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ACORN is a concern

Editor: This is an open letter to President Obama and Congress:

I am deeply disturbed by the events of the past few weeks and days. The enormous House health care bill in excess of 1,000 pages needs to be completely redone with bi-partisan participation. Listen to the will of the people! They are telling you as representatives we voted for, we don’t like the direction Congress is going with the health care reform.

The ACORN situation also concerns me. The government has entrusted this group with almost $10 million to be used for low income housing. After hearing and seeing the videos of what ACORN employees advising two young people posing as a prostitute and pimp/law student/future politician to do concerning tax evasion, importing young illegals for sex slaves, and supposedly giving them a low interest loan for a house, I want you to stop funding ACORN and commence a thorough investigation. Too much controversy surrounds this organization for anyone to think this is all an aberration. Check into all their past loans for signs of more corruption.

I am concerned about corruption in our government. Charlie Rangel needs to be investigated. I cannot imagine what would happen to me if I “forgot to report almost a million dollars of income.” Should our lawmakers not be held to the same account? And he is on the committee to write tax law.

Please do not send me a general response to this letter. If you cannot take the time to respond directly to my concerns do not count on me or anyone I know to fill out the blank box after your name on the next ballot.

Kathleen Silva

Hanford

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The following are comments from the readers. In no way do they represent the views of the Hanford Sentinel

RobertD wrote on Sep 17, 2009 1:03 PM:

" Those of you out there concerned about ACORN should check to see how your unions and professional organizations are spending your dues. For example, the National Education Association gave ACORN $190,000 in 2008 (the latest year that I could find record of). Everyone belonging to unions and such groups need to start asking questions of their leadership. "

Deb wrote on Sep 17, 2009 5:34 PM:

" So if the president doesn't take time to respond directly you won't vote for him. I'd pretty much say the letter writer probably didn't vote for him in the first place... big assumption on my part. But, ACORN has been taken care of. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Sep 19, 2009 11:00 PM:

" It's sad that ACORN was allowed to act almost above the law during Obama's push to be elected. Now that the truth is coming out I think it really requires some further investigation by our law makers and some better regulations to prevent groups like this one from unlawfully impacting elections. Like Obama's ties to terrorists and racist ministers, he seems to avoid any responsibility and is above answering to anything. "

Alihandero wrote on Sep 20, 2009 2:53 AM:

" Deb wrote on Sep 17, 2009 5:34 PM:
"But, ACORN has been taken care of."

Not at all Deb.

But I guess as a liberal you would WANT it to go away as it shows just how corrupt and unwholesome the liberal progressive socialist agenda really is.

What about all of the illegal voter registrations across the country that helped Obama get elected, Deb?

I bet you will look the other way for that too because it helped you guy win, right?

Where is your indignation, Deb? "

SuziQ wrote on Sep 20, 2009 9:47 AM:

" Deb is right, ACORN has been taken care of. Please don't mention them again, it's an embarrassment to obama. "

Deb wrote on Sep 20, 2009 3:22 PM:

" Well, Alihandero there's no more federal funding for ACORN - that's what you wanted right? Or more like, that's what the right wanted. But, it's not gone - only 40% (if I recall correctly - no Alihandero I'm not lying) of it's funding comes from Federal Funding.

Not sure where all the voter fraud went? Huh? Alihandero any voter fraud cases like everyone said? "

Devil's Advocate wrote on Sep 20, 2009 3:58 PM:

" I just read a list of several dozen organizations that are associated with ACORN - mostly as sub-organizations, others that share directorships, affiliated unions, etc.

It gonna take more than what Congress has done to actually make a dent in their government funding. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 21, 2009 1:37 PM:

" To: Deb wrote on Sep 20, 2009 3:22 PM:

I am concerned about how many politicians who get their pay check from the federal government (meaning the tax payers) who then contribute to such organizations as ACORN? I think an investigation beginning with the big guy at the White House needs to be studied and examined very thoroughly.

Kobe has Nike and Obama has ACORN, I see a trend here. "

SuziQ wrote on Sep 22, 2009 7:13 AM:

" Now the stupid Department of Justice is going to investigate ACORN. Don't they know obama served as an attorney for ACORN and this might educate more people about what obama was and is? All the voter fraud was done in the past and we shouldn't talk about it now, then got their guy elected! "

jeff wrote on Sep 22, 2009 8:53 AM:

" What is it with you people. Not one count of voter fraud ever occurred. Do you understand what voter fraud means? Mickey Mouse never voted, if he had then you would have voter fraud. It's the same with health care. No one is pushing for socialized health care. At best it's an option of socialized health insurance. Please try and understand and then use the language we have all agreed upon properly. "

disturbed wrote on Sep 22, 2009 9:05 AM:

" Why is it that a few rotten apples spoil the bunch? I do not support ACORN, but I think the ideal was right, it just has some shadey people that are working there. I am sure not all of them are bad. Of course, the people who went undercover had an agenda, who knows how long it took them to get the footage. I find it funny how everyone is so quick to blame Obama, yet Bush did so much worse, and he was never held accountable. Looking into voter fraud? Come on, why not look into the real reason Bush went to Iraq, to finish what his father started and particularly Cheney was on the board of one of the companies that would make the most from war with a hefty govt contract, but that is something different, right? FYI, an attorney does not have to agree with their clients to do their jobs, look at defense attorneys. "

deb wrote on Sep 22, 2009 12:04 PM:

" SuzieQ - you and many others would have people believe that Obama was deeply involved in ACORN as their attorney - this is the truth... "Obama used to be a lawyer for ACORN, yes, Obama ONCE took on a case for ACORN. But Obama was NEVER a staff attorney for ACORN. He DID NOT DO ONLGOING work for the organization. He handled ONE case along with two other attorneys. ACORN was one of several plaintiffs. And the U.S. Department of Justice sided with ACORN in the case."

Read all about it at politifact. "

manuel wrote on Sep 22, 2009 6:18 PM:

" SuziQ Like alihandero would say WOW another hateful person speaks out towards Obama, makes you think ex president Carter was right "

Deb wrote on Sep 22, 2009 6:31 PM:

" Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 21, 2009 1:37 PM:
" To: Deb wrote on Sep 20, 2009 3:22 PM:

I am concerned about how many politicians who get their pay check from the federal government (meaning the tax payers) who then contribute to such organizations as ACORN? I think an investigation beginning with the big guy at the White House needs to be studied and examined very thoroughly. "

So now you want to control how people spend their money?

Do you realize how that sounds? IF a democrat were to want to investigate how you spent your money you'd be might upset, but it's ok the other way around? "

SuziQ wrote on Sep 23, 2009 2:04 PM:

" Carter has never been RIGHT! You people keep defending ACORN, it's shows what you're made of. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Sep 23, 2009 6:23 PM:

" ACORN is full of bad people, just look who they hired as their attorney. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 23, 2009 6:40 PM:

" To: Deb wrote on Sep 22, 2009 6:31 PM:

I have news for you if you receive a state or government check and it is direct deposited to your account. The government has the right to track how much goes in how much goes out and in some cases can even take money back if it so chooses too. What planet have you been living on Deb?

When Obama gets through the government will have that information without a direct deposit being made to your account. Just read the questions Obama and ACORN put together for the census this next time?

Why does the government need to know how many guns you have you don't claim them as dependants?

Why does the government need to know how many voters reside at your address and their party afilliation?

I'm surprised they don't ask how many abortions have been performed on the family residing at this address?

You think I sound bad, wait until you are hit with all these questions, we have senators and congressman saying they will pay the fine rather than provide answers. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 23, 2009 6:41 PM:

" To: Deb wrote on Sep 22, 2009 6:31 PM:

You don't think the government already intrudes into your life and business too much? You must be a Demoncrat. "

Deb wrote on Sep 23, 2009 9:00 PM:

" WDF - you completely missed the point, of course. YOU are the one who is at issue with how federal employees spend their paychecks, not me.... You don't like the way they spend their money by donating to orgs such as acorn. And, while it might be a stretch of the imagination - if you had the power, you'd make it illegal. Ha! "

Deb wrote on Sep 23, 2009 9:01 PM:

" "Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 23, 2009 6:41 PM:
" To: Deb wrote on Sep 22, 2009 6:31 PM:

You don't think the government already intrudes into your life and business too much? You must be a Demoncrat. "

Did that make you feel better? Never hid the fact that I'm a liberal and have also stated the right is pushing me further and further left... even at my old age. "

the oracle wrote on Sep 23, 2009 9:19 PM:

" ACORN is a racketeering influenced corrupt organization (RICO) and should be investigated as same. Evidence shows that it is systemic "

Alihandero wrote on Sep 23, 2009 10:03 PM:

" Well now folks,

Those of you who are ACORN sympathizers (and you know who you are) probably know by now that the IRS (Internal Revenue Service) is severing it's approval/working agreement and all other ties with ACORN!

ACORN offered free tax advice to about 3 million low- and moderate-income tax filers this spring.

I wonder if any "advice" given to those poor and moderate-income people might be incorrect or inappropriate or illegally given to certain people in that 3 million figure?

Wonder how many tax dollars were lost to pay for things like the decreasing the NATIONAL DEBT? "

SuziQ wrote on Sep 24, 2009 9:53 AM:

" Oh great, now the Treasury Department is starting an investigation of ACORN. I just hope they don't point out all the voter fraud and obama's close ties to ACORN. That would really make fools out of some people. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 24, 2009 2:49 PM:

" To: Deb wrote on Sep 22, 2009 6:31 PM:

I wasn't suggesting monitering every penny Obama spends, just the money going to subversive groups in our country.

Since the man doesn't believe this is a Christian nation and that we don't worship God as much as we did at one time. Some of us worshp more because Obama is in office than any other reason to the tune of millions of Christians.

Why should I support a President who doesn't support his own government and country? "

manuel wrote on Sep 24, 2009 4:19 PM:

" If you don't think the Government already intrudes into your life and business too much? YOU must be a Republican "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 24, 2009 8:22 PM:

" To: Deb wrote on Sep 23, 2009 9:01 PM

If I had a choice of voting for Biden, Obama or McCarthy the latter would win hands down. At least his biased opinions were out in the open and he laid his integrity on the line to support his issues.

When is Obama gonna realize he is suppose to write legislation and Congress is suppose to pass or deny it? This is a first for a President to allow the Congress to write and approve itself.

You don't see the possibility of a problem arrising from that act alone? If the Demoncrats can muster enough votes it goes sailing through the halls with Obama ready to rubber stamp anything they want to do.

When in the history of this country did our Representatives approve billions and billions of dollars be spent on a bill that was never even read by them? "

Scott Tucker wrote on Sep 25, 2009 2:06 AM:

" "Why should I support a President who doesn't support his own government and country?"

Why should we listen to a guy that spouts misinformation and provides no proof to back up his wild and fanatical assertions? "

ToldYouSo wrote on Sep 25, 2009 6:09 PM:

" Well, why should I support a President who can't even show us his birth certificate? "

Paul wrote on Sep 25, 2009 11:23 PM:

" Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 24, 2009 8:22 PM:

"If I had a choice of voting for Biden, Obama or McCarthy the latter would win hands down. At least his biased opinions were out in the open and he laid his integrity on the line to support his issues."

Some have proven more than once where they stand on, "those biased opinions."

We know, we get it... "

Paul wrote on Sep 25, 2009 11:34 PM:

" SuziQ wrote on Sep 24, 2009 9:53 AM:

" Oh great, now the Treasury Department is starting an investigation of ACORN. I just hope they don't point out all the voter fraud and obama's close ties to ACORN. That would really make fools out of some people. "

I would hope that you would want the opposite so you could stand and say "see I told you."

Maybe you are afraid it will make a fool out of republicans.

the oracle wrote on Sep 23, 2009 9:19 PM:

" ACORN is a racketeering influenced corrupt organization (RICO) and should be investigated as same. Evidence shows that it is systemic "

By any chance you weren't part of the Hawk jury. The way some carried on about him, he was tried and convicted before he went on trial.

Which is what you have done with Acorn after all according to you...

"Evidence shows that it is systemic. "

With some around here, "Why do we even need courts?" "

Paul wrote on Sep 25, 2009 11:58 PM:

" ToldYouSo wrote on Sep 25, 2009 6:09 PM:

" Well, why should I support a President who can't even show us his birth certificate? "

If Ronald Reagan himself gave it to you, you won't believe it. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Sep 26, 2009 4:47 PM:

" Acutally Paul, if it came from Reagan I'd believe it. I can't think of anything that Reagan really lied about. He definitely had his critics but he came from the old school when people said what they meant and meant what they said. Pretty much the opposite of Obama. "

SJT wrote on Sep 27, 2009 8:46 AM:

" Headlines from Sept. 23:

ACORN Sues the Makers Of Pimp And Prostitute Video

BALTIMORE — Community activist group ACORN is suing the makers of a hidden-camera video that showed employees of its Baltimore office giving tax advice to a man posing as a pimp and a woman posing as a prostitute.

The liberal group contends that the audio portion of the video was obtained illegally because Maryland requires two-party consent to create sound recordings.

The two employees seen in the video were fired after it was posted online. The lawsuit says the employees, Tonja Thompson and Shera Williams, suffered "extreme emotional distress."

The multimillion-dollar lawsuit seeks damages from James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles, who played the pimp and prostitute in the videos, and from conservative columnist Andrew Breitbart, who posted the videos on his Web site. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 27, 2009 9:00 AM:

" To: Scott Tucker wrote on Sep 25, 2009 2:06 AM:
Yeah especially one from another galaxy, governed by Catons who thinks he is a scholar?

" "Why should I support a President who doesn't support his own government and country?"

Why should we listen to a guy that spouts misinformation and provides no proof to back up his wild and fanatical assertions? " "

SJT wrote on Sep 27, 2009 9:01 AM:

" Lies, misinformation, disinformation runs rampant over the ACORN falsities being spewed by not only the right wing press, but some mainstream as well. So far, outside of liberal blogs, only Rachel on MSNBC is outlining the BS being spewed about ACORN. She exposes who is behind the witch hunt and corrects the gross misrepresentations behind their allegations. She shows us, too, that Congress, while quick to judge ACORN, should also go after other beneficiaries of American tax dollars who're legitimately exposed for gross fraud while accepting our tax dollars - yet they're being given the benefit of the doubt, unlike ACORN.

RIght wingers are wolves, hunting down their prey. They're so soured by their loss in the last two elections, that they'll try their best to bring down the non-partisan organization that helps the poor (those who tend to vote Democratic), using every Rovian tactic in the book. We know they're quite capable of lies and deceit, and they'll stop at nothing.

I'm considering giving less to my parish and donating the difference to ACORN. At least I'm sure it goes to helping the poor that way. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 27, 2009 9:06 AM:

" ACORN may not be the hard nut to crack, Obama and all his followers thought it would be. Just a few more recorded statements from its' employees and we'll have more convictions and dig deeper into the truth and those behind these schemes and out and out lies they are telling the average consumer and voters they come in contact with on a daily business at the Governments expense.

How ironic will the facts be in this case once they are all placed on the table. Go after the right people with supeonas and worry them enough and they will talk, Folks! "

SJT wrote on Sep 27, 2009 9:16 AM:

" From MediaMatters.org:

From October 6 through October 15, CNN ran at least 54 segments mentioning allegations that [ACORN] submitted allegedly false or duplicate voter registration applications this year in a number of states, according to a Media Matters for America search* of the Nexis database. But only one of those segments mentioned both of the following two relevant points: 1) that the statutes of most of those states require third parties registering prospective voters to submit all registration forms they receive; and 2) that actual instances of illegal votes being cast as a result of registration fraud are extremely rare. Indeed, in an October 10 press release, ACORN noted that "in almost every state we are required to turn in ALL completed applications, even the ones we know to be problematic." And in a 2007 report titled "The Truth About Voter Fraud," New York University's Brennan Center for Justice stated, "[W]e are aware of no recent substantiated case in which registration fraud has resulted in fraudulent votes being cast." Of the 54 CNN segments addressing the allegations against ACORN, two mentioned only the former of those two points, while one mentioned just the latter.

..Liberal media, my butt. "

manuel wrote on Sep 27, 2009 7:35 PM:

" Told You SO Reagen did not lie, he just forgot, the I don't remember, who is Ollie North? never heard of him, the first signs of Alzheimers "

ToldYouSo wrote on Sep 27, 2009 10:34 PM:

" You are correct for once, Reagan didn't intentionally tell any lies and Clinton and Obama intentionally lie all the time. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Sep 27, 2009 10:36 PM:

" Anyone supporting ACORN should remeber that old saying about a fool and their money.... "

Scott Tucker wrote on Sep 28, 2009 2:20 AM:

" Fred,

What are "Catons", and what do they govern?

Who is the one from another galaxy making stuff up?

Such wonderfully fantastical notions for one who is supposedly a self-proclaimed "watchdog" of reality.

__________________

"Catons" aside, it looks like the witchhunt against ACORN may have negative effects on the entire military-industrial complex. We wouldn't want companies involved in illegal activities using tax-dollars, now do we, Fred? Look it up on that thingy that is made up of a "series of tubes".

And Fred, "if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material."

Yes, it is no secret that the right's grasp on reality is tenuous at best. Where do they come up with this stuff: "tubes" and "Catons"? "

Deb wrote on Sep 28, 2009 10:19 AM:

" Manuel - I'd even forgot about that one. Good memory! I was living in Northern Ca at the time and every TV in every restaurant and retail establishment was tuned to the hearings. Where is he now? Oh yea... that's right.... FOX - War Stories "

manuel wrote on Sep 28, 2009 10:56 AM:

" Toldyouso take off your blinders, Reagan lied just like your hero Bush, read my LIPS "

Alihandero wrote on Sep 28, 2009 4:00 PM:

" Hey Scott,

You have been living in Switzerland for so long that you don't know the local KC lingo.

What is a "caton?"

caton

def. - Jocker, Bopper, and Pancakes.
use - "Caton is a big time bopper jocker."

Source: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=caton "

Alihandero wrote on Sep 28, 2009 4:50 PM:

" Wow!

SJT wrote on Sep 27, 2009 9:16 AM:
"...Liberal media, my butt. "

But SJT does give two lib examples and they are pretty, pretty, pretty good, namely:

Media Matters for America (MediaMatters.org)
and
New York University's Brennan Center for Justice.

Two things though:

1.) the Brennan Center study was in 2007 and could not possibly have included the 2008 Presidential vote widespread tampering charges including ACORN and the Obama bias issue, and

2.) Justice Brennan would have defended the American tax protesters and even the "You lie" public comment indicated by this written judgement he authored:

"…debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open and it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials."

— New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 270, 1964

Yeah, as you say it's your "butt" indeed, SJT! "

SJT wrote on Sep 28, 2009 4:52 PM:

" " ...a fool and their money.... "

Palin supporters? "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 28, 2009 5:11 PM:

" To: Scott Tucker, to coin a phrase will the mystery guest please sign in? Since, not many of us know or appreciate the foreign opinion, and we have no business in the United Nations.

Why is it my scholarly friend your liberal segment of society can at it's choosing have the Attorney General of the United States threaten former members of another administration with subpoenas, prosecution and God knows what? But the mere mention of supeonas to the wonderful and unsuccessful group of ACORN nuts we have in this society?

Why Scott, Why do you not want the truth as the liberals tell it under subpoena, brought to court and brought to the lady justice we are all suppose to believe in? While on that subject, I was called to jury duty and showed up two weeks ago, can you tell us the last time you served on jury duty or even showed up for roll call at the Superior Court, County of Kings, City of Hanford, Ca.? Enquiring minds want to know! Oh and for that matter any service to the community of Hanford at large? "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 28, 2009 5:13 PM:

" To: Scott Tucker, I can't believe you don't get called for Jury Duty and haven't for the two years I've known you. I get called at least once every six months with a summons?

Is anybody out there from the Juror's Office listening? Can you explain why a Jury Summons isn't issued to Scott Tucker? "

ToldYouSo wrote on Sep 28, 2009 6:34 PM:

" Well SJT, when compared to Obama, Palin was over qualified to be President and not afraid to show her birth certificate. "

Scott Tucker wrote on Sep 29, 2009 7:57 AM:

" Alihandero,

Thanks for the definition. Now that I know that I am governed by bopper jockers, I will have to rethink my politics accordingly. "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Sep 29, 2009 8:10 AM:

" to WDF, can't talk for Scot, but when I was overseas, whenever I got a Jury summons, I would send it back saying that if they would pay my airfare I would be more than willing to serve. Never did receive any airfare. In Scot's case they most likely would excuse him as undue hardship. So I don't hold him not having to serve against him. I am more frustrated by all of those that do show up that try to wiggle out by saying they don't understand English. "

Scott Tucker wrote on Sep 29, 2009 8:23 AM:

" Fred,

Excellent segues, Fred. Next time, why don't you try to concentrate and stay on topic.

But, since you have predictably decided to change the subject...

Attorney General Holder is simply doing his job, you know, enforcing the law of the US, something that the previous AG, Alberto “Don't Get Caught, Ya Big Dummies!”Gonzales, failed to do.

"But the mere mention of supeonas to the wonderful and unsuccessful group of ACORN nuts we have in this society?"
This is not even a question, much less a coherent sentence, so I will not even bother to answer it.

"Why do you not want the truth as the liberals tell it under subpoena, brought to court and brought to the lady justice we are all suppose to believe in?"
Good question. I am sure Carl Rove or Harriet Miers can give you an answer.

Let's see, the last time I sat on a jury in Kings County was in May 2000. I still get periodic jury-duty-summons, but, being that I'm a victim of geography, I usually have an acceptable excuse for not participating. I bet that bit of information infuriates you, doesn't it? "

Scott Tucker wrote on Sep 29, 2009 8:33 AM:

" "Why do you not want the truth as the liberals tell it under subpoena"
Fred, are you inferring that conservatives do not tell the truth under subpoena, because that is what it sounds like you are trying to say.

"I get called at least once every six months with a summons?"
Why the uncertainty, Fred? Do you not know how often your are summoned to serve on a jury, or are you just making stuff up again? Should we doubt the veracity of all of your statement-questions? "

SJT wrote on Sep 29, 2009 3:29 PM:

" (2nd attempt to post) ACORN has been around since the 70's, but it seems that on every even-year this past decade, we hear about them and their dastardly deeds - advancing voter engagement among low and moderate-income families.

During one of those even-year elections, 2006, the New Mexico U.S. Att'y, David Iglesias, as well as eight other U.S Attorneys, was fired for not going after alleged voter fraud cases. His answer was that he could not prosecute because he had insufficient evidence to indict. The other eight had similar stories to tell after they were fired - that they would not cooperate with the Bush White House in this regard. Indeed, Congress is still investigating events surrounding the sudden firings, as is it illegal to politicize the U.S. DOJ. As one might guess, Karl Rove led this effort (and Harriet Miers said as much under oath).

Iglesias is the Navy JAG Officer who became the inspiration for the movie A Few Good Med with Tom Cruise playing him. He's been the most outspoken among the fired attorney's, largely defending ACORN as being unfairly hunted down by GOP operatives. "

manuel wrote on Sep 29, 2009 3:35 PM:

" ToldYouSO Palin was over qualified to be Governor, so she put her tail between her legs and quit, and you wanted her to be president? "

Deb wrote on Sep 29, 2009 4:01 PM:

" WD - I had jury duty in late spring and it was specifically announced that names are excluded from the jury pool for the next 12 months.

So looks like you're being unduly targeted. Or maybe it's fraud - or maybe a mistake on the jury commissioners part.

I'd be asking for an investigation if I were you. And interestingly enough, at my age it's the very first time I've ever been called for jury duty in CA. Once in Oregon while attending college.

And yes, I was a chosen juror - did my three days. Watched all those jury dodgers - the judge promised them a nice long 3 month civil trial... Maybe you were one of those and that's why you're getting recalled? "

Deb wrote on Sep 29, 2009 4:04 PM:

" SJT - hadn't heard or read about that. It doesn't surprise me in the least. Thanks for sharing. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Sep 29, 2009 5:50 PM:

" Manuel, Palin exactly like Obama was never qualifed to be President. I didn't vote for her to be President but I think you voted for Obama to be President so who made the real mistake here? "

manuel wrote on Sep 30, 2009 9:45 AM:

" ToldYouSO You did, the Republicans LOST or are you like Reagen, can't remember "

SJT wrote on Sep 30, 2009 8:39 PM:

" You're welcome, Deb. Here's more on it:

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/330/david-iglesias.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/28/david-iglesias-joins-madd_n_302433.html

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20091012/acornblackwater_video

Funny thing is that Iglesias is a Republican, though I'm sure his party would disagree, and suggest that he's not a "true" American.

CNN, the networks and, of course the Republican Nat'l Committee Channel (Fox) won't touch it. I'm sure it goes against the party's grain, not to mention their purpose on going after ACORN in the first place - keep minorities from voting. "

Alihandero wrote on Oct 1, 2009 4:57 AM:

" manuel wrote on Sep 29, 2009 3:35 PM:
" ToldYouSO Palin was over qualified to be Governor, so she put her tail between her legs and quit, and you wanted her to be president? "

My guess manuel is that you personally don't follow the traditional American value of
'putting your family's needs first.' "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Oct 1, 2009 9:12 AM:

" to manuel, how can you say that those who didn't vote for Obama are the ones that made the mistake.

I don't have any problem knowing who won the Presidential election, and I acknowledge President Obama as our commander in chief. But I have items that I do not agree with him about, just like there were things that Bush did that I didn't agree with. So exactly when did I become a racist, during any of the terms of any president that I didn't agree with, or only with Obama since he happens to be 50% black? "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Oct 1, 2009 2:57 PM:

" To: manuel wrote on Sep 30, 2009 9:45 AM:

For the first time I must agree with you Manuel, Govenor, President Ronald Reagen forgot more about politics than you will ever learn and how to run this country and make it functional.

He got the wall in Berlin torn down by his alter ego Gorbachev and changed Russia like it had never been changed before. He also was instrumental in nocking Russia out of its number two slot as a World Power and succeeding to China which has become an economical giant in the world. Made in Taiwan has made China famous right along with Wally World and Target and many other large corporations in the United States, not to mention McDonald's, Burger King and all the rest.

Ronald was a healer that Obama claims to be but will never match up to. "

manuel wrote on Oct 1, 2009 3:40 PM:

" lihandero I do, that's why I voted for Obama, he is trying to get this country back on it's feet after 8 years of Bush/Cheney who I am sure you voted for,Bush started a needles war with Irag over oil, that has caused thousands of american lives and you have the nerve to put down Obama, it's ok to be a hawk, as long as you sit on the side lines "

SJT wrote on Oct 1, 2009 5:55 PM:

" You're welcome Deb. Lotsa hits on google for david+iglesias+acorn. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Oct 1, 2009 7:17 PM:

" Manuel, my last post got blocked or something, but I didn't vote for Palin to be President rather she was running for VP because she, like Obama, is not qualified to be President. I also didn't really like her being picked as VP either because, like Obama, she simply wasn't experienced enough. However, when facing Obama and Biden, I had to vote Republican no matter who they picked for VP. I was hoping they would pick Rice, but no such luck. A wild card pick would have been Hillary, but that would have been too much drama for all of us. "

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