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Another View: Biden's Russia blunder

There's the real world and Bizarro World, there's matter and antimatter, and then there's Sarah Palin and Joe Biden. Both the would-be vice president and the actual one have a history of making foolish off-the-cuff remarks, and each has a knack for unnecessarily infuriating the opposition -- they just do it from opposite sides of the political spectrum. And if Palin scores political points by stretching the truth, Biden loses headway by being honest.

A case in point: his appallingly ill-advised statements over the weekend about Russia.

"The reality is, the Russians are where they are," Biden said, in comments published Saturday. "They have a shrinking population base, they have a withering economy, they have a banking sector and structure that is not likely to be able to withstand the next 15 years, they're in a situation where the world is changing before them and they're clinging to something in the past that is not sustainable."

Biden was just calling it as he sees it on Russia, but to upend the contents of his brainpan in front of a Wall Street Journal reporter, on the heels of a diplomatic initiative by the Obama administration that sent both President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to Moscow bearing "reset buttons" and promises to open a new era of mutual respect and improved relations, was immensely counterproductive. The Kremlin sent a bristling response questioning whether the president or the vice president was shaping U.S. foreign policy goals, and Clinton tried to smooth things over by calling Russia a "great power" in an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press." But the damage was done.

As one Russian newspaper reported: "Joe Biden unexpectedly returned to the rhetoric of the previous Bush administration."

Obama surely knew when he chose Biden as his running mate that he was getting a loose cannon. So he can't possibly be surprised when his vice president shoots the occasional 16-pound ball through his policy agenda, such as the time in April when Biden advised people to avoid flying or riding subways so as not to contract swine flu, even as the rest of the administration was trying to reassure jittery Americans about the much-hyped flu bug and head off a transportation meltdown. And who can forget Obama's withering glance when Biden made sport of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. for mucking up the presidential oath at precisely the same moment that Obama was pleading for bipartisanship and mutual respect in Washington?

Yet Obama's principal rationale for choosing Biden was that the former senator's foreign policy expertise would make up for his own lack of diplomatic experience. This can't be what the president had in mind.

This editorial appeared in the Los Angeles Times.

(July 29, 2009)

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The following are comments from the readers. In no way do they represent the views of the Hanford Sentinel

Alihandero wrote on Jul 29, 2009 2:51 PM:

" Gov Palin was correct and did not lie:

You CAN see Russia from Alaska!

Liberal CNN proved it too; read this lest ye doubt:

(http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/30/you-can-see-russia-from-here/) "

Bobb wrote on Jul 29, 2009 8:42 PM:

" My cousin was stationed at Adak, Alaska for several years. He told me they were only about 40 miles from Russia. I don't know if he was just kidding but he said if you had the stamina you could walk there when the Bearing Sea was frozen in the winter. Alaska is one of the "57" states if you recall. "

dose wrote on Aug 1, 2009 8:37 PM:

" I noticed that nowhere in this article does it say anything about Palin seeing Russia from her house, it's actually about Biden going to Russia. Besides Palin said so many dumb things why restrict it to that comment. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Aug 1, 2009 10:51 PM:

" To: dose

They did leave out the classic statements from when Biden, Clinton were on the campaign trail talking about what a loser Obama was and if elected he would be tested within the first six months of office.

They were right North Korea tested him and he got a failing grade.

Iran tests him every time their president makes a speach. Obama fails there as well.

You keep talking of Darfur and our unwillingness to do anything! What of Iran's death in its streets after a rigged election and people spoke out.

Obama did nothing about that either, so what does he do all day bone up healthcare and CEO Management skills?

Or just sit around waiting for what Joe Biden might say next about, oh let's say the Queen of Engliand? He hasn't insulted her yet, but I have to admit he is running out of people to make nice with in foreign policy matters. "

B. wrote on Aug 2, 2009 6:42 AM:

" dose......you say;
"Besides Palin said so many dumb things why restrict it to that comment"

Why not comment on all the "DUMB THINGS" your boy Biden has said in the past 6 months? Everytime he opens his mouth, his foot is in it. Read the story again............

Obama surely knew when he chose Biden as his running mate that he was getting a loose cannon. So he can't possibly be surprised when his vice president shoots the occasional 16-pound ball through his policy agenda, such as the time in April when Biden advised people to avoid flying or riding subways so as not to contract swine flu, even as the rest of the administration was trying to reassure jittery Americans about the much-hyped flu bug and head off a transportation meltdown. And who can forget Obama's withering glance when Biden made sport of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. for mucking up the presidential oath at precisely the same moment that Obama was pleading for bipartisanship and mutual respect in Washington?

O` Joe........he sure says a lot of dumb things. Typical Liberal. "

Alihandero wrote on Aug 2, 2009 2:32 PM:

" Since "dose" is such a lefty supporter and is against Palin all the time, one can make the point that "dose' exhibits anti-female and pro-good old boy politics just by reading his comments alone.

So much for liberal progressive thinking! "

GJT wrote on Aug 3, 2009 11:12 PM:

" Its ok Dose, I agree with you.. "

jeff wrote on Aug 4, 2009 2:36 PM:

" Yes Palin is a moron and so is Biden. What is there to discuss?

Alex, yes you can see a small part of Russia from Alaska, how does that give someone foreign policy experience? I can see a huge mountain range from where I live does that make me a logger?

Fred, how did Obama fail any "Tests" N. Korea or Iran have given him? Maybe you think he has failed but from where I stand and for most Conservatives I know personally he has done nothing wrong in these regards. Regurgitating Hannity's talking points is not a sign of intelligence.

You two would look much smarter if you would just admit something is bad when it is bad. Acting arrogantly and lying about facts does not help you. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Aug 6, 2009 7:46 PM:

" To: jeff wrote on Aug 4, 2009 2:36 PM:

How in hades would you know what a conservative view point is? You lean so far to the left you remind me of one of those little bouncy punch clown balls full of sand in the bottom that couldn't stand up straight if it had to, much less lean to the right side.


Fred, how did Obama fail any "Tests" N. Korea or Iran have given him? Maybe you think he has failed but from where I stand and for most Conservatives I know personally he has done nothing wrong in these regards. Regurgitating Hannity's talking points is not a sign of intelligence. "

manuel wrote on Aug 7, 2009 7:30 PM:

" How many blunders did Dick Cheney commit, he even shot someone, he talks from the side of his mouth, just like a gangster "

ToldYouSo wrote on Aug 8, 2009 3:06 PM:

" Obama won the presidential election and is our President, but to pretend that him, Biden, or Palin were anywhere qualified to be in office is a joke. They don't come much dumber than Biden though, except for maybe Gore. I think everyone knew Obama would be weak internationally and he is. We knew he would appoint a biased and leftist Supreme Court justice and he is. We knew he would screw up health care in America and he is. We knew he would spend like a high school kid with mommy's check book and he is..... not to mention he is supporting abortion, trying to destroy the 2nd Amendment, calling police officers doing their jobs stupid, and lastly he was seen drinking on the job and still refused to apologize for calling the Gates issue incorrectly. Like I said months back, painful 4 years to get Republicans in for the following 8, assuming there is anything left of us after 4 years of Obama and Biden. "

manuel wrote on Aug 9, 2009 9:45 AM:

" Toldyouso You are just like the rest of the Republicans, all you can say is to put down Obama, you never mention the disaster Bush and Cheney left the nation in, was Cheney any better than Biden, I doubt it. take off your blinders, you will see the past also, Obama just walked in the door, Bush and Cheney where in the house for 8 years "

ToldYouSo wrote on Aug 9, 2009 6:05 PM:

" To Manuel, you are definitely correct that both political parties look at the exact same thing/people and view it totally opposite. I'm not even sure we can blame the media for this. Bush, like Obama, was picked on from day one and unfairly at that since you can't blame him because Florida had the hanging chad problem or because 911 attack happened right after he was elected but had been planned under Clinton and Gore for years. I tried to be neutral to Obama and give him a chance, but he immediately began promoting abortion, he is pushing against the 2nd Amendment, he is about to ruin health care as we know it, just ask any and I mean any doctor that you know, we all now own GM and Citi when I wouldn't have purchased their stock at any price, he will begin taxing us all or destroy more US companies under heavier taxes, my list goes on and on, but you will disagree with me on everything because you are not Republican. I guess we will need to agree to disagree. But on a lighter note Republicans did have Dan Quayle.... "

manuel wrote on Aug 10, 2009 12:45 PM:

" Toldyouso The Republicans are for the rich, which is great, if you are rich, but there are more poor people. thats why we vote Democrat it's the best of the two evils. the auto industry failed under Bush, not Obama, blame the right people, Obama is trying to keep people working, you are mad cause you are a Republican and hate to see Obama put the nation back on it's feet, like the rest of the Republicans you wish he would fail, like Bush did "

ToldYouSo wrote on Aug 10, 2009 7:19 PM:

" Don't get too carried away Manuel, about half the country is Republican and half is Democrat so I don't believe Republicans are only for the rich and neither should you. I'm not blaming Bush or Obama on the auto companies, but I can blame him for using our tax money to bail them out of bankruptcy. If GM was struggling it is because of their own bad business decisions. Clinton/Gore caused a recession that hit Bush, Bush turned the conomy around then at the end the housing mess caused another recession that hit Obama. I simply don't agree with taxing the middle and upper class and all corporations out of existence as a means of giving money to the lazy or incompetant. Socialism is not a good thing. If Dems hate and don't need Rebpulicans why do they love there tax money sooooo much. I don't like or need handouts from the government and I prefer to carry my own weight. Others that are too lazy to go to school or even go get a job feel entitled to free money just by electing Obama, now that is pathetic. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Aug 10, 2009 7:44 PM:

" One last comment to Manuel, since Republicans typically do care more about working, building wealth, and being self sufficient than Democrats they actually DO want to see Obama turn around the economy and stock markets so Republicans can make MORE money. What they don't like to see is Obama taking over hopeless problems like GM, Citi, and socialized heath care that only hurt our long term economic recovery. Similar to Bush's costly invasion of Iraq. The California budget crisis is simple, the Republicans and companies in CA have run out of money from carrying the infinite load of lazy people, criminals, and the stupid liberal agendas. No water to farmers means no Ag economy which means less state revenue from Ag and more welfare to laid off ag workers. We can directly thank Democratic liberal politicians for this mess, but that little minnow fish in the delta is probably very happy right?. Of course now we can't even afford a school bus for 5 year olds, so who do the Democrats really care about since they control CA. What about the laid off "Democrat" farm workers, why didn't Obama save their jobs? "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Aug 11, 2009 3:02 AM:

" To: jeff-ff wrote on Aug 4, 2009 2:36 PM:

Did you also have blinders on this weekend when Bill Clinton and Al Gore upstaged your favorite guy? Manuel is right he was televised drinking beer on the job, what example does that set for the youth of this country? What's next? Is he gonna let his dog come up and pee on his leg while outside with the girls? Anything for a photo op!

Remember the plane circling the Statue of Liberty in the air space over New York and what a fiasco it caused? Biden ticked off Russia so bad Obama and Clinton had to rush to apologize and the Russians still didn’t accept the apology.

They said; “Well guess the Bush Administration is still in charge in Washington”. Then you want to point to Dick Cheney for Stupid Vice President, tricks! Since Biden got elected, I keep waiting for that category to appear on the Letterman Show.

Then you want to pick on Cheney because he was a good shot, at least he hit an Attorney someone qualified to file a lawsuit. "

manuel wrote on Aug 11, 2009 8:34 PM:

" Whatchdog did you read the article on another bad republican like Bush, CARL ROVE, makes good reading, check it out "




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