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Will the "real" America please stand up?

According to Sarah Palin, she and John McCain "believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hardworking, very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation."

Um, very, um. ... Yeah.

Palin later backed away from these remarks, but the McCain-Palin campaign's staff and surrogates -- and even the guy at the top of the ticket -- keep hammering the same message: Some parts of America -- and some Americans -- are just more authentic and "pro-America" than others.

On Saturday, for instance, McCain adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer suggested that although northern Virginia may have "gone more Democratic," "real Virginia" (the "part of the state that's more Southern in nature") will be "very responsive" to McCain. Rep. Robin Hayes, R-N.C., joined the chorus, telling the crowd at a McCain rally, "Liberals hate real Americans that work, and accomplish, and achieve, and believe in God."

Hayes, like Palin, later forswore his remarks, but on Tuesday in western Pennsylvania -- one of the few parts of the state where Barack Obama doesn't hold a clear lead -- McCain worked the same theme: Western Pennsylvania "is the most God-loving, most patriotic part of America."

The GOP code isn't hard to crack: There's the America that might vote for Obama (a suspect America populated by people with liberal notions, big-city ways and, no doubt, dark skin), and then there's the "real" America, where people live in small towns, believe in God and country, and are ... well ... white.

The divisive GOP rhetoric we've been hearing lately is hardly new. But with each passing year, the "real" America of GOP mythmaking bears less and less resemblance to the America most Americans live in.

About 80 percent of Americans live in metropolitan areas, not small towns. A third of us are ethnic and racial minorities, but that's changing: Already, nearly 45 percent of children under 5 are minorities. Although 88 percent of us believe in God, 70 percent think that religions other than our own are equally valid routes to truth. And while 59 percent of us think that wearing an American flag pin is a decent way to show patriotism, even more of us (66 percent) think that protesting U.S. policies we oppose is a good way to show patriotism. These days, more than half of us say we prefer the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

Given this, why do McCain, Palin and their team keep pushing the message that the America where most of the electorate lives isn't "real"?

The GOP hasn't been the party of reality-based thinking for some time now. "When we act, we create our own reality," a "senior Bush adviser" (assumed to be Karl Rove) told journalist Ron Suskind in 2002, and this became the administration's version of a game plan. Thus Donald Rumsfeld's conviction -- shared by McCain -- that we would be "greeted as liberators" in Iraq. For GOP leaders, the Iraq that erupted into a violent insurgency just wasn't the "real" Iraq.

We're now seeing the same pathology at work in the McCain-Palin campaign. McCain and Palin look at America and see what they wish was there, rather than what's actually there: an America in which they'll be greeted as liberators and rightful heirs to the mantle of leadership. America, after all, has been led by white Anglo-Saxons for the last two-plus centuries and, for the last 40 years, mostly by Republicans. For that to change is almost unthinkable. And so Team McCain just edits out the inconvenient America that doesn't seem likely to vote GOP. That America's not real. It just can't be.

I'm not entirely without sympathy. Behind the anger and the us-vs.-them rhetoric we've seen at recent McCain-Palin rallies, there's a palpable sense of dislocation and anxiety: the anxiety of those who feel that things are slipping away from them, that the world is changing too quickly and too uncomfortably. Change has come fast -- and change hurts.

But that's how it's always been. Our culture was built by immigrants and shaped by wars, social upheavals, economic crises and further rounds of immigration, each time from places that seemed deeply "foreign" to those who had already settled in. Each round of change was painful to those used to the temporary status quo -- but each round of change also gave us a richer, stronger nation.

That's the real America: a land of change and perpetual renewal.

Let's stand up for it.

Brooks is a professor at the Georgetown University Law Center. E-mail her at rbrooks@latimescolumnists.com.

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Scott Tucker wrote on Oct 26, 2008 3:34 AM:

" I think it has been firmly established by some of the more sophomoric posters on this forum that I, a US citizen, who was born in Missouri and raised in Hanford, California, am definitely not a "real" American, simply because I choose to exercise my very American and Constitutional Right to express my opinion regarding my country's policies and myoptic leadership. Dear readers, please vote for change. Please vote for an America, where all citizens are considered real Americans. Please vote for Obama/Biden 2008! "

Alihandero wrote on Oct 26, 2008 4:12 PM:

" Rosa Brooks, of the Human Rights Watch and the Open Society Institute and foreign policy advisor to the Kerry-Edwards campaign in 2004, says this:

"Team McCain just edits out the inconvenient America that doesn't seem likely to vote GOP."

"Inconvenient America?"

Really?

Oh, she must mean:

- Like the fish that was approached to register and vote Democratic?

- Or the liberal-solicited ‘Mickey Mouse' perhaps?

- How about the thousands of fictitious voters or the dead voters registered on the Democrat's roles?

So I guess we can now call the Democrats the champions of the ‘convenient' Americans, eh, Ms. Brooks? "

Sid wrote on Oct 26, 2008 6:22 PM:

" Scott, what are you whining about? You can say as many dumb or misguided things as you want! It is your right as an American citizen to do so if you choose to...

As you do. Just as it is my right to critique your views and/or ask those hard "black & white" questions. Such as what would YOU (or even Obama) do if Iran was on the edge of getting or in fact obtained nuclear weapons against all UN non-poliferation efforts. (Recall that blog perhaps? You didn't answer that one, you avoided it. Obama won't be able to do that...).

To the article, I think the author doesn't understand where the lines are at becoming unpatriotic. Such as Obama mentor Senator Durbin calling our troops "Nazi's", or Murtha saying Marines committed murder when they didn't. Or Murtha calling his own fellow Pennsylvamians "racists". Or Obama saying some Americans "Cling to their guns & religion" in a derogatory fashion or stifiling individual desire to achieve via the redistrobution of wealth; socialism, not part of American History (so far).

Not only is all the above DIVIDING Americans, it is both dumb and in the troops case, unpatriotic too. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 28, 2008 4:47 PM:

" Scott Tucker, you are always talking about a perfect America and how we should follow all the rules. Well along this line I must ask why we are trying to elect a foreigner as President of the US?

Barack H. Obama had until his twenty first birthday a birth certificate issued from Kenya. He was at five years old attending school in Indonesia, under another last name and was said to be adopted. The reason we know he had to have a foreign birth certificate is any child attending school in Indonesia had to have papers stating they were of Indonesian Birth. There is written, documented proof of all this and no one cares to validate it especially the Obama Camp.

So in your conquest for truth justice and the American Way, why would you ignore the Constitution of the United States that clearly states, I pasted this for you:
"Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States."

Why are you voting for an ineligible candidate. His father was clearly a resident of Kenya? "

jeff wrote on Oct 29, 2008 12:11 PM:

" Fred, sorry but you’re wrong. It has been proven over and over again that Barack is a citizen of the U.S. You’re spreading a lie and one that makes you look quite silly to intelligent people. Again, you have no idea what you’re talking about. "

Deb wrote on Oct 31, 2008 10:17 PM:

" Watchdog - do you truly enjoy sharing ignorance?

Do you even know the constitution? Native and Natural are two different words, two different meanings and the only one that counts is "natural" He's a "natural" citizen. His mother was a US born citizen which makes him a "natural" citizen.

HOWEVER, go to factcheck.org to see a copy.

For someone who's served in honor of our constitution you sure have a way of ripping it up in shreds by furthering lies.
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

Quit reading the viral emails - they make you look bad. And, I believe you probably have a great heart, but jeeeezzz... "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 1, 2008 7:46 AM:

" Scott Tucker wrote on Oct 26, 2008 5:34 AM:

Well in all honesty Scott Tucker, I find your statement at the top of this condemnation of white america in line with your most wholesome thought each and every day. Because in reality, that is all this article amounts to conveying.

We should show you more respect because you choose to claim you pay taxes when further investigaton says the first $94,000.00 you make is tax exempt. Well Scott, unless Switzerland has a lot higher pay scale than California, you aren't paying one red cent.

You live thousands of miles away and act like you should be able to elect local City Council Members to their posts. Why? Why when you aren't even an active property tax paying, sales tax paying city resident? It is not your tax dollars being spent they are exempt! I see a complete unadulterated case of lie after lie on your part concerning how you support the state & federal government with your tax dollars. Sure the exemption is legal, but it has to come from another source, not you. How evasive? "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 1, 2008 7:53 AM:

" jeff wrote on Oct 29, 2008 2:11 PM:

It's very simple if I and others are not truthful have your candidate present an American Birth Certificate. Have your candidate prove that his Kenyan born and a citizen of a foreign country is now all of a sudden a United States Citizen.

I'll post this again Jeff, I know sometimes you have trouble with digesting the truth!

"Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States."

Do you not see the both citizens in that sentence. He certainly was not native born when he was born in another country in Indonesia.
Barry attended schools in Indonesia, according to Indonesian law you must be a citizen to attend their schools. Foreigners may not attend.

He never sat foot in Hawaii until years later, check it out, if you don't believe me. Have him produce a picture of his Grandmother holding him as an infant in Hawaii, it's as simple as that. But be sure it is in Hawaii, before you claim it. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 1, 2008 7:56 AM:

" jeff wrote on Oct 29, 2008 2:11 PM:

Won't it be amazing if Barack Hussein Obama wins and John S. McCain challenges his citizenship and overturns the election by default.
Then what say you Jeff?

Show me one kindergarten lunch slip or bus pass made out to Obama for elementary school. You can't as stated before he held on to his Kenyan citizenship until the age of 21. So he rightfully can and will be disqualified to accept the position of President of the United States.

He and Arnold are in the same boat and he is doing everything he can to cover that up. "

gaucho mom wrote on Nov 1, 2008 8:21 AM:

" Who's watchdog are you, Fred? Certainly not mine. The birth certificate issue is dead--it's one of many red herrings thrown about by the disgraceful McCain campaign. Fortunately for the campaign, the ignorance of American public can always be counted on and they get away with telling lies and mudslinging in a desperate attempt to win the election. Obviously you have swallowed the Kool-ade and you are not alone. You need to listen to something other than Fox News and Rush Limbaugh if you want to know what's going on.

Scott, you're right on. "

Scott Tucker wrote on Nov 1, 2008 9:57 AM:

" Fred, You regularly claim to be a wise and learned man and yet you are only now learning about tax treaties between different nations. Sheesh!

As far as my taxable income and personal wealth are concerned, I will let you speculate further on the subject. Your "speculations" are a great source of amusement to us readers. "

Alihandero wrote on Nov 1, 2008 5:04 PM:

" Hey "Watchdog,"

You said about Scott:

"We should show you more respect because you choose to claim you pay taxes when further investigation says the first $94,000.00 you make is tax exempt. Well Scott, unless Switzerland has a lot higher pay scale than California, you aren't paying one red cent."

I dunno know, maybe he takes his pay in high-value Euros too...

So THERE is the motive for expatriates who live in a ‘tax haven' and pretend that they will be coming home ‘at some future date.'

Talk about working the system, eh?

It's apparent that it gives him great purpose and comfort to vote on local issues without ever being here.

And just look at his few supporters slapping him on the back!

Well, they could do that if he actually lived and worked here.
_______________________________________

Anyone wanna try at another Bloggers Get Together?

It's getting that time of year you know. "

RoyalCity wrote on Nov 1, 2008 5:05 PM:

" I'm with Gaucho Mom.

Watchdog Fred . . . give it a rest and expand your exposure to other than Bill 0'Reilly; Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and others of the same ilk. Your views may be different if you listened to viewpoints of others instead of "parroting" what you may have picked up listening to others. Spend some time and study issues! "

Alihandero wrote on Nov 1, 2008 5:16 PM:

" Hey Scott,

You said:

"Your "speculations" are a great source of amusement to us readers."

Is that good grammar, Teacher?

And, since you are not in the neighborhood, so to speak, who are the 'US' you mention in the Land of the Swiss?

Sounds elitist to me, but, then again, 'we' know that about you.

And back on topic: "Will the "real" America please stand up?"

Your vote for McCain/Palin will keep those traditions we hold sacred and the identity, no the SOUL, of the United States of America, intact for the next generation.

That, fellow citizens and patriots, is simply the right thing to do. "

WATCHDOG FRED wrote on Nov 2, 2008 8:21 AM:

" gaucho mom wrote on Nov 1, 2008 10:21 AM:

gaucho's aren't those suppose to be cowboys in south america?

Well if you really want to know what's going on review the vast pages of paperwork your candidate has submitted as proof of residence, health records, college transcripts, job information etc., all you have to do is wait till hell freezes over for him to submit them. What could he be hiding? "

Sid wrote on Nov 2, 2008 1:44 PM:

" The things you learn from blogging!

WF states here Mr. Tucker, a US citizen residing abroad, doesn't have to pay US taxes on the first $94, 000 of his income.

Mr. Tucker doesn't deny it. In fact he compliments WF on his new knowlege of tax treaties between nations, then further says "us" readers enjoy WF's "speculations"...

Based on the written word here, Mr. Tucker doesn't pay much IF ANY US or State & Local taxes, didn't deny that, and yet is very opinionated on "income redistrobution" and the selfishness of his political opposites when others balk at their "patriotic duty" to pay, by inference, HIGHER TAXES.

This isn't putting money where your mouth is with a shared burden. This is taking a seat at the dinner table without doing any of you chores (aka "Patriotic duty") and launch into a diatribe on how everyone else should behave and what they need to do!

Such unbelieveable brass... "

Scott Tucker wrote on Nov 3, 2008 2:30 AM:

" To all of you self-proclaimed patriots. Again, none of you know how much money I earn or what my taxable income actually is, so I suggest that you reconsider your baseless claims, before you make yourselves look even more foolish than you already have. Are you really suggesting that all American citizens living abroad who somehow earn less than the established taxable income limit are not patriotic? And how many American citizens live abroad? An estimated 3.5 million or more. Such unbelieveable brass to insult so many fellow citizens!!

You guys can continue to try and silence my opinions and attempt to make me look like a "fake" American, but I am sorry to say that your efforts are now and always will be futile. By smearing fellow American citizens, your claim that you yourselves are the true patriots rings very hollow! "

Alihandero wrote on Nov 3, 2008 3:25 AM:

" Hey Sid,

Right on when you said of our liberal friend:
"Such unbelievable brass..."

I have found these unapologetic liberals have a heaping portion of ‘brass...' and then some.

Just think of all of the proud American presidents that occupied the White House.

Consider the tremendous burden to keep and preserve the sanctity of the Office of the President, never to defile or besmirch it.

Then recall public testimony about unnatural and inappropriate sex acts, adultery, presidential misconduct, impeachment, all in the House of the President while he was on duty.

Of course that was a powerful Democrat with Presidential ‘brass ones'. Don't know any Republicans, Whigs, or others that disrespected America in quite that way.

To the shame of his wife, child, family, party, and sadly our wonderful country.

Yes, I do believe I know who I will vote for tomorrow! "

Sid wrote on Nov 3, 2008 10:38 AM:

" Mr. Tucker,

Didn't proclaim myself a patriot as you state. (An aside, my volunteer military service speaks for itself).

I only used what YOU said to make a point, not against all those American's overseas, but you specifically as you are the one who expressed himself here. Others overseas have not expressed themselves here and may have different circumstances than you.

Again, I used YOUR communications here to frame a discussion. If their is some modification to what YOU said based on YOUR back & forth here with others, then YOU can correct that.

But if you DON"T pay any or little in US taxes due to your expatriate status...

Just how can you seriously relate to those who do? How can you say what "we" should spend on tax money on when you don't pay anything into that pot?

If you won't feel the pain of any tax increases, then how can you weigh in on those who object to them who do have to pay them?

Besides, it was YOUR party of favor that classified paying (increased?) taxes as "Patriotic". By THEIR definition, are you?

Remenber that Tea Party? "

jeff wrote on Nov 3, 2008 2:01 PM:

" Hey Fred riddle me this, you say in one comment that Obama is Indonesian “Do you not see the both citizens in that sentence. He certainly was not native born when he was born in another country in Indonesia.” And then on your next comment you say he’s an African “Show me one kindergarten lunch slip or bus pass made out to Obama for elementary school. You can't as stated before he held on to his Kenyan citizenship until the age of 21.” Well, which one is it? "

dose wrote on Nov 3, 2008 6:41 PM:

" Dont you know Jeff, Obama is a Kenyan, Indonesian, Muslim, Communist, Atheist, Black Liberation Theology, Christian. He obviously hates America, and will destroy this country. Atleast that what Sean Hannity tells me, and we all know he has never been wrong before. "

RobertD wrote on Nov 5, 2008 2:08 PM:

" Our new V-P elect would be very angry with Mr. Tucker. Didn't Joe Biden say it is our patriotic duty to pay taxes? I doubt he meant hiding from that obligation by living overseas and hiding behind "tax treaties." "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 8, 2008 6:29 AM:

" To: jeff wrote on Nov 3, 2008 4:01 PM:
I am glad you brought that up, it is as confusing as I stated it.

Obama does have the right to claim Kenya as his birthplace simply because Kenyan law allows it. He does not have the right to claim US citizenship because we do not, we require both parents be citizens if he is born overseas.
It's been reported he was actually born in Kenya while his mother visted with his father. Therefore he would have Kenyan Citizenship which he claimed until he turned 21 years of age.
But the problem is he will not present documentation of his paperwork for entering Columbia or Harvard that would indicate his citizenship. The only thing he has supplied is a Birth Certificate from Hawaii that is suspect because one copy of it has a seal and another copy of it doesn't. All copies should have a seal especially the original copy.
So his citizenship is till in question, all he has to do is supply the documents. When McCain was questioned about his citizenship he provided the original BC and 1500 pages of medical records. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 8, 2008 6:31 AM:

" To: jeff wrote on Nov 3, 2008 4:01 PM:
Another interesting note of interest: when Obama's aunt and Obama were asked which hospital he was born in they gave two different hospitals. Yet his aunt was suppose to have been present at his birth. She was in Kenya, don't know if it is the one who still resides in Boston illegally or not. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 8, 2008 6:47 AM:

" Hey Al,

You want to see why we can't get anything done in Congress follow me to: http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg

This is why the average Joe can't make ends meet, this is why the american companies are going by the wayside, this is why all our money is going to China, schemes and themes of this nature. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 8, 2008 2:28 PM:

" Scott Tucker wrote on Nov 3, 2008 4:30 AM:

You come before us, insult the United States and what it stands for then you suggest we are picking on 3.5 million people abroad who choose not to live and work in the United States.

Did you catch that expatriate, "they choose not to". Secondly, none of us have said; a word about the 3 million 499,999 others. Just the one who continues to comment like a regular local paying taxes and living and breathing Hanford air. Who in fact lives and works in Switzerland and prefers to vacation in Europe than come home. Could you imagine the retirement we tax payers could have enjoyed if we had the same exemption all our working lives?

So, enjoy your extra income and realize you don't have the right to complain about where the troops are sent, where the same sex marriage issue outcome is, or arsenic in the Hanford Wells.

Because you contribute not one iota to the cause. You do not place as much as a shilling toward education in California. So next time you complain, remember that, "

Carl.Spackler wrote on Nov 9, 2008 1:14 PM:

" Fred, just guessing but I'm thinking gaucho mom has a kid at UC Santa Barbara - "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 9, 2008 6:04 PM:

" To: Carl.Spackler wrote on Nov 9, 2008 3:14 PM:

Really Carl, here all this time I had gaucho mom pegged as having a daughter going to U.C. Berkeley or San Francisco State who would text gaucho mom what to think on a regular basis. That much more liberal attitude if you know what I mean.

Regardless, we may have lost the Presidential election but in three states we won the same sex marraige debate, hopefully once and for all.

Carl, are you buying your gasoline at the Buford's connection, you seem to know a lot about it. Talk to the owner on Irwin Street about his inventory he purchased and paid top dollar to her for, it might open your eyes a little. Can anyone say out of code, out of date, stale. That's what he told my wife, he bought a bunch of stuff he just had to throw away off the shelves.
There is that warning again Caveat Emptor, "buyer beware". "




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