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Voting to a different drummer

When Randy Stiefer steps out of his big-rig truck, people might guess that the 6-foot, 5-inch, 300-pound Corcoran man is a Rush Limbaugh-loving conservative who can't stand tree-hugging liberals. They would be wrong, because the 36-year-old Stiefer is a tree hugger and a member of the Green Party. "I'm a strong environmental activist," Stiefer said. "I see the Republicans and Democrats as like two sides of the same coin. They both are very corporate-minded." Then there are voters like Byron Dallas -- a nurse who believes that when it comes to politics, people don't need government to hold their hand. Dallas is a Libertarian, which puts him at odds with both Republican and Democratic policies that give government a big role in people's lives.

Married with one daughter, the 24-year-old Lemoore man doesn't buy into the hackneyed speeches that Republicans and Democrats like to make about "change."

A real change in the status quo, Dallas proclaims, should start with a third party.

"There are two major parties, and people from both sides keep talking about change," Dallas said. "I think the biggest change would be to give a third party a chance."

As the election charges toward the finish line, the two major political parties are throwing millions of dollars into mailers and TV ads.



Apolinar Fonseca/The Sentinel Sandra Bega is a registered Libertarian. Bega, a devout Pentecostal, said that she puts the Bible before anything else, even libertarianism.


Lost in the shuffle are tiny political parties and their voters, who rarely get any media coverage.

But in a sea of Kings County voters who call themselves Republicans or Democrats, there are 1,746 local residents like Stiefer and Dallas who march to a different drumbeat.

Going Green

Stiefer's environmentalism goes back to his mother, a Greenpeace activist who was once arrested for getting in a small boat and protesting a Russian ship dumping waste into the ocean.

Stiefer and his mother also brought their passion for protest to Kings County.

"We both got arrested up there at Kettleman City, when they were first putting that Chem Waste facility in," Stiefer said.

Stiefer said the image of truck drivers as members of the "hardcore right" is 90 percent accurate.

Not wanting rip-roaring arguments that might turn into fistfights, he generally keep his views to himself.

Those views are not easy to categorize.

On the one hand, he believes in hard work. On the other hand, he believes that government should guarantee certain things to people "so they aren't going to be taken advantage of" in the marketplace.

"I'm a capitalistic socialist," he said.

He's against Proposition 8 on the grounds that "what people want to do is their own business."

Proposition 8 would outlaw same-sex marriages.

But he's for Proposition 4 on the grounds that parents should be involved with their kids' medical decisions.

Prop 4 would require parental notification for a minor to get an abortion.

He'll probably vote for Ralph Nader, who is running for president as an independent.

He wishes that the Green Party had more access to public funding. Maybe then, he feels, the message could be heard.

Stiefer said that if he lived in a swing state, he'd probably vote Democratic, because "obviously I'm more in line with Democrats than Republicans."

But California being a solidly Democratic state, Stiefer feels free to vote for either the Green Party candidates or other minority party candidates who are more in line with his views.

Stiefer said he doesn't feel politically isolated in Corcoran. He said he has plenty of politically independent friends who "pretty much" agree with him.

Hanford, too, has dozens of voters who aren't happy with the dominant political parties.

Cornelius O'Brien, a landscape contractor, yearns for a more open system where third parties would have a greater chance of victory.

"I'd like to see a more liberal democratic movement, one that isn't as indebted to campaign contributions," O'Brien said. "There is a lot of stagnation in Washington. I'd like to see public campaign financing, to make the place more democratic."

In this election, however, O'Brien is voting for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama "because I think he is more concerned with the needs of ordinary people."

'Not a wasted vote'

Dallas, 24, grew up in a Republican family. That didn't stop him from following his heart and registering Libertarian when he turned 18.

He has been a staunch Libertarian ever since.

Like Stiefer, Dallas is an example of how decisive a third-party voter can be. He is determined to vote for Bob Barr, the Libertarian presidential candidate.

Dallas knows it's a long-shot campaign for Barr. But he is voting for him anyway.

"Realistically, I may be throwing my vote away, but I don't look at it that way," Dallas said. "You've got to follow what you believe in when it comes to voting ... I'm pretty concrete in my Libertarian views."

Dallas is voting against Prop 8.

"Personally, I'm for homosexual marriages," he said. "As long as somebody's pursing their own liberty and not taking away anybody else's, I don't think it's detrimental to society."

As a parent, Dallas was a little more conflicted about Prop 4.

But he still says he will vote against the measure.

"It's tough because I've got a young daughter," Dallas said. "Every parent wants to know what's going on with their own daughter's life. But if we do pass Prop 4, I think abortions are still going to happen. People will pursue other avenues. I'm afraid it would increase runaways and back-alley abortions."

Thirty miles and a dozen farms away in Corcoran is Sandra Bega, a 54-year-old employee with the Tulare County Office of Education helping children with special needs, is also registered as a Libertarian.

But even so, she and Dallas are miles apart on their views.

Bega, a devout Pentecostal, puts the Bible before anything else, even Libertarianism. In many cases, she ends sympathizing with the Republican position on issues like abortion restrictions and same-sex marriages.

For example, she is for Prop 8 and Prop 4.

"This is the future of my grandchildren," said Bega, who has seven of them. "I don't want anybody telling my grandchildren same-sex marriage is OK and abortions are OK. First and foremost, I am with the Bible."

Bega said that's the reason she's voting for Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

"Are we going to take the more moral way or (go with) the world," Bega said. "If I voted for Obama, I would be compromising my beliefs."

But Bega has always had an independent streak.

In 2000, Al Gore got her vote. In 2004, she rejected George W. Bush and John Kerry and voted for Libertarian presidential candidate Michael Badnarik. This year, she said she would be voting for McCain.

"I have 113 nieces and nephews," Bega said. "I hope that our leaders and their decisions would spare them from the evils of this world. That's why I vote the way I do."

A protest vote

For Kings County residents who registered as members of the Peace and Freedom Party, the decision seemed to be more of a protest against Republicans and Democrats than a strong identification with Peace and Freedom principles.

"I want something to change," said first-time voter Magdalena Mendoza, an 18-year-old Corcoran resident.

Mendoza, however, voted for Obama, and is planning to switch her registration to Democrat as soon as she can.

"(Obama's) speeches inspired me. I felt that since I voted for him, I should be in the same party," Mendoza said.

Shawna Jones, a 32-year-old divorced mother of three in Armona, said she went with Peace and Freedom because she "just wanted something different from what we have."

"I don't like the Democrats or the Republicans. I think America is based on being bigger and badder. I think we are getting our nose in a lot of stuff that doesn't pertain to us," Jones said.

However, she plans to vote for McCain, primarily because she feels his views best reflect her Christian beliefs.

"I went to church, and the pastor said not to vote for somebody who is clearly going against God's wishes on abortion and homosexuality," Jones said.

Commentators note that alternative parties like Peace and Freedom provide an outlet for disaffected voters.

And the more people who vote for a third party, the greater influence that party can have on the policy decisions of Democrats and Republicans, said Stephen Graham, political science instructor at West Hills College Lemoore.

And when enough voters go for a third party, it can change the outcome of elections, Graham said.

Graham noted that Ralph Nader's decision to run as a Green Party candidate in 2000 may have siphoned enough votes away from Al Gore to give George W. Bush the victory.

Graham also noted the spoiler role that Ross Perot probably played in the 1992 presidential election.

Running as an Independent, Perot won 19 percent of the popular vote, the highest percentage a third-party presidential candidate has received since Theodore Roosevelt in the 1912 election.

Many of the votes that went to Perot, experts believe, would otherwise have gone to George H. W. Bush.

But even if they don't capture enough votes to sway elections, Graham said, third parties are attractive to people with strong beliefs that don't always fit into the major party platforms -- people like Stiefer and Dallas.

"I think you'll always -- as long as you have a two-party system -- you'll always have minority parties," Graham added.

Sentinel Reporter Joe Johnson contributed to this report. The reporters can be reached 583-2432 and 583-2429.

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SJT wrote on Nov 2, 2008 8:55 AM:

" "I went to church, and the pastor said not to vote for somebody who is clearly going against God's wishes on abortion and homosexuality," Jones said.

501c3 tax exemptions be damned. My pastor says the same thing to parishioners. By law, he's not permitted to publicly declare for whom to vote, else his parish will lose their tax exemption and likely have to close the church. I wonder if the IRS monitors the Hanford Sentinel, though I'm sure those pastors would say, "read the fine print", suggesting he did not name names.

Folks, this is how Iranians live, just a different religion.

First? "

O. G. wrote on Nov 2, 2008 9:59 AM:

" It's interesting to me that one can call themselves a Christian and not vote. I count my vote in this, my native country not just a right, not only a privilege, but my Christian duty. I know that there are those who would silence Christians and relegate them to the confines of their churches, but there is a mandate from Christ to be salt and light in this world, and I see my vote as a part of that.
Now secular revisionists would have you believe that this nation was never a Christian nation, citing a passage from the Treaty of Tripoli a segment that was added years later and not found in the original treaty.
Other than that there is plenty of evidence to support that this was a Christian nation. "

Alihandero wrote on Nov 2, 2008 6:38 PM:

" Well now, we have this supposed exact quote from the reporter of record:

"I went to church, and the pastor said not to vote for somebody who is clearly going against God's wishes on abortion and homosexuality," Jones said."

"SJT" said that is exactly illegal or against some IRS regulation.

Hey "SJT", PROVE IT!

Chapter and verse and exact citations, please, if you can find them.

Bet you can't be that precise in relation to the quote above. "

dose wrote on Nov 2, 2008 7:42 PM:

" Ali Handero:

I dont know if you have heard of a thing called the seperation of church and state. It is illegal for a pastor, priest, etc. to advocate for any politician during their official duties in their church. If you are not aware of these simple Constitutional concepts, then how are we supposed to take you seriously. "

BJMallory wrote on Nov 2, 2008 10:23 PM:

" "I went to church, and the pastor said not to vote for somebody who is clearly going against God's wishes on abortion and homosexuality," Jones said

Oh c'mon, give her a break. Thinking for oneself can be exhausting. It's just easier this way. "

BJMallory wrote on Nov 2, 2008 10:41 PM:

" Well, the IRS says this in their publication, Tax Guide for Churches and Religious Organizations, in the chapter entitled, "Jeopardizing Tax-Exempt Status:

All IRC section 501(c)(3) organizations, including churches and religious organizations, must abide by certain rules:

■ they must not devote a substantial part of their activities to attempting to influence legislation,
■ they must not participate in, or intervene in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office,

So the IRS says it's illegal. Who cares? If people would just think for themselves instead of doing something because "the pastor said", we wouldn't need to worry about it. I must admit, pastors have freedom of speech, too. God gave all of us a mind to think with, a heart to feel with and a soul to tell us what is right and wrong. I don't need any pastor telling me what to think. I might feel I need his or her guidance from time to time, but the ultimate decision will be mine and mine alone. "

jeff wrote on Nov 3, 2008 1:30 PM:

" Alihandero [sp], let me guess, you’re going to say that nothing was proven because BJMallory provided the data instead of SJT. How could you possibly not be aware of this law? Churches cannot endorse public elections of any kind. I know middle school children who understand this.

If Sandra Bega is voting for Prop 8 and Prop 4 she is a fairly poor Libertarian just as any Republican voting for these are bad Republicans. Both of these parties run on less Government intervention and more Civil Liberties. Both of these propositions are in direct contrast of that.

O.G., this is not a Christian nation. What evidence is there to show that it is? There is none. Remember it’s “Freedom of Religion” not Freedom for Religion. Trying to impose your Church beliefs into our laws is un-American. That’s how they run things over in Iran. "

Devils Advocate wrote on Nov 3, 2008 2:03 PM:

" "We, the people of the United States of America,..."

The government of the US is the people, we just ask representatives to handle it for us within certain limits. Therefore, we, all of us, are ultimately responsible for the what we do as a nation. I applaud people willing to vote their conscience, even understanding the extreme underdog status of third parties. Should you choose to hug trees, promote socialism, consider social freedom the highest virtue, or wish to follow the dictates of your religious leaders or traditions, that's great - thanks for being part of America. Let's just try to respect one another while we duke it out, and remember that the whole of America is greater than the sum of its parts. "

Alihandero wrote on Nov 3, 2008 8:31 PM:

" Apparently my last comment citing legal points was not printed for some reason so I will give you the short answer.

That pastor cannot be prosecuted by ANY criminal or civil law for saying that.

Do you people here believe that we have no Constitution at all? Does the IRS tax code take away American citizen’s rights via a series of complex tax collecting guidelines and regulations?

Of Freedom of Speech and Religion, the respected nonpartisan PEW RESEARCH CENTER says this:

“The fact that candidates may align themselves on one side or another of an issue does not restrict the ability of religious organizations to engage in discussions of that issue.”

“If a religious organization’s lobbying activities constitute more than an insubstantial part of its total activities, the organization’s section 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status may be revoked, which means that its income for the year would become subject to income tax.”

Source: http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=281#q5

Additionally, a church pastor can hold and discuss his personal, individual views, practices, or opinions and, in this case, he/she didn’t say WHO to vote for and the church didn’t “substantially intervene” in anyone’s political or legislative campaign. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 3, 2008 9:03 PM:

" To: "Do~Se" wrote on Nov 2, 2008 7:42 PM:
Don't worry I included your paste below. But first off read all of the blog. It was stated a name was not mentioned to vote for in that church. Therefore no violation took place, therefore tax exempt status stays in tact. You and "Sc~Ott" are not the only two who know how to play symantics with the English language, my friend.

" Ali Handero:

I dont know if you have heard of a thing called the seperation of church and state. It is illegal for a pastor, priest, etc. to advocate for any politician during their official duties in their church. If you are not aware of these simple Constitutional concepts, then how are we supposed to take you seriously. "

Put that in your bong and fire it up "Do~se"! Or is it a Crack Pipe? "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 3, 2008 9:23 PM:

" To: Jeff,

Freedom of religion is the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance.

How can you say that religion doesn't have a place in politics when it is clearly stated in the deffinition that it be private or public?

We have the right to peacefully assemble and publicly discuss whatever we wish to discuss in this country. It is not Nazi Germany, where those priveleges were not allowed.

So if we wish to communicate our political opinion based on our religous beliefs in private/public, it is the free will of the people to do so. Just like it is your right not to, so it washes out in the end does it not, Jeff?

So don't tell me to keep my religous beliefs out of my judgement. Because it is an instilled quality contained within my right to make judgements on elections and government and whatever else might be influenced by my thinking private/public.

Or are we at a place and time when now you wish to persecute our private thoughts as well. "

liberalguy wrote on Nov 4, 2008 4:28 AM:

" "I went to church, and the pastor said not to vote for somebody who is clearly going against God's wishes on abortion and homosexuality," Jones said. I wonder if the Pastor said to not vote for someone who is Pro-war. If I remember correctly Jesus was a pacifist and preached against all things violent. I guess as long as we are killing those who don't believe exactly what we do its ok. And voting for McCain because he reflects your Christian beliefs? This is a man who cheated on his ex with his current meal ticket, while is ex was revovering from a serious accident, Now that is what I call good Christian values "

dose wrote on Nov 4, 2008 1:51 PM:

" I did vote differently, I voted for the black guy instead of the rich old white guy. "

Alihandero wrote on Nov 4, 2008 8:24 PM:

" Hey, "dose" in Ohio just admitted that race DOES matter in this election.

Nice form, "dose," great opportunity to vote your atheistic conscience for your own personal savior.

Well, we now have proof of the old saw:

"As the ACORN falls (esp. in Ohio) so grows the tree!" "

Deb wrote on Nov 5, 2008 1:02 PM:

" Say, what, Alihandro? Ohio? Were you speaking of Ohio?

Ohio Results:
Obama 2,618,612 52%
McCain 2,395,130 47% "

jeff wrote on Nov 5, 2008 3:26 PM:

" Fred,
You’re confused about the constitution and what I said. I never said people cannot gather publicly to state their opinions. (Stop listening to the voices in your head). That’s the 1st Amendment which says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. “ I know you’ll need some help here but what this means is that no laws shall be passed in the name of any religion, you’re allowed to join or believe in any religious voodoo you like, the government will not censor the population or the press, the government will not stop people from protesting peacefully or from petitioning the government.

How can you say that religion does have a place in politics? Move to the Middle East Fred, you’ll love it there. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 8, 2008 8:34 AM:

" Is this finally a truthful comment from the land of Ohio we see below: Has dose finally outed himself and his bigotry now slides down the sides of his mouth and dribbles onto his belly.

dose wrote on Nov 4, 2008 1:51 PM:

" I did vote differently, I voted for the black guy instead of the rich old white guy. " "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Nov 8, 2008 8:37 AM:

" jeff wrote on Nov 5, 2008 3:26 PM:

Very simple the pledge of allegiance in our schools, "In God" We Trust on our money, prayer in the "White House, Senate & Congress" the governing bodies of our United States. Even other religions refer to their God as God. You will have as much success getting all that out of government as you just had on making same sex marriage law in California, Arizona and Florida.
But Good Luck! NOT! "

dose wrote on Nov 12, 2008 12:39 PM:

" Since the Sentinel in its infinite wisom has decided not to post my original comment I will try reposting it.

Fred and Ali Handero, both of you couldn't have gotten my comment about voting for a black candidate more wrong. The reason why I voted for Obama had nothing to do with the color of his skin, it did have everything to do with the fact that he was a better candidate. The only reason why I said I was voting for a black guy was in reference to this articles title. Since every president we have ever had has been a rich old white guy I figure voting for a black man meant I was voting to a different drummer. Just because the only thing the two of you consider is race doesn't mean the rest of us do. In fact I wouldn't care if Obama was plaid and from Mars I still would have voted for him. He simply was more qualified than mccain. "




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