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Our View: Only crazies surf the wave of hatred

Earlier in September, James von Brunn, the 89-year-old bigot charged with killing a black security guard at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, appeared for a hearing in a Washington courtroom.

Von Brunn, who faces charges including first-degree murder, hate crimes and gun violations, "appeared frail and sat quietly in a wheelchair," according to news reports.

The hearing presented evidence that he was on a "suicide mission," driven to "send a message to the Jewish community" that the Holocaust is a hoax.

Not surprisingly, the judge ordered a mental competency exam.

In the hours after the Holocaust museum shooting, there were multiple brazen assertions that American Jews were in profound danger and that the shooting was only the latest evidence of the lurking threats that ought to rouse Jews from their mistaken slumber.

That day, the Simon Wiesenthal Center issued a news release warning that "the cancer of hatred, bigotry and anti-Semitism is alive and well in America."

The Anti-Defamation League echoed the sentiment, saying that Von Brunn's act was "not an isolated incident but ... part of a 'wave of hate' targeting Jews and others." The ADL has since warned in a national newsletter of "violent plots, conspiracies and attacks by extremists" that are "a painful reminder that the anti-Semites and racists are still out there and more prone to act out on their beliefs. The danger is ever-present, and we must remain vigilant."

The Holocaust museum shooting was a tragedy. But to assert that it proves there is a "cancer" or "wave" of hate engulfing American Jews in 2009 is absurd. Such warnings run counter to virtually every poll, study and analysis of Americans' attitudes regarding different races, ethnicities and religions over the last 20 years.

For example, a 2006 analysis by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life of interreligious understanding in America found that "certain historical religious divisions and tensions have largely been put aside. Catholics and Jews, for example, once the objects of widespread and often institutionalized discrimination, are now viewed favorably by a sizable majority of Americans. ... These findings strongly suggest that the United States has the capacity to overcome historical divisions and prejudices."

The ADL's own flawed Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents recorded a greater than 44 percent decline in acts of anti-Semitic vandalism, harassment and assaults nationwide over the last four years.

Even anecdotally, the warnings are nonsense -- just talk to the Jewish people you know and inquire as to how many instances of bigotry, stereotyping or discrimination they have encountered in recent years.

Jews were once victims of bigotry in hiring, public accommodations, housing, university admissions, social clubs and country clubs, but those forms of real-world discrimination have virtually disappeared. To suggest otherwise is to make a mockery of the transformational change in American attitudes that these groups and others have brought about over the decades.

Having spent 27 years as a Jewish civil rights leader helping to effect those changes in California, I can attest to those battles being hard fought but significant. But, thankfully, we are past them now.

Sure, there are bigots and racists out there -- young and old. If there is a lesson to be gleaned from the June 10 shooting, it is that, no matter how accepting and tolerant a nation of 350 million people becomes, there always will be crazies who aren't with the program. There always will be angry people, sociopaths and psychopaths who are disconnected from the real world and capable of bizarre and criminal acts. We should be vigilant and monitor them.

But the sociopathic few are no measure of where we are as a society in terms of intergroup relations, although it is an unfortunate reality with which we must deal.

The danger of the knee-jerk "sky is falling" reactions of the Wiesenthal Center and the ADL is that they alarm an awful lot of folks, who are then afraid of the world around them. And when groups make such specious assertions, they undermine the credibility they need to be effective. If there were ever to be a new wave of hatred, of real "cancers" and "waves" of bigotry, they would be less likely to be believed.

The little shepherd boy learned his lesson about crying wolf; when will these groups?

Lehrer is president of Community Advocates Inc. (cai-la.org), a human relations organization based in Los Angeles that is chaired by former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan.

(Sept. 18, 2009)

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snoop dawg wrote on Sep 18, 2009 2:09 PM:

" all one has to do is google hate groups i.e. white supremacy and thousands of hits are at your fingertips especially since we inaugurated a black president. One of the newest and largest hate groups to emerge from under their rock is the Republican Party who have shown their true colors since Obama was elected. At first glance they seem to be just sore losers, but almost a year after the election they're still whining. And where is that coward BUSH? Crept back under his rock counting his money... "

Amanda R wrote on Sep 18, 2009 7:41 PM:

" Are all hate groups comprised of white supremacists? To suggest such a thing is ridiculous. Hate comes in all forms, and all is unnecessary. Also, to refer to the Republican Party as a "hate group" is uncalled for. They don't completely agree with every Democratic decision, but that is why they are not Democrats. It does not mean they "hate" them. As far as America has come, it disappoints me to see how many people cry foul over the slightest remark, opinion, or decision that is not in agreement with their own.
I am not saying what this man did was right, but not all white people are hateful, bigoted, and crazy. "

Deb wrote on Sep 20, 2009 12:05 AM:

" Amanda - I tend to agree with you, absolutes have no place in the argument - it's not "all" but some. I have to say, since the election they (the hate groups) are out in full force.

It's as if they received permission somewhere along the line to spew their hate. It's certainly alive and well here in the valley. I've encountered it from people I'd never have suspected to be so racially bigoted and it's not just black, but Hispanic and Jewish as well.

Over my lifetime, at some point it became politically incorrect to be a bigot. And, I certainly mistook that for a higher level of acceptance and understanding, but now it's "ok" again, or at least that's the sense I get from direct interaction with people.

I'm very disappointed in people as a result. We've taken a huge step backwards in many ways. "

manuel wrote on Sep 21, 2009 9:40 AM:

" Ded I also agree with what you say, every blog by a Republican spews hate towards Mr Obama, there is a lot of discrimination here in Hanford, read the blogs if you are not white you are an alien. Snoop Dawg you are right "

Angie wrote on Sep 21, 2009 2:36 PM:

" You're right Deb. People know what to say when they are around other people or in the public eye. It's the stuff that's said behind closed doors, in the comfort of your own home that's poison. There is ALOT of racism today but people sure know how to hide it well. "

Amanda R wrote on Sep 21, 2009 2:45 PM:

" Manuel, how are you agreeing with Deb? I am a (mostly) white Republican, and I do NOT spew HATE towards anyone, regardless of race, ethnicity, citizenship status, sex, or political affiliations. You obviously have missed my blogs. Well, they don't really deal with politics because some Republicans have better things to do than talk about other people all day. Seems like you and Snoop Dawg are being hateful, like those you're condemning. "

snoop dawg wrote on Sep 21, 2009 3:39 PM:

" thanks Manuel. There is a lot of hate in Hanford and Kings County in general. How many non-whites do you see in top positions in county or local govt jobs? Chris Jordan doesn't count because he was elected. Racism and discrimination comes in many forms. It can be individual or institutional, de facto or de jure. Regardless, it is abundant in Kings County. Thanks again my friend "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 21, 2009 5:33 PM:

" To: Manuel, Snoop Dawg, et al

"Chris Jordan doesn't count because he was elected."

How dare you, do you know how hard Chris Jordan had to work to get to the position he holds today, and as a Captain on the Hanford Police Department. Seldom do you find me sticking up for him, but in this case I will because I believe the man has earned the right to be counted. How absurd and naive, disconnected and immature can you be? "

ToldYouSo wrote on Sep 21, 2009 6:34 PM:

" What a joke, Manuel and Snoop openly hate Bush and we had 8 years of rabid hate by Democrats towards Bush. Why should I support someone even worse than Bush, just because he is half black and gets a political pass for all his mistakes. Color doesn't matter so let's stop using that as a crutch for Obama. "

Paul wrote on Sep 21, 2009 9:32 PM:

" At the grass roots march that was held in Washington by those "We White Americans" proved to me that racism is alive and well in America.

Every picture and sign that was held up had a white person behind it.

But there are some that when they are asked in public will say "not me."

Those that marched on 9/12, in public or not, removed all doubt that if they met me in a dark alley...

Sad thing is that I wouldn't have to go to Washington. There are many dark alleys here in town. "

Alihandero wrote on Sep 21, 2009 11:38 PM:

" Wow!

Someone said "Chris Jordan doesn't count because he was elected."

Of course he counts.

Not because of his race, but because of his personal performance and work record going from a longtime small city police officer straight into the elevated position of a county-wide elected official.

He is a very, very nice man; I will be the first to say it truthfully. He says things people want to hear. He is an adequate politician.

But consider job performance and his ability to
solve the problems of the office based upon his experience, his education, and his ability to learn what it takes to be a county sheriff.

He won an election over candidates with much more education and department-specific experience.

He is to be judged on that performance, nothing more or nothing less.

Prejudice works in many ways, not just related to the color of one's skin. "

Angie wrote on Sep 22, 2009 10:29 AM:

" I 'm pretty sure if Chris Jordan could openly speak about the realities as a black man trying to get ahead in a mostly white police department he would tell you about the racism he encountered and still does encounter. "

Bobb wrote on Sep 22, 2009 1:59 PM:

" Paul; you state that every sign was carried by a white and it was a WHITE protest. Maybe you should look at some alternative news sources. I saw many black, Hispanic, Asian, and about every other race in the pictures I saw on various internet web sites. To say a person is a racist because he/she does not agree with the message the messenger is carrying is crazy. Yes, some are racist and in every race you have racists but don't get into painting with such a broad brush that all who do not agree on certain ideas are racist. That, to me, makes the messenger the racist. The race card is played way too freely today. "

formerhanfordguy wrote on Sep 22, 2009 3:20 PM:

" I grew up in Hanford in the 70's and 80's... it was a very segregated town, the blacks and the Mexicans lived south of the 198 freeway, the whites lived in North Hanford...recently went back, nothing really has changed.. the east side has become a new Mexican ghetto. Racism still runs deep in Hanford! "

Bobb wrote on Sep 23, 2009 2:13 PM:

" formerhanfordguy; I think you are confusing financial accomplishment and wealth with racism. A friend pointed out to me the home of a very successful Mexican restaurant owner in Hanford and it was in North Hanford and a very beautiful home. He is Hispanic. There are several homes in North Hanford owned by successful minority business persons. They earned it and it is there right to spend it for a nice home. Yes, the numbers of successful minority persons is much less than whites bu;t don't begrudge someone who has worked hard to achieve a successful lifestyle. This sounds more like envy to me. No, I do not live in the north but I do not begrudge those who do minority or otherwise. "

pschultz wrote on Sep 23, 2009 5:20 PM:

" bigotry comes in many forms not just the words that we speak but the actions that we take!!! lets all take a deep breath & treat others the same way you wish to be treated (it works!!!) UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL! "

snoop dawg wrote on Sep 24, 2009 1:34 PM:

" the reason Jordan doesn't count is because he was elected by the people and not selected by those in the position to do so. If so, Jordan would have been made Chief of Police while at Hanford Police Dept. The powers that be (Hanford City Council) had to be forced to recognize Dr. King's Birthday, though it had been a National Holiday for over 20 yrs. I know, I worked very hard to get signatures for our ballot measure. Local unions had offered to trade it for an existing holiday in their contracts but were repeatedly were refused. According to union rep, the city council was afraid if they gave them the King holiday, next thing you know they'll be wanting Ceasar Chavez day too. You folks have Historical Amnesia...how convenient for you. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 24, 2009 2:54 PM:

" To: Bobb wrote on Sep 22, 2009 1:59 PM:

I totally agree with you Bobb everytime the opposition feels they are losing a battle they deal the race card from the bottom of the deck. As if to say I have no legitimate argument left, so here, this is what I am saying instead. How infantile and moronic to revert to such childish methods of trying to win an argument.

With Paul if you don't support Obama then you are prejudice! We both know that is poppycock, just because we don't fall to our knees and bow at the waist doesn't mean we hate the man, we just dislike his so called character and ideas! "

manuel wrote on Sep 25, 2009 12:39 PM:

" Watchdog You sound just like your leader Rush Limbaugh, remember when you point your finger at someone there are 3 pointing back at you "

baristamclane wrote on Sep 25, 2009 4:38 PM:

" When I met my in-laws for the second time, I mentioned in passing that I was half Mexican-American. One of the in-laws, gasped and said, "But, you're WHITE!" (referring to my translucent complexion, and assuming that anyone of Hispanic descent has naturally dark skin, I suppose). After that day, I went from being the adored "new" member of the family, to being a "Worthless, lazy, mooching, troublemaker".

The ridiculous thing, is that my husband has relatives that are Mexican-American. It wasn't my ancestry that bothered them, it was most likely that I violated every stereotype they associated with Mexican-Americans (mainly, that I had paler skin than my in-laws, and because I speak what could pass as fluent English).

There may not be as many out there, but the bigots still exist. They aren't so much crazy as they are ignorant and uneducated. "

SJT wrote on Sep 25, 2009 4:38 PM:

" ...there always will be crazies who aren't with the program. There always will be angry people, sociopaths and psychopaths who are disconnected from the real world ..."

The bigotry and racism is evident in the signs & posters we see at the teabagger hate-fests (tea parties). If Republicans would decry those signs and enforce some rules of decency, civility and dignity, then maybe the reigning perpeptions of Republican bigotry would subside; they haven't yet, and show no signs of doing so.

Be critical of our president; if one disagrees w/ his policy, then by all means, speak out and state your case (and be intellectually honest about it - not pulling grandma's plug, etc.) - and leave the hate at home. "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 25, 2009 7:51 PM:

" manuel wrote on Sep 25, 2009 12:39 PM:

" Watchdog You sound just like your leader Rush Limbaugh, remember when you point your finger at someone there are 3 pointing back at you "


Yeah hunh even when I point that favorite finger at you, there are still 3 pointing in my direction, so does that make my statement more valuable some how? "

Watchdog Fred wrote on Sep 25, 2009 7:52 PM:

" manuel wrote on Sep 25, 2009 12:39 PM:

" Watchdog You sound just like your leader Rush Limbaugh, remember when you point your finger at someone there are 3 pointing back at you "


By the way thank you very much for the compliment as long as you are not comparing me with Arnold or the Attorney General Jerry Brown. "

Paul wrote on Sep 25, 2009 10:33 PM:

" Here’s Catharine Richert of Politifact:

“It was an impressive crowd,” Piringer said. Yet the photo showed the crowd sprawling far beyond that to the Washington Monument, which is bordered by 15th and and 17th Streets. There’s another big problem with the photograph: it doesn’t include the National Museum of the American Indian, a building located at the corner of Fourth St. and Independence Ave. that opened on Sept. 14, 2004… That means the picture was taken before the museum opened exactly five years ago. So clearly the photo doesn’t show the “tea party” crowd from the Sept. 12 protest."

Bobb wrote on Sep 22, 2009 1:59 PM:

" Paul; you state that every sign was carried by a white and it was a WHITE protest. Maybe you should look at some alternative news sources. I saw many black, Hispanic, Asian, and about every other race in the pictures I saw on various internet web sites.

Oh, I guess fox and the other alternative news sources "forgot" to mention that to you.

Just like beck forgot what university tallied the #'s for him. "

Paul wrote on Sep 25, 2009 11:17 PM:

" So to me bobb, all those black, Hispanic, Asian, and about every other race in the pictures you saw on various internet web sites are most likely FAKE also.

Maybe those fake pictures are from the same university that counted the march for beck.

I don't believe in "alternative news sources" on various internet web sites that are run by freedom works and the like.

I believe in those that can/do provide "FACTS" along with what they print and not those that cite universities who's name "slips" them at the moment.

EVERYBODY should know that you can't believe EVERYTHING that is on the internet.

Well I guess almost everybody... "

Bobb wrote on Sep 26, 2009 1:32 PM:

" Paul; Your racial hatred and envy of those who have become successful and climbed the social ladder will make you bitter for the rest of your life. Live and let live and strive to be as successful as possible. Bemeaning those who accomplish success will only make you more miserable. Jealousy is an never ending agony which will consume you. Start climbing the ladder and quit blaming others or the government for you failures and you too shall succeed. Success is not just financial but having the satisfaction of knowing you have accomplished something in this world. "

Bobb wrote on Sep 26, 2009 1:46 PM:

" Paul; By the way Paul, I do not listen to Fox and very seldom watch TV. The exceptions are Discovery, the NASA channel, How It's Made and a few similar shows. I have listened to Limbaugh but cannot take him very long as he is an entertainer for the most part. As far as your Internet comment, it goes both ways and down the middle too. You can find about any slanted statistic you desire to prove your point. I got my information that is was not "just whites" in DC from various pictures of major newspapers around the country. They can't all fake the pictures. Yes, it was predominantly white, but so is the nation. Get over it. Do you want a "white holocaust" to even the playing field? "

Paul wrote on Sep 26, 2009 9:30 PM:

" Bobb wrote on Sep 26, 2009 1:46 PM:

" I got my information that is was not "just whites" in DC from various pictures of major newspapers around the country."

Spoken like a true republican. Or like palin who reads all the newspapers but can't remember the name of one when asked to name one. Or like beck, who goes on TV to make claims that there were 2 million people marching on Washington but can't remember what the name of the university that did the count for him.

Statements are made and then no one can offer specifics.

And I will leave it at that bobb. "

Paul wrote on Sep 26, 2009 10:08 PM:

" Bobb wrote on Sep 26, 2009 1:46 PM:

"Yes, it was predominantly white, but so is the nation. Get over it. Do you want a "white holocaust" to even the playing field? "

Hate to bring this bit of news to you, but in 2012-15, the "majority" that is spoken of here will lose the title of majority. People of color will become the majority. I think that "IS" the main reason for the "push" by "some" in America against President Obama.

He wasn't born here, he's an Arab (remember that one), he's doing too much, he needs to slow down. We need time to read the bill, etc...

I am cool with many things, many things.

"Bemeaning those who accomplish success will only make you more miserable. Jealousy is an never ending agony which will consume you." When did Dr. Phil come into the blog?

I am a Vietnam Vet, in higher education, as is my daughter, and my son is in the military. And you think I AM jealous.

Again, I'll leave it at that... "

Loanman wrote on Sep 27, 2009 9:03 AM:

" If a person buys a house south of the freeway in Hanford instead of north of the freeway, it's because they want to, it's not because they HAVE TOO! "

watcher wrote on Sep 27, 2009 2:23 PM:

" Sounds like their are a lot of bigots and bias people out their just by reading this article. It will never change. except it. The difference between the Dem. and Rep. is the mind set. You can't change the minds of people who are set in their ways. The hate groups is all the groups of people. The race card is pulled every time somebody disagrees with somebody. I have changed. Why should I be different than everybody else. If you disagree with me you are prejudice. So be it. Who gives a ---- . nothing is going to change until people wake up and respect and understand each other. Individual actions also reflect on the racial group of the individual. Perhaps people should start considering themselves Americans instead of Irish-Americans, African-Americans, Mexican-Americans Chinese Americans. You get the picture. Just Americans. "

Bobb wrote on Sep 27, 2009 2:57 PM:

" Paul; You are a Vietnam Vet; to me it was just another war we should have not gotten into. It was political BS. I do honor those who had to serve but the politicians who make these wars are not the ones doing the dying. Maybe you smoked too much weed there because the DR. Phil comment threw me off until I realized who he was. Maybe it is best you keep to your own as you have said in several blogs that you will not accept whites and don't care for then. Go ahead and raises your segregated family as this is a free county and you do not need to assimilate if you wish not to. Bigotry and racism comes in all colors. "

Bobb wrote on Sep 27, 2009 4:11 PM:

" Paul; concerning where I got my information or pictures, it was an API photo in the Sacramento Bee and the article that accompanied it stated that the security forces in DC estimated the crown at 1.9 million. API articles and pictures appear in many papers as not all can afford enough reporters for coverage of National events. As for your racism, I recall in another blog a few months ago you telling Ali, I believe, during a race and bigotry discussion that "We will never be close." I may be assuming wrong but it definitely seemed to me that you meant the various races will never be close. By the way, as I stated, I do not watch much TV so Dr. Phil is not on my watch list. "

ToldYouSo wrote on Sep 27, 2009 10:51 PM:

" I think you could be right about Obama not being born here. You are not the only one who thinks something funny is going on. "

NotHomeGrown wrote on Sep 28, 2009 8:58 AM:

" to Bobb, thanks for the reply to Paul. It really makes me wonder if he is a real person, or somebody just trying to create hate and discontent.

I love how his and only his sources are the truth and everyone else is false. Didn't know that both CNN and Fox were false, though will admit that Fox is more conservative. And if his statement about the pictures being from 5 years or more ago, I am sure that 99% of the people in the USA didn't even know who Obama was. "

snoop dawg wrote on Sep 28, 2009 12:38 PM:

" racism comes in only one color. The definition of racism (coined in 1936 during the jim crow era) is the systematic mistreatment of an entire group of people because of their perceived differences by the dominant group (society) in charge. Therefore, only whites can be racist. Why? Because they have the economic, social, political, and legal means to enforce such policies. I learned this in Sociology classes in college and also in Black history classes at Fresno State. Others can be prejudiced (and that is just as bad) but only whites can be racists, hence the term "reverse racism" that whites yell when they don't get picked for something...so who is throwing in the race card now? It's easy to accuse someone of throwing in the race card, but really, whites do it all the time so what is your point folks? "

manuel wrote on Sep 28, 2009 3:34 PM:

" NothomeGrown You say Paul is trying to create hate and discontent, you Bobb and the rest of you do that in all your blogs, you try to find fault in everything Obama does, now you jump on Paul for saying the truth, so as long as you preach hate, nothing will change "

Alihandero wrote on Sep 28, 2009 5:12 PM:

" WoW!

I guess accuracy and truth IS race-related "Paul."

Look back at the famous 'Million Man March' on Washington led by Louis Farrakhan in 1995:

"...within the first twenty-four hours following the March a conflict between March organizers and Park Service officials erupted over crowd size estimates.

Initially, the National Park Service issued an estimate of about 870,000 attendees; a number significantly lower than March organizers had hoped for.

After a heated exchange between leaders of the march and Park Services, researchers at Boston University estimated the crowd size to be 1,000,000 organizers’ estimate of over one million."


Source:
Nelson Jr., William E. (1998). "Black Church Politics and The Million Man March". in Best, Felton O.. Black Religious Leadership from the Slave Community to the Million Man March; flames of fire. Lewiston, New York: The Edwin Mellen Press. p. 243

- As quoted in Wikipedia, Deb, of course.

P.S.
I wonder if they did a head count of men only since women were specifically excluded or only black men and "Paul" points out that color is indeed a point of liberal progressive interest when holding up protest signs? "

Bobb wrote on Sep 28, 2009 5:59 PM:

" manuel; You are lumping a lot of person together and obviously not reading their opinions, I have never been against doing something about health care or health insurance. If you have read some of my blogs on health insurance you would know that I am all for a revamping of the present system. I am getting caught up with a Cobra and my premiums will soar for three years until I am 65. I cannot get an individual plan as insurance company's don't like their odds with an older person even though my business paid premiums for over 20 years on our group. Even if you are only on a cholesterol medication as a precautionary recommendation from your Dr. it is a red flag. "

Bobb wrote on Sep 28, 2009 6:07 PM:

" manuel; continued, Also consider those out of work who cannot pay for their premiums. I just don't think we should throw out the whole system. We should leave the private option but build on the present Medicare system by offering it to those under 65 for a monthly premium and co-pays just like the present insurance industry. The premiums would be at least one third, 33 1/3% cheaper as Medicare is a non-profit and operates on a 3% overhead. The private insurance company's run a 28% to 35% overhead as they have stockholders, CEO's, Multiple office buildings, agents, kickbacks,and on and on. Medicare Extended would be such a large bargaining agent that they could dictate drug prices even going offshore. > "

Bobb wrote on Sep 28, 2009 6:14 PM:

" fManuel; I would do a five year plan so as not to overload the new system and keep the private option open tho those who want it. The first year open up Medicare to those 55-65 with a premium reflecting the 33+% savings. If a person opts out they need to wait until the fifth year and open enrollment to get in. The second year open it to those 45-55, third year 35-45 fourth year 25-35 and the fifth year those 18-25. After those wishing to enrol in that last group have signed up then open enrolment can start for those who opted out and now want in. If a person opts out they must wait at least 1 year, maybe two to get back in.> "

Bobb wrote on Sep 28, 2009 6:21 PM:

" manuel; this would stop those who would just jump in when they get sick and back out to avoid premiums. Those who cannot afford medical care are already taken care of through Medical and various other channels. All government employees whether Federal, State or Local are now covered as well as teachers, fire, police, military, etc so we already have somewhat of a social medical system. By doing the five year plan it would not overload the addition of Medicare employees or computers to the system as it would if tit were done in one year. Think about it, this could work. Someone better with the numbers would need to crunch the figures to set the premium, but a system this large would have a lot of clout in bargaining with providers. "

Bobb wrote on Sep 28, 2009 7:08 PM:

" manuel; Just because someone does not agree with the message the messenger is carrying does not mean they are racist or bigoted. I do agree that the present system is out of control for the average American who does not have his/her health care subsidized either by a private employer or public employer. But the all or nothing approach should leave the private option open forever, open competition. No President know everything and needs staff and aides to tell him what is necessary. If that President has staff of Cabinet members with their own agenda he is fed false information on usually act on it as fact. Just as Obama said "no earmarks" he learned real quick that he wouldn't get any support on that. "

Bobb wrote on Sep 28, 2009 7:14 PM:

" manuel; if you don't play the game in either party you will not accomplish anything. About 10 years ago there was a young, Republican I believe, who captured everyone's attention as he was black and got elected in a Conservative market. He stated he was going to Washington and clean up the system and not be bought off. He was on several talk shows but never got on any committee and was shoved aside by the PLAYERS. After a year or so we never heard of him again. Some of you political junkies may remember him, but my old mind is at a loss to the name. That is the way it is with all legislation, follow the money. "

Skip wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:57 AM:

" There was just as much hate, in fact even more hate, when Bush was President. If you didn't see it, it's because you were part of it! "

snoop dawg wrote on Oct 2, 2009 8:36 AM:

" I think Bobb is talking about Alan Keyes. Conservatives brought him in and set up residency in Illinois to run against Obama. He lost by a mile. Don't hear much about him now. And, Black women did have their own march in the 90's. They led with a 12 point platform and indicated they wanted many things for their youth; better schools, supplies, and no more outdated books. They also wanted an explanation as to why the Reagan administration with Bush as head of the CIA, introduced Crack Cocaine into their neighborhoods and what they were going to do about it. Opinions are arguable facts are not. A little research or education wouldn't hurt here on these blogs, but I must admit, some very interesting things come out of it. For sure we need to educate the masses about ethnic divisions in this country as well as the true history involving non whites or anyone else perceived as different. "

Alihandero wrote on Oct 2, 2009 3:57 PM:

" So "snoop dawg," since you apparently believe the white man is trying to damage the black population with that Regan/Bush crack in the 'hood conspiracy theory, I guess you agree 100% with "Paul" when he said "we will never be close?" "

ToldYouSo wrote on Oct 3, 2009 6:19 PM:

" Snoop do you know that black women have abortions at a much higher rate than white women and your beloved "black" President supports and encourages this to continue, and you think the white race is out to get you?? "




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