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Tea Party on tap for Independence Day

Grass-roots enthusiasm for the TEA -- an acronym for "Taxed Enough Already" -- party that randomly spread like wildfire this April across the state amid the economic and budget crises is now an organized regional effort here in the Central Valley.

This past April 15, hundreds of people rallied in events in communities from Merced all the way down to Hanford to Bakersfield, waving American flags and protesting taxes, government overspending and lack of representation by politicians.

Some of the like minds are now banding together under the same anti-tax and anti-spending slogans to appeal to the entire Valley, and they want to do it by putting on one giant Tea Party in Tulare this Fourth of July.

Dubbed "Freedom Rally Tea Party," the event is scheduled to take place at the International Agri-Center, 4500 S. Laspina St., Tulare.

The event runs from 9 a.m.-2 p.m.

The "Tea Party" movement that resulted in numerous local protests against the "broken" government on National Tax Day in April has since taken on a life of its own. The July 4 event is proof of that, says Eric Hughes, spokesman for the Central Valley Tea Party, a new organization that is putting on the event.

"On April 15, when they had their tax rallies, the one in Bakersfield expected 500 people and they had about 3,000 show up. Fresno was expecting 1,000, and 8,000 showed up," Hughes said. "Everybody wanted to get involved and help build it up. Then we merged into one umbrella group, which encompasses from Bakersfield to Merced. It continues to grow ."

The group decided to pick a patriotic weekend to hold another event in Tulare, hoping it's centrally located enough that it encourages people from across the Valley to attend.

With the response they are getting so far, organizers anticipate about 10,000 people will show up.

Hughes said water rights activists supporting the release of water to the west side of the Valley will join the rally to advance their cause. They would bring 10,000-15,000 of their own people to energize the rally, Hughes said.

The Tea Parties representing various communities, including one in Kings County, will stick to their own agenda, Hughes said.

"Education and awareness will be our priority," Hughes said. "Our focus is strictly on fiscal responsibility by the government. Because of that we have Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Green Party, men and women, Hispanics and African-Americans. We have a huge cross-section of people involved in this."

Hughes added that through the event, the group does hope to get politicians in Washington and Sacramento to realize that there is a large population that is unhappy with the way they are representing their state and the country.

Eventually, the group hopes to identify candidates in each district in the Valley that members can get behind and help them run for office so "they can get some of these things fixed," Hughes said.

The reporter can be reached at 583-2429.

(June 12, 2009)

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The following are comments from the readers. In no way do they represent the views of the Hanford Sentinel

SJT wrote on Jun 12, 2009 11:09 PM:

" Anti-Obama rally. Mostly white folk. Surprised there's no gun show also. Fireworks and cross-burning after sunset. These people are sick. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 13, 2009 4:11 PM:

" Is that an ethnic jab, I witness you throw SJT, you usually are above that sort of thing. The Tax Enough Already people must be getting under your skin.
This actually sounds like an event I might attend, meet you there I will be wearing the ball cap or a really redneck cowboy hat. "

SuziQ wrote on Jun 14, 2009 7:57 AM:

" Bush spent too much money and Obama is spending too much money! I am very upset about how much money is being spent and I'm going to the Tea Party for that reason. It's for Americans who care. I wish the Democrats had come up with an idea like this when Bush Was spending so much. "

SJT wrote on Jun 14, 2009 12:25 PM:

" ..and I'll wear my Obama t-shirt, Fred.

Once the folks at these Hate-fests start holding the Republican party responsible for their out-of-control spending in the boisterous & vociferous manner that they hold the Obama administration, then I'll shut up; but all I've seen so far is a gaggle of bitter Republicans who cannot accept the fact that their ideas have been largely rejected by voters twice in the last two years.

These Hate-fests are NOT bipartisan; one only has to read the protest signs to figure this out. Most folks from outside the right wing culture is totally turned-off by these cult-like demonstrations. Anyone who were to take the microphone and speak to the truths of the Bush administrations and the rubber-stamp Republicans, would be booed off the stage the second those words begin to penetrate their hermetically-sealed lobe that holds only Fox news agitprop. Witness folks' heads exploding if they hear someone saying the Bush Republicans in Congress out-spent any other Congresses in American history.

Demonstrate that Republican policy contributed significantly to the collapse of our economy, then I'd likely consider tolerating the cause. "

SJT wrote on Jun 14, 2009 12:28 PM:

" SuziQ, Democrats DID come up with an idea when Bush was spending so much - we voted. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 14, 2009 3:00 PM:

" To: SJT wrote on Jun 14, 2009 12:25 PM:

Well say what you will SJT but 16% of you already are wishing there were more Republicans in the United States Congress to balance out the unyielding power of Obama. Secondly, the Republican Senate is already planning for fillabusters to slow Obama's progress in the Senate.

I today sent a check to the Republican National Convention to support the elections of 2010, as did millions of Republicans across this great nation. The Democrats headed by their leader can shut down all the Republican owned dealerships it wants, and the contributions will still come in to support the Republican Party. We lost an election, we didn't give up, we didn't put our heads down in shame. If you want to check your parties record over the past century in elections, it isn't so good either. Furthermore, in 2010 this country is gonna see the biggest change in seats in the Congress, it has ever witnessed in history, plan on it. Then in 2012, history will be made again, when the first of a first goes down to defeat, by a landslide vote. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 14, 2009 3:05 PM:

" To: SJT wrote on Jun 14, 2009 12:25 PM:

But until that time, I have three and a half years of Obamaide to celebrate deminishing the value of to this great nation. You worried about two wars when Obama took office, what will he do with four wars on his plate? That could and can be a real possiblity SJT. He has coddled North Korea and Iran into a false sense of security and now they are raising their ugly heads in force. Do you think the military commanders in those areas are gonna sit on their hands and let their troops be attacked by a nuclear weapons attack? All I can say is we better ready our submarines into theatre and get ready for a war to end all wars. Because when this turkey shoot starts, there is no such thing as a neutral country. Then you have India, Pakistan, Russia and the Lord knows who else taking potshots at each other. Not to mention Britian, Isreal, France and a few other secret card holders. If we have nuclear capability, you can bet our allies do to. "

Alihandero wrote on Jun 14, 2009 3:07 PM:

" What, do you all not remember 'power to the people' cheer, libs?

Apparently "SJT" allows for only LIBERAL community activism (like Obama's claim to fame and ACORN) and doesn't want opponents to exercise their constitutional rights.

Teaparties are a fact, Jack.

It's AMERICA!

Get used to them. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 14, 2009 3:13 PM:

" SJT wrote on Jun 14, 2009 12:25 PM:

Try as you may, you'll never convince me, that ACORN and the Ohio Ol' Boy Network, isn't what got your President elected. They have already been caught in several states, buying and committing other fraud in voter registrations. All paid for with our Government Grant Money. Then people have to ask me why I don't like Grant Money? Because it goes for the wrong things such as how many teets does a pig have? "

SuziQ wrote on Jun 15, 2009 6:12 AM:

" Well, SJT, you certainly FAILED, didn't you? Any idea's now, or are happy with the Obama spending? With enough common sense, and some intelligence, you would figure out that if you and the other Democrats would show up to a Tea Party it would only help fight against the policiticans. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 15, 2009 11:40 AM:

" TO SJT; I THINK YOU NEED TO READ AND COMPREHEND THIS STATEMENT, AS IT WAS PART OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUION OF THESE UNITED STATES:

"The right of a citizen to peacefully 1) parade and gather or 2) demonstrate support or opposition of public policy or 3) express one's views is guaranteed by the freedom of speech and the right to peaceably assemble".

THEY DIDN'T WRITE THIS JUST FOR DEMOCRATS IT IS FOR ALL CITIZENS REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ALIKE, SJT. "

Paul wrote on Jun 15, 2009 3:47 PM:

" You can hold ALL the tea parties you want and it still won't change the fact that the majority of Americans think that the whole bunch of you are
"Von Brunns" in the making.

And yes that includes you suzyq and wdf with or without the red neck hat. "

Dandre wrote on Jun 15, 2009 5:06 PM:

" If you are a Democrat or Independent and are going to this ‘Tea Party’,
Follow this link and use the chart as a banner and see what kind of response you get. If you are going to protest our economy and the debt of our Country. This chart pretty much tells the story.
Thanks to ‘X111’ for providing the link

http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html "

Dandre wrote on Jun 15, 2009 5:14 PM:

" Hey, fred.. did you 'cut and paste' your predictions from the last election about the 'coming landslide'?
We are all supposed to forget Bush, he's history.
Well, the 'scars' of the 45% of my retirement accounts that were 'redistributed' under Bush I will never forget, I am sure the 'wounds' suffered by our Country should definitely not be forgotten 'lest they be repeated'. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 15, 2009 6:40 PM:

" To: Alihandero wrote on Jun 14, 2009 3:07 PM

"Taxed Enough Already" What else is there to say? "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 15, 2009 6:41 PM:

" To: Alihandero wrote on Jun 14, 2009 3:07 PM

If anyone knows how they could contact John Voight, he's got a lot to say, on the subject of what's going on in this country right now. He is dead on too. "

Dandre wrote on Jun 15, 2009 7:52 PM:

" jon who?
you guys need another 'cartoon character' to make your point?
What happen to 'cave girl' palin, or joe the plunger, hey, there is always marion morrison: war hero!
Have you saan the 'faux' Thomas Paine at the Ark tea baggin'
I guess nobody told him Paine was for 'NO God in gov't and a 'socialist'...OOOOPS! "

Alan G wrote on Jun 16, 2009 10:18 AM:

" I'm not quite understanding how the leap is made between protesting about taxes & spending and being a racist?

I have no party affiliation, but I believe in holding on to as much of my money as possible and not a dime more in taxes than it takes to run the government efficiently.

Please explain logically. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 16, 2009 11:00 AM:

" To: Dandre wrote on Jun 15, 2009 5:14 PM

"What happen to 'cave girl' palin, or joe the plunger",

Evidently a lot more fame and prominance than dandre' the former Rock Star!!!!! "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Jun 16, 2009 12:18 PM:

" to dandre, I went to the official treasury.gov site and here are some figures for you:

22 JAN 2001, when Bush took office, national debt 5,728,195,796,181.57 (so where is this surplus you claim Clinton left him with)

22 JAN 2007, when the Republicans lost control of the congress, national debt:
8,676,668,422,505,86

16 JAN 2009, what Bush left for Obama (and the Democrats controlled the purse strings for the past 2 years), national debt:
10,628,881,485,510.23

So Bush in 6 years and 2 wars raised the debt about 500 Billion a year, while the Dems during Bush's last 2 years managed to up the debt 1 Trillion each year.

So who is really going to care what you have on your made up signs, Use real facts.

Also if you dare check out this website:
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/26742/
This is an article by a former democrat/former republican, I guess somebody in the same mold as me, upset with Taxaction without Representation, and keep your vile comments to yourself. The article is about a Tea Party, not your sexually perverted implications. "

SC2001 wrote on Jun 16, 2009 12:35 PM:

" I do remember quite a bit of spending during the Bush years...but I don't remember money flowing in such great amounts so recklessly in a 5 month period. Many people that are a part of the "entitlement" generation will support Obama's actions because it means more $ and benefits for them with no work required. I am far from rich but my question is why punish the rich with more taxes? It is the rich who own businesses that employ folks like me...make it hard for them and they will have to lay folks like me off in order to stay in business. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 16, 2009 2:39 PM:

" To: SC2001 wrote on Jun 16, 2009 12:35 PM

Not to mention the wreckless actions of firing CEO's with more experience than the one's he is replacing them with for these multi-billion dollar companies. Since when is it the Executive Branch of Governments job to oversee privately held, functioning companies. We all saw how quickly the Banking Industry, repaid those loans to get out of the clutches of Barack Obama and his administration of Czar's.

Watch how quickly Fiat gets rid of the Government from Chrysler, they have up to a 63% option on the corporation. They will exercise that option and gain control of the company as soon as they can afford to do it. Probably with financing made available from their government provided by us in Financial Aide to their country. More americans paying the bill to buyout american companies.

Think about it folks, we are selling off our corporations while Barack Obama travels abroad selling out our country. I too am sick of his bowing and criticisim of this great nation. If he feels so badly about our past. He shouldn't be orchestrating our future. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 16, 2009 2:44 PM:

" To: Alan G wrote on Jun 16, 2009 10:18 AM:

For your racisim quetion, you might want to ask:
SJT wrote on Jun 12, 2009 11:09 PM:

" Anti-Obama rally. Mostly white folk. Surprised there's no gun show also. Fireworks and cross-burning after sunset. These people are sick. "


As for paying too many taxes, I think all who will appear at the meeting on July 4th will be like minded folk, regardless of skin color, beliefs or religous commitment. Perhaps you should come home stay with Mom and attend? "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 16, 2009 2:50 PM:

" I find it tremendously ironic, that most buzzing of the bee hive from the far left, is starting to sound very reminiscent of Bud Abbott and Lou Costello's routine, Who's on First? Not a whole lot of sense and all sorts of confusion.

Did they not hear their President speak yesterday morning as he begged for National Healthcare?

A black hole this country doesn't even want to invest and receive equal medical care to England and Canada, or worse.

We are rushing to turn this country into an equal partner with most of the Third World nation's, struggling to do better.

Indonesia is now claiming, it has its' first Indonesian born President of the United States. So what does that say to the birthplace question? Does that not throw some kindling on the firepit of doubt for most folks? Like Alan Autry would say; "If that don't bother you, your woods too green to burn". "

Paul wrote on Jun 16, 2009 5:02 PM:

" NotHomeGrown wrote on Jun 16, 2009 12:18 PM:

" to dandre, I went to the official treasury.gov site and here are some figures for you:

22 JAN 2001, when Bush took office, national debt 5,728,195,796,181.57 (so where is this surplus you claim Clinton left him with)

So who is really going to care what you have on your made up signs, Use real facts.

The Associated Press ran an article on Sunday March 1, 2009 written by Charles Babington, who cited as a source from The U.S. Office of Management and Budget (follow me nhg) that had a SURPLUS that began in at the end of 97' and ended in 2001.

Gee... let's see. Billy was in office in 97' and he ended in 2001.

bush took over in 2001 and guess what? THAT SURPLUS that Billy left him at the start of '01 went SOUTH into a deficit at the end of '01.

Use only REAL FACTS and CITE where I can find your source. And PLEASE don't give me a conservative site. "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Jun 17, 2009 2:09 PM:

" let us try this again, once again thank you moderator for not posting my first one for whatever reason or most likely lack thereof;

to Paul,

Try this site on for size for facts:

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Jun 17, 2009 2:13 PM:

" to Paul, hopefully my previous 32 word post will make it through the moderator, can't tell you where I get my official government stats from if the moderator refuses to post my response, as my orginal post didn't make it. So first I try the short and sweet, and now try to add more words.

All you have to do is read the instructions and do something simple like put in numbers. So please tell me any time between Clinton's Administration and W's where it shows any surplus? I know how to post facts and I know how to read numbers, something that seems to lack from some people here. Like your "facts" from a reporter. Show the government facts, not some reported that on one blog shows that his articles are dubious. "

KC Resident wrote on Jun 17, 2009 8:38 PM:

" Stop this crazy bantering about right wing/left wing history. We are talking about TODAY...NOW friends. The Tea Parties are about people being fed up! Thank God taxpaying citizens are speaking out instead of sitting by and letting more of the same insanity take place. I went to the Tea Party because I agree that political representatives at all levels from all parties need to be held accountable for their actions to US! Whether you like Obama or not is really a secondary issue. Do any of us really know who runs this country? WE THE PEOPLE have been asleep for two or three decades thinking that the government is going to ensure our future and freedom. Don't be that ignorant. Start educating yourselves! We need everyone who cares about America to be at those Tea Parties and Water Rallies. Some very threatening things are happening right before our eyes. "

SJT wrote on Jun 17, 2009 9:44 PM:

" http://www.hanfordsentinel.com/shared-content/gallery/?galleryid=11&gallery_page=0&album_page=0&albumid=174&mediaid=2017

Applying a fair amount of logic, look a the photos in the above link and then ask: Would a black American feel comfortable taking the stage and telling this crowd about Bush and his Republicans, decrying their $9 Trillion debt, and tax policies that favored the wealthy?

(this is my 2nd try at transmitting this post in as many days. Hoping this becomes viewable before too long - don't want to disappoint Fred. Speaking of Fred.. His (dozens of) posts seem to always get published the same day. Is Fred a Sentinel employee?) "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 17, 2009 10:40 PM:

" To: KC Resident wrote on Jun 17, 2009 8:38 PM:

I totally agree with you both sides of the realm are responsible for our position. But the obamaaide believers think that somehow Democrats never make a mistake and if they do the last thing they should do is own up to it.

I am smart enough and have lived long enough to know that George W. didn't do everything right, I think he would be the first, if given the chance to admit that. But not one man, nor two men, nor three men run this country. It wasn't designed that way, that is why we have a Federal Senate, Congress and also State Government. It's called checks and balances. The problems is the checks have gotten mixed up with the balances and no one is watching the fox, sneak in the back door of the chicken coup.

If we don't begin an active foreign policy, with real response times to the worlds problems, we are all gonna go down the tubes and then look at each other and say how did this happen? "

Jarred wrote on Jun 18, 2009 1:15 AM:

" Paul and NotHomeGrown: Both of you are right.

What NotHomeGrown is referring to when he says that Clinton left with a surplus in fact a _budget_ surplus. That's a pretty good thing, since it shows that the country is moving in the right direction. We would be applauding Arnold if he got California out of the budget crisis that we're in, since states aren't really allowed to carry a debt, even though we will.

Paul, you're also right too. The total national debt is going to keep on rising every year. It's something that I doubt we will address, ever. And to be honest, we owe a helluva lot less than other countries. We owe around $42,000 per person, if the debt was spread between every person evenly (which it wouldn't be anyway since that's not how our tax system works.) Most European countries in fact have a debt per capita MUCH higher than ours. Is our national debt the highest? Yes, with the UK trailing by about 2 trillion dollars. In fact, the entire world owes 54 trillion dollars to various countries. "

Jarred wrote on Jun 18, 2009 1:31 AM:

" And honestly, the whole TEA party idea is just bull. We all know that it costs less to do minor repairs than it does to just wait it out and do major repairs later. That applies to everything: house repairs, car repairs, even our own health (take antibiotics now or have your leg amputated later). It makes sense that Obama needs to spend government money so that the average citizen can continue to make (and spend) money. And if the whole debt thing is of such huge concern, what happened during the last 8 years? Why wasn't it a huge concern then? Even so, the vast majority of people (95%) in the US are actually getting tax cuts. You'll be paying less to the government than you did under Bush, all the while making a pretty valiant attempt to balance the budget. This is why people think that the Tea parties are nothing more than just a political ploy to round up the Republican base. Did you ever see CEOs of major corporations out there protesting? They certainly should be the ones protesting, since they'll be paying more. "

Alihandero wrote on Jun 18, 2009 5:32 AM:

" Extremely well said, KC Resident! "

Alan G wrote on Jun 18, 2009 12:13 PM:

" Okay SJT, I checked out the photos you mentioned and saw nothing that suggested racism or cross burning. Not a single sign that wasn't complaining about something other than taxes and policy.

What I did see were a high percentage of seniors(who happen to be white) featured in some of the close-up photos. The wide shots were harder to make anyone's ethnicity out beyond two to three people deep in the foreground. I'd just as soon punch a racist as look at one.

If I were to speak in front of a crowd at a tea party, I'd complain equally about both parties and their outrageous spending. I'd complain about gerrymandered districts where most candidates are guaranteed re-election and therefore feel rather safe in their voting and spending.

I wish there was a gun show, I'd probably do a little shopping. If there was a petition to support gay marriage, I'd sign it. It is possible to pick and choose your issues and not tow a party line.

Lower taxes and smaller government aren't such bad things. "

Dandre wrote on Jun 18, 2009 12:48 PM:

" Yea, kcres.... Frank luntz would be proud, you can re-brand with the best of them.... "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 18, 2009 2:03 PM:

" To: KC Resident wrote on Jun 17, 2009 8:38 PM:

You want to talk about frightening, read the latest published or visual media coming out of North Korea. Our own Gates says, "well I've shipped the best land based missile defense system to Hawaii to protect the american people". Part of the very missile defense program not a month ago he said we didn't need any longer. He cut funding for new development of because in his infinate wisdon all attacks would be of the terrorist nature from here on out. This only goes to show how wrong someone in government can be. I am not picking on a Democrat here who didn't work for a Republican Bush. This man the day the campaign ended and the vote was announced took off his proud Secretary of Defense suit and put on some sort of Sheep's clothing, most of us don't even recognize in our government. For those who don't recognize it, this is a very real threat of a missile launch on or before July 4th our countries anniversary. This isn't some message needing decoding or thought. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 18, 2009 2:09 PM:

" To: KC Resident wrote on Jun 17, 2009 8:38 PM:

Gates is not saying we will, but that we have the capability to shoot this missile out of the sky. I don't think we should let the missile get to the Hawaiian region to be taken out. We have ships at sea quite capable of taking this thing out the minute it leaves North Korean air space. The fact that it is aimed over Japan and at Hawaii, is more than enough justification to take it out. It is called self defense, take it out over the sea and let it fall into the ocean off the coast of North Korea have ships standing by to recover it and have our scientists examine it. Then North Korea's real intention will be discovered. I have said all along when North Korea and Iran are doing all this missile testing. You don't deliver nuclear power to the homes of your citizens, via a missile launch. The nuclear research and missile practice is nothing more than machines of war awaiting deployment ,against us and our allies. Does history repeat itself? "

Alihandero wrote on Jun 18, 2009 4:22 PM:

" Wait a minute, all you so-called economic experts out there.

If there was a stated BUDGET SURPLUS - all that means is that SOMEONE didn't pay down the national debt as best as they could have . . .

OR

...Taxes were so high in the first place that there wasn't enough time for the liberals to spend (or give away) it all.


I'm just sayin' . . .
(credit phrase to Alan G. again)


Now let me get back to balancing my checkbook again! "

SJT wrote on Jun 18, 2009 5:52 PM:

" If there was a single sign, would you, AG, dismiss it as just one bad apple? Are blatant, declarative posters & billboards required to reveal how tea party folks feel about our first black President?

Racism isn't the only thing going on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkOwsIIIe5I

Note, this is Peecola, not Hanford, but the results would without-a-doubt be the same.

I recognize teabagging (I type trying to hold back laughter) as what it appears to be - disgruntled losers, by & large. There may be a couple Indies here and there who have yet to hear about the role that Bush Republicans played in setting up the economic disaster our current president inherited. Jarred says it very well in this thread, which is rarely mentioned in these "protests". "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 18, 2009 6:40 PM:

" To: Alihandero wrote on Jun 18, 2009 4:22 PM:

On paper Clinton did seem to be aiming at a surplus, of course he didn't factor in all expenses in government. He had for years disarmed our armed forces. Then came along 9/11 where Bush didn't have a fighting machine capable of the task at hand and had to immediately start rebuilding the armed forces to counter attack the terrorism and it's obvious locations. That was not a cheap cost that could be withdrawn from the White House lawn clipping fees. I would estimate that Bill Clinton's Surplus, was probably used in the first half dozen cruise missiles fired into Baghdad. But it is also humorous to hear people talking about Bush spending when the projected current spending of Obama will reach a new all time record of 1.8 Trillion Dollars. Like Bill Clinton's surplus, that is projected spending that doesn't include healthcare reform.
So pack up your cares and move to Switzerland if you want to avoid these tax increases, folks, that is what the Scholar did during the Bush era. "

SuziQ wrote on Jun 18, 2009 8:48 PM:

" Paul, you and your fellow Libs resemble Von Brunn more than we do. Bill O Reilly was on his "Hate List". Years ago we called you people Commies, but terms change during the years. "

Pete wrote on Jun 19, 2009 8:48 AM:

" Isn't that the truth Suzi, we always heard about the Americans who where actually Communists. I remember in the late 50's and early 60's when my step-father wouldn't listen to Harry Belafonte music because it was said he was a Commie. Now he's call a Lib. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Jun 19, 2009 11:26 AM:

" To: SJT wrote on Jun 17, 2009 9:44 PM:

Speaking of Fred.. His (dozens of) posts seem to always get published the same day. Is Fred a Sentinel employee?) "


If I were, their circulation would triple SJT. Rest assured, but no I am not an employee. "

Dandre wrote on Jun 25, 2009 12:41 AM:

" Last week Glenn Beck scoffed at the notion that he had been promoting the notion of state secession, somehow overlooking the fact that he had in fact been promoting the notion of state secession.
So yesterday, to further demonstrate his skepticism, he invited on his Fox News program a fellow named Dan Miller, who runs the Texas Nationalist Movement. As you can see, he provided two full segments of the show to an interview that most kindly could be called “credulous,” and less kindly would make a crude reference to teabagging.
And indeed the Teabaggers’ Parties was an important topic, because Beck raised it himself at the end:
Beck: You actually believe the Tea Parties are, um, are the “gateway drug” to secession. Is that true?
Miller: Well, I think that’s definitely the case for a lot of folks. Because, you know, the Tea Parties have been about venting frustration and anger with what’s going on in Washington, D.C. And what we’re seeing here is a lot of people are looking for solutions, and the solution for Texas is Texas, independence.
Beck: Unbelievable. "

Dandre wrote on Jun 25, 2009 12:43 AM:

" Well, it's nice of them to admit that the Tea Parties in fact have been a prime recruiting ground for all kinds of extremist right-wing belief systems, most notably those arising from the "Patriot" movement of the 1990s.
Because there were some noteworthy aspects to this interview that went unmentioned on the air:
-- The Texas secession movement in fact has long been the most significant arm of the far-right "Patriot movement" in that state since the 1990s, when it was responsible for various armed standoffs with law-enforcement authorities and a range of domestic-terrorist acts "

Dandre wrote on Jun 26, 2009 10:38 AM:

" Go ahead and you 'dittoheads' have at it, 'fox' and the groups mentioned above will be using YOUR face to 'recruit'. If you have no problem with that.....mega-dittos
The people that are smart enough to realize who is behind the curtain will celebrate our independence from 'that' King George. Happy 4th of July!! "




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