing some of that asphalt on 7th, Irwin, Douty & Redington with a green area with trees, fountains, art and letting people gather in greeness? Any comment here?
Thanks all, John Murrisky "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 22, 2008 4:37 PM:

" To Carl; Fred says with tongue in cheek! "Well in some circles they are already calling you and old _ _ _ _. So what difference does it make? Be glad you are living to see it come down the pike, I am. Some of my many friends didn't make it this far. "

delbert wrote on Oct 22, 2008 5:57 PM:

" John Murrisky,

I think the "greeness" you are seeking is called the Hanford Auditorium and Old County Courthouse/Jail. From talking with the local homeless I can tell you they love it. They especially enjoy hooking their heaters, radios and computers into city electricity for free. "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 22, 2008 8:15 PM:

" Mr. Murrisky: The first two things that will help in the downtown is more lighting and less sleazy bars. It is dimly lit downtown which makes it feel unsafe. The sleazy bars dominate after dark. There's too many of them. It just doesn't feel safe down there. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 23, 2008 9:45 AM:

" To: Carl Spackler, I have reposted your comment, would you rather see Re-Entry Centers abounding in the downtown area of Hanford? We all know you think they pay great salaries and would improve the neighborhood, how about right next to your graffiti ridden building?

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:15 PM:

" Mr. Murrisky: The first two things that will help in the downtown is more lighting and less sleazy bars. It is dimly lit downtown which makes it feel unsafe. The sleazy bars dominate after dark. There's too many of them. It just doesn't feel safe down there. "

Carl, perhaps if bars scare you, you should stay clear of them, that is what I do. That way I don't have to be influenced by the knife wielding clientel. Bars can't refuse service to someone who hasn't pulled a knife yet. Many of those bars have been there for years and years and never had a problem. It seems like the problem is created in the newer establishments, and you are categorizing them all in the same group. Isn't that a bit prejudice on your part? "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 23, 2008 9:51 AM:

" To: John M., I think we have plenty of green downtown. But you are right the asphalt does need replacing, it is cracked, uneven, and looks horrible, not to mention difficult to traverse.
We don't seem to have money to take care of those problems, but we can pay an attorney out the kazoo! Go figure, more responsible decisions brought to you by the incumbents of the city council in Hanford. I do agree with one of the candidates offerings a fulltime on staff city attorney with a salary for his/her services, with a clause stating the salary and benefit package is the limit to their fees for service. No change without a complete renegotiation in front of the citizens of Hanford. That makes all the sense in the world to me. How say you John M.? "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Oct 23, 2008 12:29 PM:

" To all, no one has answered my question of exactly how much do these positions pay? "

hanfordian wrote on Oct 23, 2008 1:03 PM:

" Mr. Murrisky,

The panel screened the questions that were submitted by the public and Chamber members. The questions were screened for relevance and fairness, only. "

jfmurrisky wrote on Oct 23, 2008 2:33 PM:

" To: All
Downtown...less bars...more greeness! sorry, I still like my idea...but the majority will rule. More lights...okay let's try that 1st...then get rid of the bars. City Attorney should work better...it's worth a try...an employee not contracted. To keep the police downtown, how about the old chevy dealership area? That's a viable option and make the old police station a sub station or training center or just sell it off to another attorney for an office or business center. Ideas on this one?
thanks all,
John Murrisky "

jfmurrisky wrote on Oct 23, 2008 5:38 PM:

" To: NotHomeGrwon

I understand it pays $400.00/month only for the amount of work that is involved. Most of us (4) that I heard only spent less than $900.00 each in campaign expenses. Two others have spent moee than $$$ (thousands).
Thanks...John Murrisky District B "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 23, 2008 5:43 PM:

" Mr. Murrisky: The old Robert's Chevrolet property is on the market and would make a fine redevelopment project for the city. It would extend the positive trend and nice work done by Salmon's Furniture another block east on 7th. The east 7th Street area is an untapped market. "

Warden Bob wrote on Oct 24, 2008 7:27 AM:

" NotHomeGrown wrote on Oct 23, 2008 2:29 PM:
" To all, no one has answered my question of exactly how much do these positions pay? "

A City Council position in the City of Hanford pays $400 per month. Makes you wonder why some would spend $10,000 to get elected doesn't it? "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Oct 24, 2008 10:18 AM:

" To those that responded with the salary, thanks. I presume then that some of these members must be independently wealthy, because I know at least one that loves to contribute to the wealth of the local casino's. (Now I feel a little better knowing that it isn't the city funding this compulsion). And for those that really do attempt and or are in this positions for the betterment of the community, my hat is off to you as the saying goes. To take so much abuse for only $400 you must either be a real patriot or there must be some other lanes of revenue. I know that I can't live on $400. Again for the honest people out there, please don't take my response as totally negative, but I do have to wonder, and not just the local elections, why so much money is spent on getting such a low paying position. And why is my BLUE recycling container getting so full of all of the garbage about why candidate A is more courageous than B. Stick to your plans, con't "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Oct 24, 2008 10:19 AM:

" con't: spell out your plan, and if elected do your best to bring your plans to fruitation. Don't be afraid that if the majority requests you to change your plan then do so, for remember you are elected to represent us, not dictate to us. "

rocketman wrote on Oct 24, 2008 8:56 PM:

" dont forget the health insurance benefits, can oyu believe the sentinal endorsed sur chin, i mean sue sorensen. I bet the city insurance is better than a small business owner can purchase. "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 25, 2008 11:50 PM:

" Rocketman: So your point is that these good folks running for council are "cashing in" at $400 per month and insurance. I'll bet that works out to about $3.75 an hour for time spent. Maybe it's for all the good vibes and notariety on the Sentinel blogs.

Come on, get real! "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 27, 2008 5:12 AM:

" Carl.Spackler wrote on Oct 26, 2008 1:50 AM:

I wonder if when they retire like Marcie and Dan soon will if they have lifetime coverage on insurance? That could be worth more than any amount of money, especially if you are often already utilizing it. "

Big John wrote on Oct 27, 2008 1:09 PM:

" The members of the Hanford City Council are given the same medical coverage options as city employees. If they wish to pay 50% of the cost for one of the four offered medical plan options the city will pay the remaining 50%. Currently only one councilperson has opted to participate in the medical program. From direct knowledge I know that councilpersons Buford, Chin and Gonzales do not purchase medical coverage. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 29, 2008 4:50 PM:

" To: Big John wrote on Oct 27, 2008 3:09 PM:

I was under the notion that any form of disclosure regarding one's (health) or health insurance up to and including verification, was strictly controlled by the new HIPPA laws in place? I would certainly think a public forum would not be the place to post the information, regardless of it's impact on the community?

Correct me if I am wrong! "

rocketman wrote on Oct 30, 2008 5:36 PM:

" And from direct knowledge I know that councilpersons Buford, Chin and Gonzales do not purchase medical coverage.There, now we are even and our statements mean the same. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:35 AM:

" To rocketman, so by posting the paste below you are telling me this public notification/verification is not against the HIPPA laws inacted last January with all changes? I think you might want to check that one out! Passing on medical information is also covered in that statute. By direct knowledge if you mean you write the policies, you may be in some serious trouble rocketman. These are very serious violations and punishable by fine and imprisonment.

rocketman wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:36 PM:

" And from direct knowledge I know that councilpersons Buford, Chin and Gonzales do not purchase medical coverage.There, now we are even and our statements mean the same. " "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:44 AM:

" To rocketman, please read the following post:

All healthcare providers, health organizations, and government health plans that use, store, maintain, or transmit patient health care information are required to comply with the privacy regulations of the HIPAA law.

In the following statement you will see where even the uninsured are protected:

Although many existing state laws provide protection of personal health information, the new regulation is designed to enhance existing protections. When federal and state laws conflict, the stronger privacy protection prevails. The standards apply to all patients whether they are privately insured, uninsured or participants in public programs such as Medicare or Medicaid.

http://womenshealth.about.com/library/weekly/aa122100c.htm

This is the website this information was obtained from rocketman. You might want to study it, before you comment further. "

Delbert wrote on Oct 31, 2008 5:33 PM:

" As is typical, Watchdog Fred, you jumped to a false conclusion. HIPPA does not apply when the insured (or in this case insurance waived) person publically shares their healthcare coverage decision. When they tell others in open forum it is no longer private or protected. "

rocketman wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:35 PM:

" Why does the counter say only 7 comments, shoot watchdog has 14 comments by himself, trying to make sure no one checks?

Well, Mr. Watchdog, are you interpreting this to mean the mere saying someone has insurance violates this policy, oh my gosh, I was just pointing out the absurdity of reading a comment and believing they actually have direct knowledge, all in fun big dog! "

citizen_id wrote on Nov 2, 2008 8:05 PM:

" Delbert wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:33 PM:
" As is typical, Watchdog Fred, you jumped to a false conclusion. HIPPA does not apply when the insured (or in this case insurance waived) person publically shares their healthcare coverage decision. When they tell others in open forum it is no longer private or protected. "
Delbert, do you see any posts from Marcie Buford, Dan Chinn or Joaquin Gonzalez here regarding their opting out? I don't. I never heard Chinn say anything at the candidate's forum about opting out. Only some know it all called Big John saying he knows. The only person that should know is Mary Lindsay or the Risk Management person at the City of Hanford. Are you saying Dave Thomas and Dave Ayers both buy the insurance? Ayers' wife gets insurance through her job and so does Ayers. Chin buys the insurance and the retirement I hear. When he loses this race, he'll go back on Medi-Cal and MediCare (as he was before) because he's disabled.Even with his big war chest, I doubt he's gonna win. When Chin goes, Jacques will lose his 6th member status. What a shame! Go Mike Spicer, give'em heck! "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 9, 2008 4:38 AM:

" Delbert wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:33 PM:

Del if you look at that front row in the picture above you can see me. I was at the candidates meeting where insurance for council members wasn't even a subject that was discussed. Further, the only one's I've seen blogging about it are bloggers not the candidates themselves. So I would say Big John's comments violate HIPPA LAW! Along with your comments about the wives insurance covering the other Council Members.

I only brought up the HIPPA LAW because I don't think anyone's insurance information should be public.

The candidates have not said not to talk about it, but they haven't given permission to talk about it. That is what HIPPA is all about if you knew anything about it, you must attain permission before leaking, discussing or passing out information regarding someone's private medical records. I will paste this one more time for you:

The standards apply to all patients whether they are privately insured, uninsured or participants in public programs such as Medicare or Medicaid.

So the law applies even to the uninsured rocketman, delbert & Big John. "




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